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Admin Steve
08-19-2006, 07:35 AM
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NGATA HAS QUIET DEBUT ~ August 19, 2006
Photo by Sabina Moran
By Aaron Wilson
( awilson@profootball24x7.com )

OWINGS MILLS -- The earth didn’t shake as big Haloti Ngata didn’t record a tackle, collapse the pocket or make much noise in his NFL debut. Overall, though, the Baltimore Ravens’ heavyweight rookie defensive tackle felt encouraged about how he fared Thursday night in a 20-10 victory over the Philadelphia Eagles.

Sidelined the previous week with a minor knee sprain, the 6-foot-4, 340-pound first-round draft pick had a quiet evening as he grappled with the Eagles’ veteran offensive line. He wasn't a major factor against the run or pass.

“The game felt fast,” said Ngata, the 12th overall pick from Oregon. “The blockers were firing off the line fast. They were doing a quick offense and playing very fast. I had to kind of think about it when I need to be reacting.

“It's an adjustment from college football. I’m anxious to see the film so I can see how I really did. I’m glad to have that game under my belt.”

Defensive coordinator Rex Ryan was hoping to see a few one-on-one encounters between Ngata and Pro Bowl alternate offensive guard Shawn Andrews, but that never really materialized. “We never went head-to-head much, so it was a lot of me trying to go around him and shoot the gap,” Ngata said. “He’s a good player, so it was a nice test for me. My knee felt fine and I’m sure I’ll get better and better every week.”

EMERGING THREAT: It’s only the preseason, but Musa Smith has overshadowed veteran runners Jamal Lewis and Mike Anderson in a way that goes beyond his inspiring comeback story from a gruesome broken leg two years ago. Smith is running with outstanding body lean and power, flashing a bit of breakaway speed in the third quarter.

His 43-yard touchdown burst in the third quarter propelled him to a 55-yard outing on four carries. He also demonstrated his agility when he hurdled offensive tackle Adam Terry on a 36-yard screen pass that nearly went for a score.

A week ago, Smith led the Ravens in rushing with 61 yards on four carries and receptions with four. He has registered three of the Ravens’ four longest plays this month. “I'm just really trying to soak in every moment that I have since I've been given a second chance," Smith said. "When I was on the operating table, and I was told there was a 50-50 chance I could come back, I knew I had to set my mind on coming back. It's been a long road and a lot of hard work, but it’s definitely paying off. The leg feels really good right now."

Drafted in the third round out of Georgia in 2003, the Ravens initially tabbed Smith as a future replacement for Lewis. However, his career was nearly ended in 2004 on Dallas Cowboys safety Roy Williams’ horse-collar tackle that caused a compound fracture of his tibia. Smith ended each of the past two seasons on injured reserve.

Lewis is entrenched as the starter and Anderson figures to be the primary backup, but Smith is projected to be the third-down back in addition to his special-teams responsibilities. "He's practicing with such joy," Ravens coach Billick said. "He's loving being out there, and he's playing the same way. It's great to see him having the success he deserves."

UNBOWED: One week after a stumbling, bumbling performance that appeared to confirm why he was benched in favor of Steve McNair, backup quarterback Kyle Boller redeemed himself. Not only did he endure being sacked five times because of the shortcomings of the reserve offensive line, but Boller appeared much more relaxed and fundamentally sound. “Kyle’s got a lot of things going on with the group he’s with,” Billick said. “He did some great things.”

The results were a 4-for-7 night for 115 yards and a 141.4 passer rating as Boller connected on a 42-yard completion to Devard Darling. He also delivered a 27-yard touchdown strike to Darling.

“I prepare like I’m the starter,” Boller said. “I have to be ready because you never know when you’re going to have to go in. That doesn’t change for me in the preseason.”

QUICK HITS: McNair, who wasn’t sacked last week, was sacked twice. One occurred when McNair got tangled up with center Mike Flynn and fell to the ground. The other happened when Eagles defensive end Jevon Kearse ran past right tackle Tony Pashos to force McNair to fumble. Pashos was also flagged for holding Kearse, and left tackle Adam Terry was penalized for a false start. “There are going to be growing pains,” offensive guard Edwin Mulitalo said. “It’s part of us getting used to Steve and him getting used to us." ... Rookie wide receiver Demetrius Williams threw a key block on Smith’s screen pass. … Defensive tackle Dwan Edwards led Baltimore with a game-high six tackles. … Running back Mike Anderson was limited because of a sprained foot that isn’t regarded as serious. … Rookie punter Sam Koch averaged 39.8 yards on four punts as veteran Leo Araguz punted once for 42 yards.

PurpleRulz
08-19-2006, 02:09 PM
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Mobtown
08-20-2006, 08:51 AM
“The game felt fast,” said Ngata, the 12th overall pick from Oregon. “The blockers were firing off the line fast. They were doing a quick offense and playing very fast. I had to kind of think about it when I need to be reacting.

“It's an adjustment from college football. I’m anxious to see the film so I can see how I really did. I’m glad to have that game under my belt.”


This is why getting into camp early is an absolute MUST for a rookie lineman. It will be several games (at least) before things slow down for him. Not to mention the conditioning factor. Can he even play 4 quaters of football at this point?

RavensDomination
08-20-2006, 09:37 AM
We are deep enough at DT so it shouldn't be an issue regarding his conditioning.

jonboy79
08-20-2006, 12:22 PM
We are deep enough at DT so it shouldn't be an issue regarding his conditioning.

Agreed, it looks as if up to 5 players will see time on a daily basis at DT plus the fact that AD will slide in on third and long. He should only need to play 30 or so snaps a game.

ravensfan86
08-21-2006, 10:10 AM
People make reference to AD sliding inside on situational plays. I dont see that happening as much this season. Trevor Pryce makes that less of a reality. Plus AD has so many other assignments on defense and can be used better in space or off the edge. I would think Dan Cody comes in and plays as a DE. Pryce slides down to DT and AD either is a edge rush end or outside LB. Or you may see Franklin, Gregg and Pryce on the line and 4 LB's or 3 LB's and a safety.

Losac
08-21-2006, 10:51 AM
Nice article, Aaron. The remarks about Boller pretty much sum up what has been so frustrating about him. He has no consistency at all. At times, he'll look amazing and will show flashes of why he was such a high draft pick, and then he'll follow it up with a "stumbling and bumbling" performance. I just hope he can learn as much as he can from McNair while he's here.

funkmd
08-21-2006, 10:51 AM
We'll work out the kinks by TB, I'm not too worried

Fanman
08-21-2006, 11:02 AM
I would expect Ngata to start vs TB so I would also expect to hear his name a few times during the next 2 preseason games. So far I really haven't seen anybody run on this D in preseason and that's good.

I would expect to see a better pass rush the next 2 games.

FM

ravensfan86
08-21-2006, 02:03 PM
Just so we are straight. I recall the following question:

Is the oline that bad or is Ngata that good? As I remember, he was blowing up plays inthe backfield against the 1st string oline in TC. I think I have my answer after the Eagels game how about you?

RavenScallywag
08-21-2006, 02:09 PM
that doesn't mean Ngata's bad really...He was supposed to be going against Shawn Andrews, who coaches referred to as one of the best OL in the league.

Our OL admittedly is still getting the hang of it. I'm sure once he adjusts to new OLs, Ngata will continue his success.

GreenWave52
08-21-2006, 02:28 PM
Just so we are straight. I recall the following question:

Is the oline that bad or is Ngata that good? As I remember, he was blowing up plays inthe backfield against the 1st string oline in TC. I think I have my answer after the Eagels game how about you?
I certainly don't. Ngata is still not 100% (and he may never be this year) and it was his first game action. I'm not judging the performance of a rookie off of his first game. If I did that than PJ Daniels would average 2 fumbles a game for his career.

Like WR, DT is a position that takes a couple of years to master. That is why you rarely see any DTs even mentioned for rookie of the year. If Ngata still looks like he did against the Eagles 2 years from now, then I would be really concerned.

Losac
08-21-2006, 02:50 PM
I certainly don't. Ngata is still not 100% (and he may never be this year)
What are you basing this on? He was quoted as saying the knee didn't bother him at all. People are blowing this injury up to be more than it was.

GreenWave52
08-21-2006, 02:59 PM
What are you basing this on? He was quoted as saying the knee didn't bother him at all. People are blowing this injury up to be more than it was.
I guess its more of a hunch than a fact, and I should of presented it as such. I was just combining the reports that Ngata looked not nearly as good in camp when returning from his injury with the fact that football players often don't disclose when they are injured (but not so injured they can't play).

I saw Ngata against the Redskins in person and he didn't look like the same player against the Eagles. Both teams have good lines but what was missing was Ngata's quickness. My conclusion is that he knee is still nagging him.

jonboy79
08-21-2006, 05:21 PM
People make reference to AD sliding inside on situational plays. I dont see that happening as much this season. Trevor Pryce makes that less of a reality.

You are right, that is what I meant, when Pryce slides inside, not AD. My point being that I don't expect Ngata to play many snaps.

ravensfan86
08-22-2006, 08:29 AM
Let me clarify. I think our oline is not very good, although I have been impressed so far with Mule and Vincent on the zone blocking. Maybe Chris Foerester isn't the village idiot I think he is. I also think Clarence Brooks brought a lot of insight to Ngata as a rookie. He doesn't have very good technique and will be somewhat of a project. (much better talent then Kemo, but still needs work on shedding blocks and not getting stood up and carrying his pads too high). Those are all correctable and teachable issues. Ngata got away with poor technique in college because of his sheer athleticism. The NFL level presents a new challege for him and he probably wont dominate like he did in college. That is ok for this season since all we really need from him is holding the LOS and taking on a double team at times. Taking on the double team may not happen since you have to earn the double team. Overall I think we will see flashes of what he can potentially do on every snap he is in throughout the season. I agree that the knee may be bothering him more then he is leading on and affecting his play. From what I recall from the scrimmage and camp, he was in the backfield disrupting plays regularly. After the injury, he has been quite.

I still think Ngata will be a force in this league. We just need to be patient and wait for Clarence Brooks to teach him the finer points of DT.

I am also a little concerned about Trevor Pryce. He has yet to make a play. Maybe he is holding back for the regular season.

Sports Steve
08-23-2006, 12:48 PM
The NFL game is a lot faster then the college level. Once Ngata adapts to the NFL level of the game he'll be fine. The Ravens made a smart choice drafting him. As the year goes on all of us will see that he will be just fine. Now we have someone big and young in the middle. Things will get better.


Ngata will put the :hammer: down this year.



:jester: :jester: :jester: :thumbup:

Fanman
08-23-2006, 03:16 PM
I agree we can expect Ngata to be a factor...but what are realistic goals? Should we hope he is someday on the level of a Tony Siragusa or Sam Adams...or better?

FM