GAME THREAD - Ravens/Bengals II

[Sephy]

OK, so its 7 hours from game time. Who cares?? I'll be back here running PBP for all you non NFL Network non-local saps.

Let's just win the AFC North!

[Mista T]

Hey Sephy: I've never participated in one of your game threads because there's no way that I could be calm enough during a Ravens TV game to sit at a computer to type. Nonetheless, I thought I'd drop in prior to the game to thank you for running these game threads over the years. I know that far-flung Ravens fans without access to Ravens on TV or radio rely on your threads to keep them informed.

[Sephy]

I enjoy it. It lets me vent in a semi-non-harmless way ;)

[Admin Steve]

Let's go Ravens. Couldn't get out to Della's tonight (don't ask) so I will be looking in.

I'll slap up a link to this thead in the main forum.

[darb72]

I'd have been here the past three weeks, but the Ravens games have been on local TV (first time in history that has happened) and I've had to put my TV in the exercise room.

[WxKevin]

I find it difficult as well to get back here during the game. It is too hectic.

I do think it is great though that you do this for the fans who cannot see the game!

[Sephy]

TV right next to the computer or laptop next to the big screen wirelessly.

Its easy!

[ladyraven127]

Lock 'n load . . . . let's do it!!! :crazy:

[Sephy]

10 minutes, lets roll!!!!

[Sephy]

Ravens come out to boos. Shocking!

[Sephy]

Bengals get the ball first.

[Sephy]

Return to the 31. NFLN fixed their on screen graphics.

[Sephy]

1st, Palmer gets a lot of time, hits a wide open Johnson for 15 and a first.

[darb72]

Come on Ravens

[Sephy]

1st from the 47, audible to the blitz, give to Rudi, upended by Ray for a gain of 1.
2nd and 9, offset I, blitz on, not very good, incomplete for Henry, thrown low but catchable
3rd, Bengals in hurry up, offset I, big blitz on Palmer, just gets it off as smacked by Pryce, falls too short for the WR.

Punt is a touchback.

[darb72]

Ok, time for McNair to do his thing.

Give him some time line.

[Sephy]

I love NFLN's music. The graphics are the same after the opening kickoff, unfortunately.

[Sephy]

1st from the 20, I form, Jamal gets a huge hole, nice vision, gain of FIFTEEN!

[RavensInBrazil]

Jamal in tha house!

[darb72]

Or just hand the ball to Jamal and watch him run, at least the first time.

Now Jamal, we need you to actually hit the holes when they're there.

[darb72]

So it's 3rd and 12 all of a sudden.

I thought we got rid of that with Fassell.

Along with the whole "throwing it well short of the first down" thing.

[Sephy]

That right side sure looked good there.
1st from the 35, I form, 2 WR left, another give, but slow developing, and no gain.
2nd and 10, I form again, penalty for delay. Damn.
2nd and 15, I form, Jamal for 2. That's pretty predictable there, Brian.
3rd and 12, generous spot, shotgun, quick hit to D-Will, gain of about 5. Punt time. That was pretty give up playcalling there.

[Sephy]

1st from the 21, PA, deep and incomplete for CJ. Reed on the coverage.
2nd, Rudi for no gain, stopped by Reed, lucky if he got one.
3rd and 10, quick pass to Housh, comes up inches short. If Rolle could tackle, that's 2-3 short.

Marvin is challenging.

[darb72]

I don't think he made it.

That's just a guess based on the first officials call though.

[Sephy]

Ruling stands!

[Sephy]

BJ doesn't call for the fair catch, and is smacked at the 25.

[darb72]

Good coverage by the Bengals.

That really wasn't the time for B.J. to forget how to call for a fair catch.

[Sephy]

1st from the 25, PA, complete to Heap, gain of 15. Nice.

[darb72]

Haven't we discussed, a lot, how badly the stretch play sucks with Jamal?

[Sephy]

1st from the 41, try to run slow with Jamal, goes right and its a loss of 2.
2nd and 12, TO as the play develops too slow.

[Sephy]

Yes, the stretch is useless with a back who doesn't have a quick burst.

[darb72]

Nice jiggly cam there.

[Sephy]

2nd and 12, straight dropback, complete to Mason for 4ish.
3rd and 7, I form, PA, guys open but looks like there was some miscommunication as it goes behind Mason.

Shanked punt, but its only to the Bengals 17.

[darb72]

Heck of a catch by Housh....whatever.

[Sephy]

1st from the 17, Rudi for 2-3.
2nd and 8, pass to Housh, blitz picked up VERY well, gain of 8 and first.

[Sephy]

1st from the 27, give to FB Johnson, gain of 2-3.
2nd and 7, offset I, delayed handoff to Rudi, lucky Ngata misses a tackle in the backfield, gain of 3.
3rd and 4, complete to Housh for 5 and a first.

Pressure isn't getting there quick enough.

[darb72]

Come on defense. Stop them here.

[darb72]

I think it's time to stop blitzing as much. Palmer is running 3-5 step drops. Let's flood the short zone and force some picks.

[Sephy]

1st from the 39, Palmer nailed as he throws, but complete to Rudi on the sideline for a moderate gain.
2nd and 3, I form, handoff to the upback for 1, 2 at most.
3rd and 1, Johnson covered by Rolle. A comeback route beats him again, shocking.

[Sephy]

1st from the Ravens 41. complete to Johnson for 11.

HELLO, THE SHORT PASS IS KILLING YOU.

[Sephy]

1st from the 30, complete to Johnson inside the 10. No pressure, even on a five step drop.

[darb72]

Thank goodness.

[Sephy]

1st and goal from the 6, pump fake, rolls right, to the endzone, caught by CJ, but he is flagged for OPI.
1st and goal from the 16, offset I, thrown out of the back of the endzone. Contact, but it was uncatchable.
2nd, pressure, complete to Rudi, inside the 10.
3rd and goal from the 6, end of the first quarter.

[darb72]

End of the half and I think we're alone Seph.

[Sephy]

3rd and goal from the 6, Carson pressured, rolls right, incomplete for Watson.

FG is good, 3-0 Bengals.

[crowdog89]

God awful bradcasting by Gumbel and Collinsworth....

[Sephy]

Sams to the 18.

[Sephy]

Personal foul on Haley. Great.

[Raveninwoodlawn]

We have got to at least get out of the shadow of our own goal post.

[Art-Florida]

I'm here too. So far this sux!

[Sephy]

1st from the 9, I form, PA, complete to Mughelli for 4.
2nd and 6, PA, complete to Clayton for 6. Should be a first. Measurement.
First!

[BertJonesMyHero]

You are not alone.Great job fellas.This is my only game source tonight.

[darb72]

Where the heck have you guys been?

[RavensInBrazil]

*sigh* Jamal 4 carries for 1 yard since busting up that big first one

[darb72]

DO NOT EVER GIVE THE BALL TO JAMAL ON SHORT YARDAGE!!!

He is totally incapable of moving the pile. He never has been able to do it and he never will be able to.

[Sephy]

1st from the 19, Jamal for 1. Another slow developing play,
2nd and 9, complete to Mason for about 8.
3rd and 1, Jamal decides to not follow his block, and loses a yard.
GREAT WORK.

Ratliff smacked at the 31.

[Art-Florida]

DO NOT EVER GIVE THE BALL TO JAMAL ON SHORT YARDAGE!!!

He is totally incapable of moving the pile. He never has been able to do it and he never will be able to.

With Mike Anderson and Musa Smith handy, WHY does BB keep relying on ballerina Jamal?

[Sephy]

1st, I form, toss left, gain of 2.
2nd and 7, PA, complete to Housh at the sideline, gain of 20. Completely wide open, no pressure.

[Sephy]

1st from the 48, CJ makes an unbelievable catch for 11. Uncanny.

[Raveninwoodlawn]

Our CB's are just giving up those 10-15 yard out patterns.

[darb72]

With Mike Anderson and Musa Smith handy, WHY does BB keep relying on ballerina Jamal?

Because he's loyal to a fault.

We'll never see Jamal out of there unless he's hurt.

[Sephy]

1st from the 41, false start.
1st and 15, complete to Housh for 7-8.
2nd and 6, Rudi for a loss of 1, maybe no gain.
3rd and 6, no pressure WHATSOEVER, complete to Housh for a first.

Seriously pressure PALMER

[Sephy]

Ravens rushing only 4, that is NOT GOING TO WORK.
1st from the 27, complete to CJ for 7.
2nd and 3, quick hit to CJ, Rolle was 10 yards off of him, gain of 6-7 and a first.

[RavensInBrazil]

All I'm getting here is "C. Palmer pass short middle"

[Raveninwoodlawn]

Bengals are just playing pitch and catch.

We are trying to pressure Palmer, but thier line and backs are just doing a magnificant job of picking up the blitzes.

[Sephy]

1st from the 13, give to Rudi for 6.
2nd and 6, PA, pass slightly behind FB Johnson, drops it.
3rd and 6, for Kelly in the endzone, incomplete. Couldn't get his feet in.

FG is good, 6-0.

[darb72]

He's taking short drops and the rush just doesn't have time to get there. It's time to call of the dogs and defend the short stuff.

[Sephy]

While it was masked last week, Rolle needs to be replaced ASAP.
We need to blitz to get pressure, and they've stopped trying because he is getting abused on the short patterns and comebacks.

[ladyraven127]

Okay, we're down six . . . . . I missed almost the first half.

Lovely . . . Sams is down :nerd:

[Sephy]

Sams tripped at the 26, ball comes out but they call him down.

Sams is hurt. He WAS down though.

[darb72]

Dang it B.J.

Break one and hold on to the ball.

[ladyraven127]

So, from reading the thread am I to understand that Jamal is dancing again?

I knew this game was going to be a pain in the ass . . . :mad:

[Sephy]

Sams has a broken leg. Air cast is on. Uh, fuck.

[Raveninwoodlawn]

OUCH!

I'm not a doctor, but BJ is done for the year with a broken leg/ankle.

[darb72]

I have an uncomfortable feeling that B.J. just broke something. Hopefully he just sprained it though.

[darb72]

So, from reading the thread am I to understand that Jamal is dancing again?

I knew this game was going to be a pain in the ass . . . :mad:

Yes, yes he is.

The first carry he went for about 15 yards and has managed to do nothing since then. He doesn't have 20 yards yet I don't believe.

[Sephy]

Who returns kicks now??
1st from the 26, Jamal gets 1. He's back.
2nd and 9, PA, complete to Mason at the 40 and a first.

[Sephy]

1st from the 40, Jamal actually hits a hole, and gets 14!

[psuasskicker]

Give the Bengals credit guys. This isn't Jamal dancing around. Our OL is getting NO push at all on running plays.

That last run for a loss should have had a face-mask called.

- C -

[darb72]

Anybody else seeing shades of our old offense?

[ladyraven127]

This is pathetic to watch. What the hell has happened to our offense :thumbdown:

[Sephy]

1st, Jamal swarmed in the backfield for a 2-3 yard loss.
2nd and 12, straight drop back, rolling right and the pass looked complete to Mason, but they say its incomplete.
2 minute warning.

[psuasskicker]

Is it just me or is this game moving lightning fast?

- C -

[ladyraven127]

Two minute warning . . . . cripes . . . . . half time adjustments are over-rated :crazy:

[RavensInBrazil]

The game is going fast, very few incomplete passes

[psuasskicker]

LR we've been one of the best half-time adjusting teams this season so far. Witness the Titans and the Falcons game for proof.

- C -

PS - Nice run by Stevie.

[Sephy]

3rd and 12, McNair has a HUGE lane, and scrambles inside the 30!!!

[darb72]

That will work.

Good job Steve.

[Sephy]

1st from the 31, Jamal for 3-4.

TO Ravens.

[darb72]

Hand off on first.
Now we'll hand off again.
Then we'll throw or have Steve run it.

I miss the Billick run offense.

[ladyraven127]

I know, I know . . . . I'm just doing my freakin' out thing.

Nice run Steve . . . . why does everyone look like they're moving in slow motion? :nerd:

[Sephy]

2nd and 7, 1:14 left, no one open, tons of time, has to dump to Musa and gets 3.
3rd and 4, 45s left, has to use a TO.
UGH.

[ladyraven127]

Christ almighty . . . I think I need to refresh my drink :alien:

[psuasskicker]

Now THAT was shades of our old offense...

- C -

[Sephy]

3rd and 4, 45s left, complete to D-Will for 5 and a first.

Spike with 29s.

[psuasskicker]

We need 7 here...not 3. We go into half-time with a lead after getting killed all first half, it's HUGE>

- C -

[psuasskicker]

That was dumb.

Gumble and Collinsworth are HORRIBLE.

- C -

[Sephy]

2nd and 10, 28s left actually, from the 20, complete to Heap for 8-9.
3rd and 1, McNair just spikes it. 12s left. Take a shot!

Bengals ice Stover, LOL.

[darb72]

I like Collisnworth as an analyst, but he sucks as an announcer.

[ladyraven127]

Oh my God :nerd:

[darb72]

You've got to be kidding me.

[Sephy]

Stover's second misses. Wow. Guess the ice works. Chip shot, unbelievable.

[Sephy]

Bengals take a knee. 6-0.

Un fucking believable.

[RavensInBrazil]

Didn't Stover have some monster streak from inside under 30 yards?

[crowdog89]

Wasn't Stovers fault...bad snap...it was low..Koch had to pick it up off the turf.

[psuasskicker]

Well, here's an encouraging thought. The only difference between this first half and the Titans first half is we're down 6, not 19...

Any other thought after that horrible first half, not so encouraging...

- C -

[darb72]

I'll be back soon.

[ladyraven127]

I hate pussy coaches that call a time out right when the other team is kicking a field goal. It may work . . . . but I still think they are fucking wimps.

Pardon my language . . . I'm going to refresh my drink :alien:

[crowdog89]

Let's hope we make some really good halftime adjustments all around....plus we have to figure out who will run kicks and punts back as well...:bag:

[Art-Florida]

it is essential that we get more pressure on Palmer. Thair makeshift O line is making us look silly. In addition, McNair's passes are looking a tad wobbly. Our guys are pass blocking OK, but it's not getting done as far as pass yardage.

[WxKevin]

OK everybody, keep up the optimism. This game is not over by a long shot!

To answer an earlier question, I believe Clayton is the backup for KO and PR. Looks like the Cory Ross era starts next week.

[Ravens0587]

Sams should get his original trial date back.

This team is going to give me blood pressure/heart problems at the ripe age of 19.

Damn, no matter what year it is and how good/bad we are doing, I expect to win every single game. When we don't it pisses me off. Does anybody else feel like this?

[Ravens0587]

O and I say Musa returns Kicks, not sure who will do punts, but if they dont get their shit together I don't think we will have to worry about PR, only KR

[Sephy]

Clayton?
Ross is inactive, right?

[AZRAVEN]

Damn this is fugly!! I knew it was going to be trouble, I hate these damn middle of the week games. It looks like we left it all on the field against the Squealers. Damn!!

[Sephy]

Musa to the 31.

[Sephy]

1st, PA, Joseph jumps the route for Clayton and drops it. Very lucky.
2nd, pass thrown way outside of Heap. Adjustments?
3rd, complete to Musa for 5. Great.

Musa was hurt, but gets up and runs off.

Booming punt to the 22-23.

[RavensInBrazil]

Thank goodness Koch is having a great day

[Sephy]

1st, false start after a late audible.
1st and 15, give to Rudi, too slow, gain of 1-2.
2nd and 14, nice pressure up the middle on the 3rd string center, and Rolle defends the pass inteded for Housh!
3rd, shovel pass, gets 20. Unfucking believable.

[Sephy]

1st from the 40, Rudi for 5.
2nd and 5, FB give, down to the Ravens 40. Ravens better pick it the fuck up.

[ExiledRaven]

this is so painful...we're laying a big steaming turd and people are getting hurt.

[Sephy]

1st, flea flicker, Housh wide open, touchdown.

Game over. Unless something changes FAST.

[RavenScallywag]

aggh. where is our defense tonight????

[Sephy]

13-0.

Fix it, NOW.

[ExiledRaven]

So let's see when Billick finally realizes that Jamal can't run against this front and start doing the right plays?

Well, of course McNair has to complete passes for that....this is just killing me.

We'll see what happens this next drive. Lots of time still

[Sephy]

Ivy past the 40 on the return, but there are flags.

[RavensInBrazil]

We need a big turnover, or some other big change of momentum, FAST

[Sephy]

1st from the 15, Chester false starts.
1st and 15 from the 10, PA, complete to Mughelli for 8.
2nd and 7, Brown false starts.
2nd and 12, draw to Jamal, gets about that 5.
3rd and 7, and Joseph drops another pick. McNair is WAY underthrowing those comebacks.

Ratliff loses yards, downed at the 30.

[ExiledRaven]

we're sure playing well when ....well...lots of people are watching.

This is embarrassing.

[StingerNLG]

This game has so far been absolutely shite. That's now the second almost-pick McNair has thrown. The playcalling has been horrible, with nothing more than short routes. Jamal had 2, maybe 3 good run so far. The defense is not even close to the way they were.

I knew this Pittsburgh on Sunday, Bengals away on Thursday was going to hurt us. And the NFL knew it too.

[Sephy]

1st, pass complete to Housh, and he gets NAILED by Franklin at the end of the play.
2nd and 2, quick hit to CJ, gain of 3. Rolle can't cover him in short or long yardage.

[ExiledRaven]

How to beat the ravens

1: run the short passing game
2: every now and again run a double move and burn the not C-mac corner
3: stack the box on Jamal and play tight zone and the offense will self-destruct

[Sephy]

1st, Palmer dances around and is put down at the line.
2nd and 10, Rudi for 3.
3rd and 7, Palmer creamed as he throws, play is 1 yard short of the first, Housh on the catch.

Ivy to return the punt.

Touchback.

[Art-Florida]

What's wrong with NcNair? He looks terrible.

[Sephy]

1st, Jamal for 5.5.
2nd and 4, McNair throws as he's being sacked, incomplete.
3rd and 4, McNair severely underthrows Mason and gets smacked.

Ratliff to the Ravens 34. Allow a score here, and its done.

[Ravens0587]

I think this game is over at 13-0 we still have a chance, but If they even get a fg I don't see it

[Bez513]

This hurts to watch. We don't look like the team from Sunday. Missed tackles, dumb penalties.

[Sephy]

1st from the 31, pass batted down by Scott.
2nd, Rudi for 3-ish.
3rd and 7, Palmer tripped and sacked, tons of pressure.

Delay, they will punt.

Downed at the 8.

[AZRAVEN]

Wonder how much our patty cake practices this week are contributing to this poor showing. There doesn't seem to be any intensity on either side of the ball. I guess it was just to early in the season for us to try to wrap things up. Damn, this is painful to watch.

[Sephy]

1st, pass for Clayton incomplete after the hit.
2nd, Jamal for almost 8.
3rd and 2, complete swinging to Jamal, gain of 10+, first down.

[Sephy]

1st from the 27, complete to Mughelli for 7-8.
2nd and 2, give to Mughelli for 1.
3rd and 1, PA, McNair daftly eludes a sack, gets 2-3 and slides.

Offsides on D, and the Ravens take that instead.

[Sephy]

1st from the 41, Jamal somehow breaks free, gets 7-8.

End of the third.

Need a McNair-esque 4th to win this.

[Sephy]

2nd and 2, McNair has a ton of time, and can't find ANYONE open. They call grounding super late.
3rd and 12, McNair throws an absolutely terrible ball and Joseph drops a pick again. I guess Williams was trying to go deep but McNair wanted the slant.

Touchback.

[AZRAVEN]

I don't think it's going to happen tonight, he looks like he is calmly throwing the damn game away. Freaking intentinal grounding. The Bengals are having a good laugh at this performance.

[Bez513]

unless the D does anything this game is over

[Sephy]

1st from the 20, Rudi for 1.
2nd and 9, pass for Henry dropped.
3rd, Palmer getting sacked by Pryce and Palmer gets it away. Why THAT isn't grounding, I don't know.

Ivy to the 34.

[Beerracuda]

If they called that INCOMPLETE, then why the fuck was the clock still running?????????

[Art-Florida]

The (limited) good news is: The O' line is doing ok, other than those 2 back to back offsides penalties by the young guns at guard.

[Sephy]

1st, quick hit to Clayton for 4-5.
2nd and 6, Jamal for MAYBE 1.
3rd and 5, Brown is hurt.

Ndukwe is in at G.

[Sephy]

3rd and 5, complete to Mason for 10 and a first.

[Sephy]

1st from the 49, quick in to Mason, gain of 5.
2nd and 5, Jamal for 2 if he's lucky.
3rd and 4, overthrown for Heap.
Going for it.
4th and 4, complete for Mason all the way down to the 33! Wow!

[Sephy]

Hell of a play by Mason.
1st from the 33, dump to Jamal who eludes a tackle and gets inside the 20!

[Sephy]

1st from the 18, TO Bengals.

[Sephy]

1st from the 18, dump to Mughelli for 8.
Flag. Holding on Flynn, awesome.
1st and 20, Jamal for 3-4. Why? Wasted down.
2nd and 17, dump to Clayton, to the 19. Original LOS almost.
3rd and 11, McNair gets 8 and slides. Gotta get the first, Steve.

TO Ravens. Can't slide there!

[Art-Florida]

Demetrius is ripe for a big play. Couldn't come at a better time.

[Sephy]

4th and 3, slant for Clayton, incomplete. James bats it down.

McNair may have lost us his first game singlehandedly.

[Art-Florida]

Somewhere, Dandy Don' has started singing, "Turn out the lights..."

[Sephy]

1st, Rudi for 3-4.
2nd and 6, Rudi for 2-ish.
3rd and 4, WR screen to Housh, but he loses 3.
Watson hurt.

[Sephy]

Ivy fumbles the punt, Kilmer picks it up and runs it in. Turn out the lights.

Now they're calling it something and say he can't return it

Its over.

[Ravens0587]

Fuck I Saw That Fumble Coming From A Mile Away

[Art-Florida]

LR is screaming, kicking the cat, and mixing doubles. :)

[Art-Florida]

Cory Ross finally gets activated next game.

[darb72]

Ok, I'm back and this game sucks.

[Ravens0587]

Ad Is Hurt

[darb72]

Throw that ball out of bounds McNair.

[Ravens0587]

Did Todd Heap piss in McNAirs cereal this morning? 3-4 catches is pitiful

[darb72]

Ok, somebody tell me what's going on.

[darb72]

I just lost the dang signal....

Have we won yet?

[Sephy]

James falls down, TD Mason.

Onside kick time!

[darb72]

There wasn't a flag on that?

Good for us.

[Sephy]

TO Bengals.

[darb72]

So who do blame for this crap fest?

I vote for the entire offense.

[Sephy]

Bengals recover.

[Sephy]

McNair plays terribly, D-Will plays bad, Sams is hurt, poor playcalling.

I vote for everyone too.

[darb72]

Now let's be sure to have another week of; Jamal sucks, the offensive line sucks, the receivers suck and Billick sucks....

I haven't been to the main page yet, but I'm willing to bet there are already some Negative Netties.