Ravens vs Vikings!

[RavenScallywag]

Damn, they don't carry this game in Hanover, PA. I'll have to check here for updates...

[RavenFanatic2k6]

http://www.warpradio.com/player/embed.asp?id=11228

Vikings radio broadcast (thanks to JDub on the Scout board)

Apparently we've been pretty ugly thus far.

[RavenScallywag]

yes, I've been monitoring the NFL.com GameCast...

our defense needs to wake up, BIG TIME!

[RavenFanatic2k6]

We look just like we did last year on the road. Not good.

[RavenFanatic2k6]

Pathetic on both sides. 2 TOs used in the first Q offensively. Ogden is getting violated big time.

[Raveninwoodlawn]

Defense has been a joke...short passes and tackling in the open field have left a lot to be desired.

The offense...well, I don't think McNair has thrown a pass further than 5 yards downfield and the run ahs been getting bottled up.

[JonG316]

Oline is playing like last year, Pashos and right side are getting owned.

[RavenFanatic2k6]

Nice to see we are still the same old Ravens on the road....sigh...

[Raveninwoodlawn]

The offense is looking progressively worse each game.

[Art-Florida]

Where's Sephy? We need a real game thread. (NFL,com Gametime is...challenged.)

[Sephy]

I'm here. A bit confused on the deal, here. I can only run a game thread on one board.

[RavenFanatic2k6]

Pashos looks horrible. This is not good.

[Sephy]

Pashos is as sad a sack as they get. I don't think he's blocked his man once.

[Drkraven]

McBoller anyone?

[StingerNLG]

I'm here. A bit confused on the deal, here. I can only run a game thread on one board.

Run it on this one!!! :)

Am I the only one watching this thinking this is the same old Ravens?

[Sephy]

There are certainly some similarities.
-Same crap OL play.
-Same uninventive playcalling (temporary pass for it being preseason)
-Overly complex defensive scheme that effectively reduces the individual talent of the players.
-Poor scheming for quick passes and TEs.

McNair made one bad decision. I won't kill him too much. It was a really, really bad one, but the QB of time past made way more than that in a half.

[Ravenshon]

There are certainly some similarities.
-Same crap OL play.
-Same uninventive playcalling (temporary pass for it being preseason)
-Overly complex defensive scheme that effectively reduces the individual talent of the players.
-Poor scheming for quick passes and TEs.

McNair made one bad decision. I won't kill him too much. It was a really, really bad one, but the QB of time past made way more than that in a half.


Good point!

[Sephy]

BTW, I have no problems running the game threads over here, but I'd like to wait until they get more members over here. Too slow right now. I need exposure baby, exposure!

[RavenFanatic2k6]

Billick needs to find out what it is that makes the OL play so bad on the road. They can play reasonably well at home, as they did the past two weeks, but it all falls apart on the road.

And I think Rex Ryan needs to get back to basics. Find a way to defend the TE. Forget his complex playbook until we can execute simple schemes.

[Art-Florida]

Poor Sephy, he's torn. LOL

Run it on this one, Sephy. Most of the regulars have registered here anyway.

Ease up on McNair, people, it's hjis pre-season too, anjd he is still getting the nuances of the playbook down and learning the capabilities of his teamates.

It will be ironic though, if Boller comes in the second half and once again wins the game.

[StingerNLG]

BTW, I have no problems running the game threads over here, but I'd like to wait until they get more members over here. Too slow right now. I need exposure baby, exposure!

If you build it.............they will come. :)

[Sephy]

Hah. Well maybe I can start one over there and just link the thread here ;) I prefer the board format here anyway. Lightyears beyond EZboard. I still rue the day RN2 went to Scout/EZboard.

[Mista T]

I'm new to these game threads since never been away w/o TV before. Is there a score? Can anyone synopsize the game outside of the OL sucks and McNair can't throw deep?

:mrt:

[Sephy]

You can check my thread on the other board if it makes you happy. Its 10-0 Vikings right now. McNair looked OK, but threw a pick for 6. Defense playing great against the run, poorly against the pass, especially quick passes.

[Art-Florida]

If you build it.............they will come. :)
That's funny.;)

[RavenFanatic2k6]

Hah. Well maybe I can start one over there and just link the thread here ;) I prefer the board format here anyway. Lightyears beyond EZboard. I still rue the day RN2 went to Scout/EZboard.

Oh god no don't do that, then all the idiot trolls will come over here and ruin this board.

OH wait, I see what you are saying. Nevermind me :)

[Sephy]

Screw it, I'll do the second half here. Test run, if you will!

Block in the back on the return.
1st for Boller at the 9, the carry for Anderson gets 1 if he's lucky.
2nd and 9, pass caught by Mughelli, gain of 5. Chester and Brown are in, I think our second string interior line is better than our first.
3rd and 4, nice pass to Darling gets to the 25 and a first down.
1st, pass for Sypniewski batted down, a bit telegraphed.
2nd, draw for Anderson for a gain of 2 or 3.
3rd and long, false start.
3rd and 12, Boller stares down his primary target, just sitting and waiting for him to come open, he doesn't so he tucks and runs. Tried to hit Moore on the sideline, but no dice.
Punt return stopped at the 30.

[RavenFanatic2k6]

What is Moore doing out there...Williams??

And is our second string OL really better, or are they better because they are playing against second string guys? Regardless, the big problem in the first half was Pashos, and we don't have a replacement for him. There is nobody. Unless we explore trade options with one of our RBs.

[Sephy]

1st, carry for Mathis gets about 1. Ngata really getting pushed around.
2nd and 9, better push for Ngata this time, still stood up though, but the quick pass falls incomplete.
3rd, McMahon chucks it somewhat deep for Barton. Weak play by #29.
1st down from the Ravens 40, complete to McMullen for 5.
2nd and 5, delayed give to Harris for 1.
3rd and 4, SACK by Mike Smith! Another good effort from him. Can't believe he's on the bubble. Penalty on Minny declined.
Ross in to return, touchback.

[Raveninwoodlawn]

Can anyone synopsize the game outside of the OL sucks and McNair can't throw deep?

Unfortunately...that's it.

And our defense spends so much time running around with exotic blitzes and coverages, they can't defend the short passing game.

[Art-Florida]

1st, carry for Mathis gets about 1. Ngata really getting pushed around.
2nd and 9, better push for Ngata this time, still stood up though, but the quick pass falls incomplete.
3rd, McMahon chucks it somewhat deep for Barton. Weak play by #29.
1st down from the Ravens 40, complete to McMullen for 5.
2nd and 5, delayed give to Harris for 1.
3rd and 4, SACK by Mike Smith! Another good effort from him. Can't believe he's on the bubble. Penalty on Minny declined.
Ross in to return, touchback.

Mike Smith is literally forcing his way onto this team.

[Mista T]

if Boller comes in the second half and once again wins the game.

Never going to happen, Art! Just like last season, when he got us excitted in the December night games then choked in Cleveland, you can count on Kyle to panic. Too bad: I would love to see the Ravens get over this PR stunt and have a true QB competition.

:mrt:

[Sephy]

1st, Daniels for 1.
2nd and 9, Boller looks around, can't find anyone, scrambles right, then sees Moore streaking and throws it too far. Looked open too. Tough throw to make.
3rd, Boller throws to Moore's feet. Horrible.

[Sephy]

Koch makes another good punt. He's had one bad one tonight, but the others were excellent. I think he might be coming around, which is a very good sign.

[RavenFanatic2k6]

On the bright side, Koch had the one bad punt but he has looked pretty good otherwise.

And again I ask, why Clarence Moore and not Williams?

[Sephy]

On the bright side, Koch had the one bad punt but he has looked pretty good otherwise.

And again I ask, why Clarence Moore and not Williams?
I'm one step ahead of you :)

[phatboy]

So from the sounds of this I might skip recording this on the NFL network tomorrow. Please advise.

[Sephy]

1st, give to Mathis who makes all kinds of cuts and goes for almost 20. Very nice run.
1st from just before midfield, Mathis for 3-4.
2nd and 5-6, McMahon goes deep for Carter, incomplete but a flag goes down. Uncatchable ball, so hopefully they'll wave it off. Or they won't. No way that is catchable.
1st from the 23, Mathis for 3-4.
2nd and 7, McMahon throws it out of the endzone. He's pretty awful, to be honest.
3rd, PA, pass thrown nicely to Carter but off his fingers, incomplete.
BTW, LOL at Moose butching Echemandu's name.

FG is good, 13-0.

[Sephy]

Yeah, there's nothing to record unless you're a film junkie. Quite an ugly one for the boys in purple.

[RavenFanatic2k6]

I'm one step ahead of you :)

Damn, by like a second lol.


So from the sounds of this I might skip recording this on the NFL network tomorrow. Please advise.

I'm still planning on watching. Just to see how badly they really looked, or if they do look as bad as it sounds.

[Sephy]

Ross to the 23.
Another TV timeout to add to the misery.

[StingerNLG]

Unfortunately guys I have nothing to make video clips from right now.

[RockyMRaven]

I saw this radio link on the YBR board. It's better than nothing for those who can't see the game.

www.warpradio.com/player/...p?id=11228

[Art-Florida]

One of the few bright notes...Koch. He'll get better before he gets worse.

BB and his unnatural love affair with Clarence 'Frogman' Moore is getting tediouser and tediouser.

[StingerNLG]

Nice play action pass. But it's just looking like we're going to lose another road game.

And is it me, or have the Vikings been putting 8 in the box all night? I thought that was all going to end?

If the offensive line sucks, you attack it. The Vikings have played it right tonight. :/

OMG what a play by Clarence Moore!! What a freaking throw by Boller!!

[Ravenatic20]

What did I say about Clarence Moore? What did I say!?!?!!!!!

[Art-Florida]

One of the few bright notes...Koch. He'll get better before he gets worse.

BB and his unnatural love affair with Clarence 'Frogman' Moore is getting tediouser and tediouser.

Oops.

[StingerNLG]

Holy cow!! A one-handed Randle-El catch by Moore!!

We might score a touchdown???

[RavenFanatic2k6]

Clarence Moore is tearing shit up!

[RavenScallywag]

Clarence Moore is certainly shutting us up on this drive! JEEZ!

[Sephy]

1st, PA, pass complete to Mughelli for a decent gain.
2nd and 3-4, run stuffed in the backfield.
3rd and 5, pass complete right at the marker to Moore.
1st, deep for Moore, PHENOMENAL CATCH by Clarence Moore! Nice throw too. Used every single inch for a 46 yard gain. WOW.
1st, give to Ross for 9.
2nd and 1, from the Vikings 18, false start.
2nd and 6, ball floated up for Moore, absolute ridiculous throw, but Moore goes up, makes an unbelievable one handed grab, and gets both feet in. Down at the 3. Moore playing like he grew a pair in the offseason.
1st, Ross for 1.
2nd and goal from the 2, PA fake, Boller immediately bootlegs right, and gets into the endzone just by the pylon! 13-7 Minny.

[StingerNLG]

BOLLER RUNS THE TOUCHDOWN HIMSELF!

ON A BOOTLEG???????? Wow!

Backups or not, this is highly encouraging sign from Kyle.

[RavenScallywag]

Koch certainly gained an edge in the punting battle tonight...

What about KOS?

[Ravenatic20]

If McNair gets injured this season, I'm fine with Boller.

Oh yeah, did I say Moore would be fine? He'll be just fine. "Oh yeah, Moore sucks, blah blah blah" :crazy:

[crowdog89]

Moore playing like he grew a pair in the offseason.



Like Greg said, Moore didn't have hernia surgery in the off season, they actually attached a pair of testicles on him.

[Sephy]

Kick returned to the 27. Moore all smiles on the sideline.

1st, Jackson in at QB, who has looked awesome in the preseason, first throw incomplete for #11.
2nd, Jackson trips over his own feet, gets back up, and the Ravens collect the sack. Who else? Mike Smith.
Ngata has been more than unimpressive so far.
3rd and 15, Vikings let the 3rd elapse.

[Raveninwoodlawn]

Just Dont ask Moore to run any other routes.

I'd like to see him run across the middle.

[RavenScallywag]

NFL.com is crediting that last sack to Rod Green.

[RockyMRaven]

Niice. The D gives us the ball back

[Sephy]

3rd, pass incomplete, and the INT is dropped. Not a very good start for Tarvaris.

Ross gets about 4 on the return.

[Ravenshon]

Since the starters only play one series next week, we could see a little more of Boller in the first half and into the second half.

[StingerNLG]

I'd like to see him run across the middle.

If he'll keep making those catches, I don't want to see him anywhere near the middle!

[Sephy]

Moore has #1 WR potential if he can keep his head in it and make catches consistantly. He has dominating speed and the size speaks for itself. I hate watching him play most of the time, but I'd also hate seeing him go somewhere else and start dominating.

[StingerNLG]

Well so much for that. One look at a defender coming in, and Moore gets alligator arms again.

[Sephy]

1st, Moore drops the pass, and gets hit late. No call. There's the typical Moore ballless play.
2nd, Daniels gets about 3.
3rd and 7, Boller way underthrows Sypniewski, and he's lucky Blue didn't pick it off. Moore was 1 on 1 with a short CB, but didn't get a look.

Carter swamped on the return.

[Ravenshon]

Nice punt by Araguz considering the fact that he missed practices this week.

[RavenScallywag]

Gary Stills on the coverage!

[Ravenshon]

Terrible pass coverage by the defense.

[Sephy]

1st from the 11, Mathis gets 2.
2nd and 8, Mathis gets 1-2 at most.
3rd and 8, way too much space left for the fleet Jackson to run, and gets 9-10.
1st, Jackson slings it beautifully for Carter who runs allll the way 70+ for the TD. Caught the defense unaware and thrown accurately.
20-7.

[RockyMRaven]

Dammit!

[StingerNLG]

Jesus. This is just getting ugly now.

[RockyMRaven]

Do you think we'll ever be able to return a kick or a punt without holding or illegally blocking in the back?

[RavenFanatic2k6]

Needless to say, there is alot of work to be done before Week 1.

They need to find a way to pipe in noise at their practices in an effort to prepare them for playing on the road. I forget what team I read about doing it, might have been a college team, they piped in noise that was at the same level as a jet engine. Honestly I don't know what else it could be. I am just miffed (lol) at how night and day the OL is home and away.

[StingerNLG]

Oh Devard!!!!

[Sephy]

1st, Ross for 5.
2nd and 5, Boller dumps to Ross for a gain of 6.
1st, Boller alertly hits Sypniewski really quickly, and gets 9 because of it.
2nd and 1, Boller steps up and just books it all the way into Viking territory. Illegal use of hands on the Vikes puts 5 more at the end of it. Very nice!
1st down from the Minnesota 44, complete to Darling who immediately fumbles. He made the tackle to prevent it from going for 6, but still. You're cut, son.

[Art-Florida]

I wonder if Dish Network will have any good movies on tomorrow morning? Somehow, the idea of watching the fiasco currently unfolding has little appeal.

[PurpleRulz]

This lack of spirit play is why we cannot win road games. We are playing sloppy ball.

As for Moore, I am still not sold on him. He does not have sure hands. It is 50/50 whether or not he comes down with the catch. He could have as easily dropped those passes as he could have caught them. There is no confidence in Moore's play.

Why isn't Demetrius getting more throws? As far as I am concerned, Williams is our 3rd string receiver. Moore will probably make it because Billick is gushing over those two catches while ignoring the lack of balls catch.

[Sephy]

1st, Mathis gets 6 on the carry.
2nd and 4, Mathis loses 1 or 2. Nice pursuit.
3rd and 5, complete to Owens for 2-3.

Punt downed at the 1.

[Drkraven]

Good Lord when it rains it pours we start on the 1

[RockyMRaven]

The D is bailing our asses out. Hope Devard can recover from the fumble, though. He was just getting his confidence up a bit last week.

[Sephy]

St. Pierre is in. I wish we could see Olson.
1st, Daniels spins and gets 1-2.
2nd and 9, Daniels breaks it out for 10. He has a nice burst.
TO Vikings.

[RavenScallywag]

Olson will get his only PT next week against the Redskins...he's likely going to be cut.

[Sephy]

1st, St. Pierre complete to Williams for 9.
2nd and 1, Daniels gets 1-2.
1st, St Pierre throws it RIGHT to a Viking, and its picked. Looked like Abiamiri bailed on the route, stumbled, something. Ugh.

[PurpleRulz]

Nice running from Daniels. Folks, he makes this team.

Yet another INT. Abrimari falls on his route. See ya Abrimari.

[Sephy]

1st, Adim gets 5. O'Sullivan in for Minny.
2nd and 5, Adim for no gain.
3rd and 5, Davis complete for about 15.
1st and goal from the 6, Adim for 2.
2nd and goal, some kind of false start.
2nd and goal from the 11, complete to Jackson for 5-6 and out of bounds.
3rd and goal from the 5, O'Sullivan throws to god knows who in the middle of a crowd, incomplete.

Longwell on, 23-7. Whee, filled with so much optimism!

[StingerNLG]

Well, time to hit the TiVo. Monk and Psych are on.

[Sephy]

Ross bulls his way to the 30. Please end this quickly.
1st, St Pierre throws low, but a gain of 8.
2 minute warning.

[Sephy]

Psych sucks ;)
So does Monk, actually. Man Stinger, up your TV quality!

[Sephy]

2nd and 2, caught by Blizzard for 4.
1st, St Pierre fumbles, picked up and runs it back for a TD.

hahahaha, OK, seriously, I'm done here.

[RockyMRaven]

Worse and worse. This is horrible.

[Art-Florida]

Olson's career may have just got a big boost.

[RavenFanatic2k6]

Horrible effort all around tonight. I saw nothing to make me believe that anything has changed from last year on the road.

However you got to remember it's just the preseason. I am not panicking yet.

[StingerNLG]

Monk is the shit!! Tony Shalub has won emmy's on that show for a reason.

[PurpleRulz]

Okay. Either Olson really stinks horribly, or Billick is not giving Olson a fare chance, because St. Pierre totally stinks. He makes Kyle look like a Pro Bowler.

[PurpleRulz]

Monk is the shit!! Tony Shalub has won emmy's on that show for a reason.


None of those shows have anything on HOUSE!

[Sephy]

Don't get me wrong, I love Antonio, but I'm not a huge fan of it. I usually like critically acclaimed shows, but that and Lost are two I just don't dig.

[PurpleRulz]

Everyone, look on the screen right now. These guys won't be Ravens much longer.

[RockyMRaven]

I may not be panicking, but I sure am depressed.

[Sephy]

None of those shows have anything on HOUSE!
Oh hell yes.

[StingerNLG]

House is good. Bones is good too. Season premiere this coming week.

[PurpleRulz]

My wife said that the Ravens had a rough flight in that shook everyone up. What happened?

[Art-Florida]

Olson's career may have just got a big boost.

Someone must have heard me. Olson in and completing passes? St. Pierre didn';t look very 'saintly'

[RavenFanatic2k6]

My wife said that the Ravens had a rough flight in that shook everyone up. What happened?

I read the same thing but never heard any details of it.

[flraven]

And here I was hoping to see a great game by the Ravens tomorrow morning. I wanted to stay off this site tonight to watch it without knowing, but curiosity got the best of me. Damn, and there's people coming over tomorrow to watch it. :embarassed:

Gotta hope this is just preseason crap and they put in the real deal for Tampa!

[Sephy]

And here I was hoping to see a great game by the Ravens tomorrow morning. I wanted to stay off this site tonight to watch it without knowing, but curiosity got the best of me. Damn, and there's people coming over tomorrow to watch it. :embarassed:

Gotta hope this is just preseason crap and they put in the real deal for Tampa!
Better buy more beer before those people come over.

[Ravensarge]

ravens Vs. Vikes.....yuck!!!!

[PurpleRulz]

Does anyone else find that Comcast Radio commercial with Mr. T. hilarious?

"Quit your jibber-jabber! Quit your flibber-flabber!" (That commercial cracks me up).

[Sephy]

I crack up at that commercial every freaking time and no one else gets it. quit yo flibba flabba!

[Mista T]

Does anyone else find that Comcast Radio commercial with Mr. T. hilarious?

I find it to be personally insulting! :mrt:

[Mista T]

Based on tonight's performance - and we're almost out of preseason now - I'm starting to think my 8-8 season prediction may have been optimistic. :thumbdown: The 30-7 drubbing is reminiscent of the 2005 road show horrors against Detroit, Cincy, and Jax.

By my calculation, the first team offense has scored but 3 points in 3 exhibition games. Have we ever had such a dismal preseason offensive performance? :229031_confused2: Even with Chris Redmond at the helm? :grbac:

I sure hope that Fassel is just playing it close to the vest, and the real Ravens offense shows up in Tampa!

:mrt:

[52RAYVENS]

It's only preseason folks. I'll start to worry if we play this bad in Tampa.

[UKRavenStockers]

They scored a TD against the Giants T, McNair's TD run, so that's 10 points which is still damned poor all the same.

[RavenTD]

One word,FLAT.

I hope we are not going to see the old Raven up and down rollercoaster ride of 05 in 06.If so then the new coaching methods are falling on death ears.

[Heap86]

By my calculation, the first team offense has scored but 3 points in 3 exhibition games. Have we ever had such a dismal preseason offensive performance? Even with Chris Redmond at the helm?

Did you forget last preseason :grbac:

[StingerNLG]

By my calculation, the first team offense has scored but 3 points in 3 exhibition games.

Actually it's 10 points. Remember McNair ran in a touchdown on his very first drive.

3 points in 2 games though doesn't excite me at all. However, one point of legit defense: it should have been 6 points in 2 games. Stover missed his field goal attempt last night. Just like in Indy. :(