View Full Version : Trade Mike Anderson To The Jets
PurpleRulz
08-15-2006, 01:16 PM
We don't necessarily need Derrick Strait in return, but with Lee Suggs failing that physical and with our surplus of RBs, we should ask the Jets if they'd be interested in Mike Anderson.
I would feel very comfortable with a RB corp of Jamal, Musa, PJ Daniels, and Cory Ross. It seems that Mike Anderson is the odd man out here. Jamal is our featured back. Musa could be his heir. Daniels is our change of pace back. Cory Ross can serve on ST and on end arounds.
Unless MA becomes our fulltime fullback, he has no place on this team. If the Jets give us Strait in return, that would be great. Our secondary could use the depth, but I would just take a draft pick either 5th or 6th round pick.
We need all the picks we can get over the next two drafts.
Fanman
08-15-2006, 01:18 PM
To be short...I couldn't disagree w/ you more. Anderson needs to stay and be a big part of the offense.
Musa Smith is totally unproven and coming off an 18 month rehab. PJ Daniels has 2 fumbles in 4 touches. Nuff said.
FM
Ravenatic20
08-15-2006, 01:21 PM
I like MA. He could be the feature FB, and a power/'must get first downs' RB. Musa looks to be the 2nd string at this point. The Ravens held on to him for a reason.
They also went out and got MA for a reason. Mughelli(?) can go! Green is unproven, so for that reason, lets keep MA! :D
TTRaven
08-15-2006, 01:31 PM
I think it would be a mistake to trade Anderson. I was all for it a couple of days ago. After thinking about it though, that would leave a big drop off after Jamal. If he goes down you're in a world of trouble.
italianjoker
08-15-2006, 01:34 PM
i was for Mike Anderson being our fullback. him and Jamal in the backfield at the same time i just find dangerous.
i am not sure what Anderson's feelings on the matter are, but i am sure he would love to go somewhere and be the starting RB. if we could get something good for him in terms of a draft pick, i don't see why not. it would be a shame to see him go though.
i can say him and Jamal will be in my backfield on Madden. lol.
PurpleRulz
08-15-2006, 01:45 PM
I hear you guys, but is it worth potentially losing a PJ Daniels and Cory Ross off of the practice squad just to keep Mike Anderson? I like MA as well, but not at the expense of our future.
I just don't see Daniels nor Ross lasting this entire year on our PS, let alone making it through waivers to even get to the practice squad.
Well, both could pull up lame with an "injury."
Just my opinion.
StingerNLG
08-15-2006, 02:14 PM
PJ Daniels is going to have to prove to me he can hang onto the Football. We all know Jamal is good for a fumble every 2-3 games. We don't need someone who potentially is good for a fumble every 2-3 carries.
Cory Ross however...... He looked not half bad.
GreenWave52
08-15-2006, 02:24 PM
I'd be more inclined to trading MA if Musa didn't have such an abysmal injury history. After him, both Daniels and Ross are question marks.
I want to wait another preseason game or to and see how our backs look. We can make a deal anytime after the 3rd preseason game to right before the season starts if we need to. RBs are plug and play.
skimmy
08-15-2006, 02:25 PM
We've only seen MA in a scrimmage and a few series in a preseason game. He is the only non-rookie running back we have on the roster that wasn't injured recently. Let's get through the preseason before we decide what to do with him, remember he has been pretty receptive to sharing the workload and still has been productive in that arrangement. I'd hate to see us trade him tomorrow and then watch Musa get injured in a preseason game and/or have Jamal's ankle start acting up when his carries increase.
joeshmoe
08-15-2006, 03:07 PM
No way we trade Mike now. Injuries are a real problem so we need the depth we have at RB. Also please stop saying PJ Daniels is a change of pace back. He is not. He is the same straight ahead north south runner that Jamal and Anderson are. I would lose PJ first. He has zero track record.
deuce
08-15-2006, 03:12 PM
Also, PJ Daniels is not the guy to put the ball on the ground often. Friday was an abberation for whatever reason. I am sure he will bounce back Thursday.
Also, not in favor of trading MA for many of the reasons listed above.
Dabruise
08-15-2006, 03:13 PM
Wouldn't it be ironic to keep MA and have Musa Smitten make it all the way through the season healthy!
Bez513
08-15-2006, 03:18 PM
I'm pulling for Musa. He had a terrible injury and to make it back when most people said he'd never play again is awesome.
21xxxv
08-15-2006, 03:19 PM
MA is insurance for Jamal, and probably Musa. One preseason game doesn't mean a thing.
On another note, I believe Cory Ross can give us more flexibility than Daniels. Again, I am not saying that based on his fumbles. But, rather the heath of Musa and the diverse capability of Ross. Tough SOB
RavenScallywag
08-15-2006, 03:23 PM
MA is also going to be very useful as a FB...though we're seeing some good starts from Justin Green and Dan Wilcox.
choo30
08-15-2006, 03:26 PM
I think we need draft picks also....but KEEP the VET!!!!
LBoogy
08-15-2006, 03:42 PM
There is no way we should trade MA unless there is A LOT in return.
The thing is that, given Jamal's injury history we need a proven back-up; especially a guy who is a 1,000 yard rusher, can effectively play Fb, and is willing to do whatever he can to help the team as a whole.
I LOVE how Musa has been playing so far this summer. It was completely unexpected and a lot of us figured he would be cut. We can't forget he was a top back in his class. HOWEVER, he's STILL unproven in the regular season. P.J. Daniels and Cory Ross, though intriguing, are rookies. We need Mike Anderson. Period.
MediaGuy
08-15-2006, 03:44 PM
I would slow down on the trade talk. Injuries happen and the season hasn't even started yet. Have to wait and see what injuries occur, assess strengths and weakness's, which will set our priorities. Then go from there. But hey.......what do I know?
Prolific
08-16-2006, 11:12 AM
Isn't it a little early to be throwing MA under the bus? MA ran with the second team offense mostly and didn't get a chance to get going cause they mostly sent him on dive plays.
While Jamal made something happen with his dive plays, remember that he worked exclusively with the first team O-line which was clicking on all cylinders in that first series.
I'd wait to reserve judgement on MA until a later date. Something tells me that we're gonna need him and he's gonna make a contribution to this team.
Besides, as good as Musa's looked, lest we forget that this kid's got a reserved gurney in the trainer's room. It seems that as soon as he gets that chance to get on the field he winds up not being able to leave under his own power.
I like Musa, but the smart money says that it's not a good idea to place all of your hopes on not one but two guys who've had injury concerns in the recent past.
MA is probably the heathiest proven veteran RB that the Ravens have and IMO it'd be stupid to trade away a guy unless you're getting above value returns and also got positive reassurances that P.J. Daniels can handle the back-up duties which I'm not convinced of yet if asked.
MA is going to get that ball rollin sooner rather than later as he's a productive and proven back in this league unlike Daniels and Ross. I'd take a proven 1,000yd rusher over these two unproven rookies anywhere, anytime.
Just my opinion.-Pro-
camdenyard
08-16-2006, 11:34 AM
PJ Daniels is a scrub. He'll be cut.
B-more Ravor
08-16-2006, 11:53 AM
No, sorry, but trading Anderson is not a good idea. And, besides, we'd only get a lower round pick for him, so that's not worth the change they'd be taking. Without Anderson, and until Musa can prove that he can stay healthy, you could end up looking at PJ Daniels as your starter if Jamal and Musa were to get hurt.
With the aging stars we have on this team, this season is too important to take that chance.
Bez513
08-16-2006, 11:53 AM
PJ Daniels is a scrub. He'll be cut.
Cut a 4th round draft pick?? Not so fast. He hasn't looked good in the 1st game but he can turn it around.
jonboy79
08-16-2006, 12:12 PM
Cut a 4th round draft pick?? Not so fast. He hasn't looked good in the 1st game but he can turn it around.
5th, but you have a point, it's a little early for that kind of talk.
PurpleRulz
08-18-2006, 03:26 PM
I have to revisit this thread, because while there are some good points for not trading Anderson, there is one thing to consider. Would Mike Anderson WANT to be considered the 3rd RB on this team. It is a matter of egos. We don't need another season of a RB griping.
As of now, the top two RBs are Jamal and Musa. There really is no place for Anderson unless he is coverted to a fulltime FB.
I am watching this game again on NFL Network and PJ Daniels ran the football pretty well. I would rather have a youngster like PJ Daniels as the 3rd RB instead of a vet that could have an ego problem about sharing carries. Plus, with teams like the Jets needing a reliable RB, we could get a draft pick in return. We lost a conditional 4th for McNair. We could retain an extra 4th or even gain a 5th round pick.
I say that we ought to think about trading MA. Maybe we could do it at the deadline, or we could be fair to MA and trade him now where he could learn his new team's system. Either way, I think Anderson is the odd man out here.
Merlin
08-18-2006, 03:48 PM
Would trade him if we could get a high quality offensive lineman. Still think that this is the achilles heel of the team.
Wonder if Billick praising Flynn when McNair got sacked on a running play? :rolleyes:
Raineman
08-18-2006, 04:04 PM
I'll take a veteran 1000 yard back anyday until it is "rebuild" time. He came from a three back system, so I don't think he would have a problem being a #3. Especially since it is likely he will have fullback duties.
I would say he could have no problem putting his ego aside for a ring. Most of the vets we have are here for that.
StingerNLG
08-18-2006, 04:33 PM
Keep in mind that Musa Smith is also big on special teams too. So being the number 3 RB is a good thing because then we can use Smith where he's been effective as well as a nice 3rd string "not this guy too" kind of back.
Musa is way to important to trade, but because of his need on ST, Mike Anderson is needed too.
PurpleRulz
08-18-2006, 04:57 PM
On Rob Long's Show, Rob taked about interviewing Mike Anderson and that MA did not expect us to retain Jamal. MA thought he would be the featured back. He may not publicly have an issue with being the 3rd RB, but you have to wonder what he truly feels deep down. Again, the last thing we need is another disgruntled player.
TTRaven
08-18-2006, 05:00 PM
There were 2 guys on that cold pizza show earlier this week discussing the Ravens RB's. One guy who is in the know somehow, said that teams are calling the Ravens non-stop asking about Musa Smith and even Jamal Lewis. The guy quoted Ozzie as saying "we're not moving either one unless some team does something stupid" Stupid meaning offer up a #1 pick or a big time player. No mention of Anderson which I thought was kind of strange.
Art-Florida
08-18-2006, 05:30 PM
If Brian Billick really said that, then the stupidity begins right there. If a team is eager enough to trade say, a number one draft choice, or even a top-notch offfensive tackle (which we badly need-our T depth is non-existent) then we ought to be paying attention, not calling names.
B-more Ravor
08-18-2006, 07:03 PM
If Brian Billick really said that........
I don't see where anyone said Billick said anything? :confused:
As far as trading Anderson goes, I have to agree - only if someone overwhelms us. You've got to remember that this team is built to win now, and even a 3rd rounder next year does us no good right now. And, if Jamal and Musa somehow did get hurt, that 3rd rounder would really be doing us no good.
Don't get me wrong, all things being equal, I'd love to get a decent draft pick for Anderson, but not knowing what will happen from here on out makes me a bit gun-shy.
bassgtrst
08-18-2006, 07:10 PM
I think we should hold on to MA this year and possibly deal him this offseason. This way we can see what we have with Jamal and Musa. This gives us the option of:
Going with Jamal and MA if Musa doesnt turn out.
Going in a new direction with Musa, decide if MA or Jamal will be backup.
If Musa doesnt pan out and Jamal doesnt either, then we have MA signed for 2-3 more years.
If we were going to trade him before the season we should wait until a teamloses a RB for the year. Then we rip 'em off.
jonboy79
08-18-2006, 08:18 PM
If both Musa and Jamal are healthy and productive, then we can deal MA at the deadline to someone who lost someone for the year.
Ravens0587
08-18-2006, 08:33 PM
I've turned into a huge Musa fan, so much so that if Lewis starts to slump I say Start Musa
Mobtown
08-18-2006, 11:43 PM
turned into a huge Musa fan, so much so that if Lewis starts to slump I say Start Musa
I agree. If Jamal starts dancing again, he should be yanked as the starter. THough, given what we have seen so far, I don't see that happening.
As others have said, baring a silly offer, I don't see an upside to trading MA. He adds excellent depth and is still a beast inside the 5.
Fanman
08-19-2006, 09:34 AM
Even after the win vs vs the Eagles I think it is WAY too early to consider trading Mike Anderson. Has Musa looked great...yes. But this guy has barely played in almost 2 years. Keeping Anderson as the #2 is still the way to go..esp when it looks like PJ Daniels might get cut.
We know the Jets are looking for a RB, but if you make a trade it I think it needs to be for a starter that can contribute this year. I don't like the idea of trading a proven starter for a draft pick that could be a total bust.
FM
GreenWave52
08-19-2006, 12:46 PM
We got Daniels in the 5th, think we could trade him for a 4th?
As far as drafting goes, outside of the 1st round we do the best in the 4th.
Sports Steve
08-22-2006, 05:13 PM
It's way too early to talk about trading Mike Anderson. Now that we have been told Jamal will not play until the season begins. I not so sure Jamal is ready for the season. Yes Musa Smith is running great however let us take a step back and remember these games are practice and mean nothing. I would not send Anderson anywhere yet.
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