GAME THREAD - Ravens/Patriots

[52decleetzu]

Where are you,it's supposed to be all over the Baltimore area starting today, but you have to subscribe to the Sports & entertainmebt package - $5 a month but well worth it, trust me

The free preview isn't, and I have no idea why.

Not listed on our channels or on the website.

Just chuck it up in the air and pray Moss comes down with it...nice.

[RavenScallywag]

was it really a bad call to blitz? If Foxworth stays with Moss, that was a bad throw, he could've easily tipped it down.

The bad call was Foxworth's coverage...looks like Moss outmanuvered him.

[Raveninwoodlawn]

well, if the defense isn't going to stop them, this game is over.

I thought we needed to score 30 points to win this game and we'll be lucky to get 20.

[Sephy]

Oh the blitz got there, Reed was flying in, he just chucked it up, and I'll take Moss in that matchup any day.

That said, just a BAD call to leave Foxworth alone over there. Not at all happy with Mattison's gameplan.

[RavensInBrazil]

Yeah, single-covering Moss in the endzone, BRILLIANT MOVE

[Flipping Birdie]

Hey, good news.

Cleveland is actually beating the Bangals. Wow. We needed that.

[Sephy]

Offside and a strong leg sends that out of the back of the endzone.

[PARavensJeff]

I didn't hear about the free preview - Give Comcrap a call & give them an earful like I did the 1st 3 weeks until we finally got it

[Sephy]

1st, complete to Clayton to the 33-34.

[Sephy]

1st, complete to Mason for about 20 and a first. Flag down. OPI on Mason. Oh of course we get called for that BS.

[PARavensJeff]

You have to be kidding me - These refs are terrible - That's not a good call Simms, you suck too

[Sephy]

1st and 20, RICE EXPLODES to the Pats 30!!

[PARavensJeff]

Wow, look what happens when we run the ball!!!! Go Ray

[52decleetzu]

Another bullshit call.

Great run by Rice.

Shut your fuckjing mouth Simms you disgust me.

[Galen Sevinne]

duh...draw?????

[RavenScallywag]

Rice for BIG gain...

then next run he has lots of room and loses his feet.

[Lee Van Cleef]

About time.

And seeing some good protection out there on those two throws. Nice.

[Galen Sevinne]

we could run the ball all day on these guys

[darb72]

Our running game has been solid. Why in the world have we not been pounding it up the middle all day?

[PARavensJeff]

Big 3rd down come on Joe

[Sephy]

1st from the 27, Rice again, stumbles in the backfield, squirms for 2.
2nd and 8, intended for KW, Merriweather forces his way in there. He's playing outstanding today.
3rd and 8, Pats jump, complete to Rice, gets 13 yards. Declined.

Rice is so fucking awesome.

[Lee Van Cleef]

Ray Rice is sick.

[PARavensJeff]

Way to go Rice - Offsides D - 1st down!!!

[Sephy]

4th quarter. Need 6 here then a defensive stop. No question.

[myfavoriteboxer]

If I see any yellow flags by accident this week I might have a traumatic episode. But we have been playing the Pats, the refs, and ourselves most of this game, and we have a chance to win it with 15 mins to go, which is all you can ask for in that sort of circumstance.

[Galen Sevinne]

I wouldn't be mad Cam if you ran the ball a couple times down here.

[RavenScallywag]

Ray Rice is making his statement...McGahee has been the talk of the town for the past 3 weeks, Rice wants to jump out in front.

[YRKPARAVEN]

Very poor game by this Ref crew.
That call on Mason was weak. And the announcer agreeing with it makes me sick.

[Sephy]

1st, from the 15, Rice for 2.
2nd and 8, complete to Willis, TOUCHDOWN RAVENS!!

[52decleetzu]

Very poor game by this Ref crew.
That call on Mason was weak. And the announcer agreeing with it makes me sick.

Simms actuallty said. "Well there wasn't much there........." BUT

But what you jackass? If there is not much there you don't throw the flag.

Shove that up your ass Simms.

Nice play Willis and Joe!!!

[Ravens45]

TOUCHDOWN.... RRRRRRAVENS!!


Willis McGahee has been a beast this year! 7 TD's already!

[darb72]

TD McGhee.

That's seven for him this season. Anybody wishing he was on their fantasy team right about now?

[RavenScallywag]

I hope the D steps it up this round...I think we're starting to click on Offense again, if the D can hold, we can still win this!

[Sephy]

Great move by Willis, survives the helmet to helmet hit (with no call, of course), and holds on for the TD.

COME ON DEFENSE

[PARavensJeff]

TD!!! Time for a big stand Defense

[Lee Van Cleef]

That's more like it.

Better protection, better playcalling, better running. This is the multi-faceted offense we saw the last few weeks.

[Sephy]

Yanda is standing up to his rushes, Oher is protecting well.

Maroney to the 26.

[OwingsMillsAlex]

TD McGhee.

That's seven for him this season. Anybody wishing he was on their fantasy team right about now?

Actually he IS on my fantasy team. :happy:

[Sephy]

1st, Taylor for 2.
2nd and 8, incomplete for Welker. Carr all over that.
3rd and 8, Ray on the delayed blitz leaves the middle wide open and Welker complete for 11. Zibby beat.

[Raveninwoodlawn]

Why is Zibby in there covering Walker?

We have 2 other CB's that should be playing especially when it comes to covering Welker.

[Sephy]

1st, pocket collapses, Brady rolls, keeps and runs for 7.
2nd and 3, no one on Brady, little dump to Welker for 4.

[52decleetzu]

Hell of a play by JJ to shed that blocker and then trip him up...nice.

[Sephy]

1st, Maroney dances and loses 1.
2nd and 11, quick hit to Morris who slips through and gets 15. And Ayanbadejo is hurt.

I think its his left arm.

[PARavensJeff]

Where's the holding on Moss on that 1? & they get a 1st down because of it

[RavenScallywag]

Unless we can hold them to 3 here, I think the Pats have this game in hand. They are moving it at will against us.

[RavensInBrazil]

They don't call holding anymore, just once in a while to pretend

[52decleetzu]

Where's the holding on Moss on that 1? & they get a 1st down because of it

Yep, Moss basically grabbed Brendan as he was flying by, preventing him from making the tackle and giving the Pats a 13 yd gain.

[GaRaven]

One play!! C'mon!!! Defense needs to get the ball back right here!!!

[Sephy]

Apparently a knee on Brendan. He can't put any weight on it. That could be a season ender..

1st, from the 36, Faulk has a ton of room on the draw, gets 9 -10 yards. Call it a first.

[Raveninwoodlawn]

This is the type of game where we really miss Rex Ryan.

Ryan would be having actual CB's out there covering WR's instead of CB's and S's.

Mattison wants to play traditional 2 LB's and instead of CB's, have Safeties out there.

[Sephy]

1st, Faulk for 3.
2nd and 7, caught by Faulk, Reed says incomplete for 6. Ooh that ball hit the turf. Ravens are challenging.

[52decleetzu]

Ball clearly hit the ground, refs wont overturn it watch.

[PARavensJeff]

Faulk dropped that ball - Incomplete Pass

[myfavoriteboxer]

That's a bad challenge, we're going to need that timeout.

[RavenScallywag]

replays look like he caught it cleanly...Ed Reed was ADAMANT he didn't make it, that's probably why Harbaugh challenged...I don't see it, I think it was a catch

[GaRaven]

I saw only one replay that showed that it might have hit the ground....but we will see...

[PARavensJeff]

These guys are more blind than Mr Magoo

[52decleetzu]

The ball was SLIDING ON THE GROUND for Christ's sake!!!!!!!!

[Sephy]

Ball pretty fuckin clearly hit the turf. Not overturned.

3rd and 1, someone just took a TO. New England.

[PARavensJeff]

Patriots bailed out the Ravens on that 1 - WTF you just had a time out wake up guys

[Sephy]

3rd and 1, Morris gets 1. Flag down. Picked up.

[PARavensJeff]

Noce F bomb Harbs - Of course they pick up the flag

[PARavensJeff]

WHy doesn't Simms put on a cheerleader outfit & pick up the Pom Poms for the Patriots. Nice stand D

[RavenScallywag]

Yes! We finally held!

FG attempt coming...wth?

wow...fake FG trickery, but felled by incorrect lineup by the motion man. Harbs challenging, hoping if it's not 1st down we can decline penalty...maybe?

[PARavensJeff]

He didn't get the 1st anyway but damn come on - Good heads up hustle & recognition Suggs

[Sephy]

Please keep them out of the endzone.

1st from the 15, caught at the 10 by Morris.
2nd and 4, thrown wide for Moss.
3rd and 4, batted and incomplete. FUCKING PHEW.

4th and 4, quick snapped and thrown to Baker. Illegal motion.
4th and 9, now they will kick it..I think.

Harbaugh getting an explanation cause they might have been short anyway.

[52decleetzu]

Just do what you have been doing offense, march it right down the field.

Whenever we get the ball back.

Keep trying to make up some rules for the Pats Simms. You are making an ass out of yourself.

[Raveninwoodlawn]

Why didn't they measure?!!!!!!

I think it was a catch, but no way they give him the first on that play...he was short!!!!!!

The ref's should be measuring the spot, and then if it is short, giving us the ball!

[Sephy]

Harbaugh is now officially challenging that he was short.

[Lee Van Cleef]

What the hell is going on?

[52decleetzu]

This could be HUGE if they call it for us.

Hold on a second I just woke up from a daydream....nevermind.

[PARavensJeff]

Don't waste all our TO's or challenges Harbs, we may need them

[Sephy]

Legit chance of getting this ball back in a 3 point game.

[myfavoriteboxer]

This is an odd, odd game. It will be interesting to hear explanations from all sides about this one postgame.

[PARavensJeff]

I hope you're right but I don't feel good w/ this officiating crew

[52decleetzu]

This is an odd, odd game. It will be interesting to hear explanations from all sides about this one postgame.

Harbaugh has been hot all day long, kind of wish he had some "Billick" in him for the postgame preser.

He will just say all the right things though knowing him,and not rock the boat.

[RavenScallywag]

Replays showing it should be short...

Refs say....1st....of course

so 4th and 9.

Yay officiating.

[Lee Van Cleef]

I don't see what the benefit of all that was. Just wasted a TO.

[darb72]

Ok, that was weird.

I have no clue what Harbaugh was challenging there. Of course the refs said it would have been a first down since they suck.

Ok, offense. Need y'all to go ahead and score a TD here so we can win this game.

[Sephy]

And of course, Ron Winter fucks up.

Dude did NOT have a first down.

Its a 6 point game now. Just total BS.

[Ravens45]

BULL CRAP.

These refs have been sucking on the Pats all day, and Simms has been like the guy behind the camera cheering them on.

[myfavoriteboxer]

I don't see what the benefit of all that was. Just wasted a TO.

Don't think we lost the TO there. The ref didn't say so, but maybe that's because he's an idiot.

[52decleetzu]

I don't see what the benefit of all that was. Just wasted a TO.

3 POINTS

That is what what the challenge was all about. Kind of important with 7 minutes left down by 3.

[Sephy]

Webb gets to the 35. Nice run.

[PARavensJeff]

Going for it - hope this play call is better

[EdReed4Prez]

Need to eat clock and score here.

[52decleetzu]

Shove it up the fucking middle again.

[Sephy]

1st, Willis for 4.
2nd and 6, complete to Heap for 5.
3rd and 1, give to Rice no gain. Really unsure about that call. Ravens going for it.
4th and 1, give to Willis is short.

[PARavensJeff]

Damn that was not good what kind of play call was that - take what they give you

[darb72]

And we get stuffed. This game is over.

[Sephy]

WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY
Why not LeRon, why not I-form, WHY FUCKKKKKKK

[Ravens45]

Say that you want, but I am totally convinced that these refs went into this game IN FOXBORO determined that the Patriots would come out of this game with a win...

[Lee Van Cleef]

Oh well. We fought at least, I'm glad for that.

[PARavensJeff]

Quick slant - 1st down & maybe 7.....Our D has not stopped them all day & now we need them to

[Sephy]

1st, Taylor for 3.
2nd and 7, Morris for 2.
3rd and 5, overthrown for Welker!

[Lee Van Cleef]

Oh wait, a second chance.

[PARavensJeff]

Finally the D holds. Going to be a long drive we need to score fast but not too fast - block that Punt - GO Reed

[52decleetzu]

It aint over yet boys.

Be a hero Joe.

[Sephy]

Ravens ball at the 20 with 3:30 to play.

[RavenScallywag]

please, let's be the Pats from 2007...miraculous last min drive that gets us in the endzone!

[Sephy]

1st, caught by Clayton for 12 and OOB.

[PARavensJeff]

Nice catch Clayton - Here we go

[Sephy]

1st, complete to Mason for 11 and another first.

[Lee Van Cleef]

This is the time for Joe to make himself a name. Let's go.

[PARavensJeff]

Mason 1st catch since 1st drive

[Sephy]

1st, Flacco hammered but got it off. INC.

[darb72]

Sephy brings up an excellent point. The Pats were without Mayo and Wilfork is banged up. Where is McClain and the I-Form? We should have been playing smash mouth football with the cheaters.

[PARavensJeff]

Joe almost got ripped in 2

[RavenScallywag]

PHEW...Big hit on Joe, but he got pass off....

where has this offense been???

[Sephy]

2nd and 10, from the 43, comp to Clayton for 9.
3rd and 1, sneak for 2. First down.

[PARavensJeff]

I haven't seen McClain all day

[Sephy]

1st from the Pats 46, comp for 9 to Clayton. 2 minute warning.

[RavenScallywag]

2 min warning, we're inside the Pats 40...

Why couldn't this be a 3 pt game!??! Damn you refs!

[Ravens45]

Man, my chest is pounding. I want this win SOOOOO bad...

[PARavensJeff]

2 min warning, we're inside the Pats 40...

Why couldn't this be a 3 pt game!??! Damn you refs!

Damn you Carr

[Lee Van Cleef]

Please offense. Please do this.

[myfavoriteboxer]

Go 37 yards in 2 minutes with 1 timeout. Ravens 28, Pats 27. I can smell this.:thumbup:

[Stealthbirds80]

Could this be the beginning of the Flacco legend? Game winning drive on National TV in Foxborough. Holding my breath as this is a classic.

[Sephy]

2 minutes for 37 yards.

2nd and 1, from the NE 37, TO Pats.

[myfavoriteboxer]

During the TO, news from around the league. Bengals were losing in Cleveland by 6 in the 4th quarter, scored a TD but MISSED the extra point. Tie game heads to overtime. Glad I'm not an Ohio fan at least.

[RavenScallywag]

I just can't help it, I have a bad feeling about this...I just smell a bad call or mistake to end it.

I really hope I;m wrong. This would be a RIDICULOUS comeback

[Sephy]

2nd and 1, give to Rice for about 5.

[PARavensJeff]

Rice about got his head ripped off - 1st down

[RavenScallywag]

my breath just stopped on that tip, was sure it'd be an INT

[Sephy]

1st, from the 33, Flacco steps up and overthrows Rice. Or off his hands.
2nd, screen to Rice to the 19!! PERFECT CALL

[PARavensJeff]

Rice is awesome

[RavenScallywag]

Rice makes up for it, NICE screen for 14

then lob to endzone, incomplete...smart throw

[Ravens45]

RICE INSIDE THE 20!!!....

C'mon, we can pull this one out......

[Sephy]

1st, fade for Clayton, incomplete.
2nd and 10, complete to KW for 7.
3rd and 3, Mason mugged, incomplete.

[PARavensJeff]

That was Pass Interference

[darb72]

Clayton should have had that one. It was in his arms in the end-zone.

And here's the game. Fourth and three.

[Sephy]

4th and 3, DROPPED BY CLAYTON. WAS RIGHT THERE

[PARavensJeff]

How did he drop that

[RavenScallywag]

so heartbreaking...damn it.

[darb72]

Stupid Clayton.

Can we cut that waste of a draft pick now?

What a totally worthless selection. That guy sucks.

[52decleetzu]

He had it.

He had it right in his hands.

Just.........crushing defeat.

[Lee Van Cleef]

Fuck off Clayton. How do you not catch that?

[Sephy]

Mark Clayton loses the game. Unbelievable.
Flacco had the win. We HAD THAT WIN.

[YRKPARAVEN]

NE should be 1 and 3 and not 3 and 1.
Geez.
Thats one that got away

[Raveninwoodlawn]

Unreal.

Nice job Clayton.

[PARavensJeff]

1st & goal w/ timeout & 30 seconds left - instead we are 3-1

[Stealthbirds80]

That was a great game. CLAYTON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Oh well we had that game. I hate that we keep letting these statement games slip between our fingers.

[RavenScallywag]

Ravens will drop to something like 15 in the rankings, we'll be worst rated 3-1 team. They'll say we're done.

I give this team a lot of credit...you saw heart on that last drive...Clayton made a mistake, he did pretty well on the drive before that.

[Ravens45]

I HATE everything New England. This is getting awfully @#%*! ridiculous. 0-5 against these cheating a-holes.

There were alot of reasons for this loss.

FIRST off, these refs were atrocious.

Secondly, we didn't run the ball until the game was almost over. Why pass almost the entire game on every play?

Thirdly, our secondary. Again. I said this last week and people jumped all over me. Our secondary has been a weakness all season (except for against CLE. No big feat there.)

In most ways, we deserved to have won this game due to the constant bull crap calls coming from the refs. But at the same time, our defense wasn't their usual self for most of the game.

[Raveninwoodlawn]

I'm still in shock.

Can't believe he dropped that ball.

That was Travis Taylor esque.

I know nobody feels worse than Clayton, but when you are getting paid to make plays, you can't blow routine plays. Don't look to make a move, just catch the ball.

[GaRaven]

That is just how it goes....we did everything we could to lose that game....yet, in the end...there was a chance!

So, now we suffer for week....try to get a short memory and move on!!

[Stealthbirds80]

I wonder how much the Prescott trade played into this. I let out the loudest curse word I know just now.

[RavenScallywag]

if we're going to pick Clayton apart for the drop, you can pick apart Mason for dropping it on 3rd and 4.

Those guys fought, just had a tough task and couldn't get it done today. The pre-Harbaugh and Flacco Ravens wouldn't have gotten beyond the midfield.

[Lee Van Cleef]

I'm going to go easier on the O-line now because that was ridiculous not running the ball more.

I officially dislike Clayton now.

[Ravens45]

Why didn't Harbaugh call TO?! There were 30 seconds left on 4th and 3 with the crowd making noise. AT THE MOST CRITICAL PART OF THE GAME. Call time, get your guys together and calmed, and punch into the endzone for the win.

I am getting real tired of losing to NE. Especially back-to-back heartbrake losses to them.

[RavenScallywag]

I wonder how much the Prescott trade played into this. I let out the loudest curse word I know just now.

He probably told them "The Ravens D...is good. The corners...are fast. The LBs...play defense."

He knew nothing, he told them nothing. They didn't pick us apart, they just played hard.

[EdReed4Prez]

we weren't going 16-0, road loss to NE and a squeaker at that. Nothing to be ashamed of. I hope gaither is ok.

[52decleetzu]

if we're going to pick Clayton apart for the drop, you can pick apart Mason for dropping it on 3rd and 4.

Those guys fought, just had a tough task and couldn't get it done today. The pre-Harbaugh and Flacco Ravens wouldn't have gotten beyond the midfield.

It is much more fun to pile on everyones favorite WR whipping boy Clayton and how he is a "bust" and how he "sucks" and is "terrible" or looks like "Travis Taylor out there"

[Mr.Boh]

Why didn't Harbaugh call TO?! There were 30 seconds left on 4th and 3 with the crowd making noise. AT THE MOST CRITICAL PART OF THE GAME. Call time, get your guys together and calmed, and punch into the endzone for the win.

I am getting real tired of losing to NE. Especially back-to-back heartbrake losses to them.

In fairness to Harbs, every Raven made that play except clayton

[Sephy]

Not calling a timeout wasn't the problem. If you waste your TO, and don't go out of bounds (which is pretty unlikely there), you have about 15 seconds and 3 downs only.

The problem is that useless twit can't make a catch with the game on the line if his life depended on it. That's a catch that makes a difference between a bye or not.

[bmorebirds_24]

Catch the fucking ball!!!!!!!!!!! Mason, Clayton BOTH catch the damn ball.:grbac:

[PARavensJeff]

No Ravens Post Game on MASN yet because the Nationals game is in the 12th inning - Hey MASN, here's an ides, move the NATS game to MASN2 since the Orioles game is over & put on the postgame show.....DUH

[Gabrosin]

Heartbreaking loss, but in the grand scheme I'm not too worried. We went out and played a solid game, and even with all our costly mistakes we were within a few yards of coming out of there with a victory. No one here was expecting 16-0... it'll be important to see how we bounce back against Cincinnati next week.

Hope Gaither is okay and can make it back sometime this season, the sooner the better... OT is one of the few positions where we're really thin, and losing him for an extended period of time would really affect what Cameron can do with the offense.

[bretts]

Why didn't Harbaugh call TO?! There were 30 seconds left on 4th and 3 with the crowd making noise. AT THE MOST CRITICAL PART OF THE GAME. Call time, get your guys together and calmed, and punch into the endzone for the win.

I am getting real tired of losing to NE. Especially back-to-back heartbrake losses to them.

how in the world can you blame that on Harbaugh. that was a perfect play call, and a perfect pass. that should have been a first down.

[Lee Van Cleef]

That is just how it goes....we did everything we could to lose that game....yet, in the end...there was a chance!

So, now we suffer for week....try to get a short memory and move on!!

And just once, in these statement games, I'd like to see the doing everything they can to win it, and in the end walking out smiling.

It was nice to be in with a chance at the end, but without dumb penalties, drops...the team probably could have won it.

This also goes to show that when QBs make legendary drives happen, they do it with other players matching that contribution.

[Sephy]

And on the secondary - please. Its Tom Freaking Brady. He only threw for 250 yards. He's if not the best, the 2nd best QB in the NFL. There is no shame there. He has 2 outstanding WRs. Belichick is the best coach in the NFL.

Lots of things loom large about this game. The Gaither injury, the pass heavy approach, the bad pass picked at the end of the first half.

We lost a game to a great team that came down to a dropped pass. I'm as furiously pissed as anyone, but come on.

[RavenScallywag]

give this loss til Tuesday. Your head will clear and it will be easier to see that yes, we had a couple mistakes which killed us and we're STILL a contending team. We're STILL going to hold the lead in the AFC North...either tying Cincy if they win in OT or holding the lead if they lose.

We were a team made out of wood this week. Next week, we're going to come out the gate made of steel. This game will yield a LOT of fixes.

[HoustonRaven]

You cannot deny that our first rounf draft pick Clayton is now a liability.

JW, please put a gun in your mouth for ever suggesting his supreme ability.

[PARavensJeff]

Red Zone showing Browns/Bengals OT game - Golden Boy Sanchez just pick 6'd by Darren Sharper for 95 yard return

[Galen Sevinne]

That's a catch that makes a difference between a bye or not.

:word it also the difference between a good team and a great team. Ravens did not get it down this week. we'll see about the future.

[myfavoriteboxer]

This sucks right now but we weren't going 16-0 and we might as well lose a squeaker to a good team instead of getting embarrassed. I guess..

I would love to see Cincy/Cleveland end in a tie. 2 minutes to go. Absolutely hilarious.

[PARavensJeff]

Cincinnati on Cleveland 40 with 2 minutes left in OT - What is wrong w/ the FOX station here, they are showing Denver/Dallas instead of NY/NO.

[Galen Sevinne]

we're STILL a contending team. .

but not a great team at week 4.

[Raveninwoodlawn]

There are many things that go into this loss.

The Carr fumble.

Joe's INT at the end of the half when we should have at least got 3.

Some questionable ref calls.

But when you fight and fight and fight through all of that, and you have a chance at the end, you have to make the easy plays.

Mason didn't come down with the ball, but you know, the defender was all over him.

Clayton was WIDE open, all he had to do was catch and fall down, and the ball ricochets off his chest.

The tough plays are tough...and there is a reason why we make a big deal when players make them.

You need to make the easy play though...and in a big moment, Clayton couldn't make an easy play.

And that is VERY upsetting and disappointing.

[Lee Van Cleef]

Oh well.

Bengals up next.

[RavenDavey]

That drop SUCKED!!!

You have to make that catch to be an elite team!!

Maybe this early loss will keep the team on an even keel, and other than the drop and loss, this offense with Joe cool will win games at crunch time! The defense does not have to win the game as in the past...

[PARavensJeff]

Palmer sacked w/ 1:13 left - ball on Cleveland 43 - 3rd & 13 for Bengals

[PARavensJeff]

4th & 11 - 1:04 left - Bengals going for it

[caliraven]

Of course Mark Clayton HAS to catch that, but that play will be made in the future. At least it looks like Carr is out and Ladarius is in, Thank goodness.

[PARavensJeff]

Palmer runs for 1st down - typical Browns

[PARavensJeff]

Bengals inside 20w/ 40 seconds left

[PARavensJeff]

Timeout Bengals 7 seconds left ball on Cleveland 15

[PARavensJeff]

Looks like we're playing for 1st place next week - Bengals win 23-20 - That kick looked wide right to me

[RavenScallywag]

Clayton was open, but not wide open...2 guys close enough to hit him after the bobble...he was reaching for the ball to try to catch still and both dragged him down. Not like the guy was looking at a sure TD.

[myfavoriteboxer]

One of life's lessons, you can never count on the Browns.

[pyite32]

Clayton was open, but not wide open...2 guys close enough to hit him after the bobble...he was reaching for the ball to try to catch still and both dragged him down. Not like the guy was looking at a sure TD.

A real NFL receiver catches that plain and simple.

[Sephy]

Clayton was open, but not wide open...2 guys close enough to hit him after the bobble...he was reaching for the ball to try to catch still and both dragged him down. Not like the guy was looking at a sure TD.

Oh come on..you do not get more wide open than that from the 10 and on a comeback route.

[caliraven]

I hope M&T gives Mark Clayton a huge ovation next week. The poor guy's gotta be going through it. Any NFL WR makes that catch and any NFL WR drops one every once in a while. His screw up was just at the exact wrong time. We're gonna need him. And the Ravens are just the kind of team to build muscle from this disappointment.

[4G63]

Clayton FTMFL!!!

[Ravens45]

how in the world can you blame that on Harbaugh. that was a perfect play call, and a perfect pass. that should have been a first down.

:grbac: In no way am I blaming Harbaugh! It's not his fault we lost. I was just asking out loud why wasn't a TO called? That's all. There's no finger pointing towards him in any way.

I just think that time should have been called. It was a make-or-break moment in the game. What do you have to lose? If you don't convert, game over. I would have called time, get the guys together (cause you know the adrenaline is rushing 1,000 mph) and get them totally focused on what's about to happen on this next play. Get them focused so they can convert or score. If not, it's over. No harm done in calling TO.

[PARavensJeff]

NO MASN postgame show still - Nats/Braves in 13th inning of 1-1 tie & MASN2showing ESPN News - Come on MASN you suck

[Raveninwoodlawn]

Clayton was open, but not wide open...2 guys close enough to hit him after the bobble...he was reaching for the ball to try to catch still and both dragged him down. Not like the guy was looking at a sure TD.

When the ball hit Clayton in the chest, the closest guy was 2-3 yards away...they were closing, but when you have 2-3 yards of separation, that is wide open in the NFL.

Joe may have thrown a split second too late, but Clayton made his move, stopped, and drifted back...probably unnecessarily but you never know how a minor thing like that may mess up your concentration...and the ball bounced off his chest, while falling back, reached out and then the guy hit him.

That is an easy play in this league...if you are a pro WR, you are expected to make that play with relative ease.

[4G63]

There is no argument.....Clayton had the ball hit him in the fucking chest without a receiver near him.....he lost the fucking game!!!

[Raveninwoodlawn]

I hope M&T gives Mark Clayton a huge ovation next week. The poor guy's gotta be going through it. Any NFL WR makes that catch and any NFL WR drops one every once in a while. His screw up was just at the exact wrong time. We're gonna need him. And the Ravens are just the kind of team to build muscle from this disappointment.

I agree.

I could not be more pissed at how this game ended, but if nothing else, it's not like we are going to go out and get someone else.

We need him to not go into a funk as he is going to be an important player for the rest of the year.

[Sephy]

I hope M&T gives Mark Clayton a huge ovation next week. The poor guy's gotta be going through it. Any NFL WR makes that catch and any NFL WR drops one every once in a while. His screw up was just at the exact wrong time. We're gonna need him. And the Ravens are just the kind of team to build muscle from this disappointment.

Fat fucking chance on that one. He dropped 2 just key plays on that drive.

[EdReed4Prez]

How greedy we get... Before the season I wouldve been happy with a 3-3 record, 4-2 wouldve been great. We now have a legitimate shot at 5-1 and the lead in the division. Pick your heads up. Can't win them all.

[PARavensJeff]

Belichick PC on ESPNNEWS

[caliraven]

Fat fucking chance on that one. He dropped 2 just key plays on that drive.

That ball before on the fade wasn't a drop. The way that ended, from impending glory to crushing defeat, is hard to take. But, Clayton is a Raven. He's made plays. I'm sure Nobody is more miserable than him that he didn't make that one.

[Sephy]

Ray calls the officiating embarassing at his presser. Says Brady was laughing at the roughing calls. He was pissed. Suggs says the Ravens should just play 2 hand touch.

Harbaugh kept his mouth shut to avoid fines.

[Sephy]

Clayton: "I just dropped the ball. It's on me!"

Reed says the spots of the ball were ridiculous.

[Lee Van Cleef]

Ray calls the officiating embarassing at his presser. Says Brady was laughing at the roughing calls. He was pissed. Suggs says the Ravens should just play 2 hand touch.

Harbaugh kept his mouth shut to avoid fines.

Of course he was laughing. He got exactly what he knew he'd get, you don't hit the QB below the waist, he should know, it was because of him that the rule was made.

[PARavensJeff]

Harbaugh was hot the whole game - Reed was pissed the whole game too - I'm sure Harbs will get a letter on Tuesday + CBS may get a fine since the "BS" went out live on TV.

[RavenScallywag]

Suggs said we might as well be playing 2 hand touch football. Nice.

I'm liking our chances against a lot of teams, based on the way we played today. A few bounces here or there, we win this game. In previous years, we'd be LUCKY to get the shot we had.

[caliraven]

Of course he was laughing. He got exactly what he knew he'd get, you don't hit the QB below the waist, he should know, it was because of him that the rule was made.

I didn't think Suggs "hit" him. Looked like a grazing at most. The sickening calls-- on the Bodden int, clearly illegal contact (especially as compared to the Carr call). This missed call led to a point swing that became key.Bad stuff. There was also a blatant block in the back on a Brady run right in front of the Ravens bench. And when the hell does a coach get penalized for saying something was a BS call? Huh? And the spot on the fake FG.

We still shoulda taken it, but the officiating was horrid; but what's worse is that it was unbalanced.

[Lee Van Cleef]

This is why I don't buy that the team's mentality has changed. They go to the press after the game and complain, there were some shit calls yes, but there were some deserved ones too. When you play the game you don't stew on it to let it out in the PC, you go out there and use it as fuel to beat the living crap of the guy in front of you.

Harbaugh is starting to imposee himself on the team more, and I like that, but these guys need to get away from this petty stuff and look at the big picture.

[Sephy]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQexVe-bA4M&feature=channel_page

Serious emotion from Ray in this video.

[Raveninwoodlawn]

I don't like the public whining either.

We all saw it. No need to go on the podium and complain.

[Lee Van Cleef]

I do like that line by Ray though

"That ain't no personal foul if you still smiling"

[Rayvens52]

Of course he was laughing. He got exactly what he knew he'd get, you don't hit the QB below the waist, he should know, it was because of him that the rule was made.

That is BS man. Suggs fell to the ground and Brady walked into him, what is suggs supposed to do start rolling away from Brady so you don't touch him, this is football last time I checked. The refs did a poor job today as Flacco was crushed on may hits and no flag and we barely touch the golden boy and we get flags.

A loss is a loss and I'm fine with losing, but to try and justify those calls today is crazy. A defender has a right to make a play as well and if the player falls to the ground what the hell else is he supposed to do.

[GaRaven]

I know we all complain about the Mike Carey game.....

BUT over the years...how many games....BIG games does Ron Winter get and screw up....seems his games always have weird crap happen!!

[Lee Van Cleef]

That is BS man. Suggs fell to the ground and Brady walked into him, what is suggs supposed to do start rolling away from Brady so you don't touch him, this is football last time I checked. The refs did a poor job today as Flacco was crushed on may hits and no flag and we barely touch the golden boy and we get flags.

A loss is a loss and I'm fine with losing, but to try and justify those calls today is crazy. A defender has a right to make a play as well and if the player falls to the ground what the hell else is he supposed to do.

The fact is he took two or three steps forward whilst going down, he knows that hitting the QB around the knees is an injury. He also knows Hollywood Tom makes soccer players look like stalwarts, he could have gone to the side of Brady and avoided hitting him in the legs. That was what the rule was made for, to stop people going in at the knees when they can avoid it.

It's a shit rule, but it was applied correctly.

I've watched Pats games a lot the last few years, brady is always calling for and looking for flags, he whines and bitches to the refs, and he'll get his way in the end. It's disgraceful, but you have to know going in he'll do that.

[PARavensJeff]

What was up with Ray's eyes? I thought he was going to morph into that lizard in the SOBE commercial, that's what they looked like

[Sua Sponte]

The fact is he took two or three steps forward whilst going down, he knows that hitting the QB around the knees is an injury. He also knows Hollywood Tom makes soccer players look like stalwarts, he could have gone to the side of Brady and avoided hitting him in the legs. That was what the rule was made for, to stop people going in at the knees when they can avoid it.

It's a shit rule, but it was applied correctly.

I've watched Pats games a lot the last few years, brady is always calling for and looking for flags, he whines and bitches to the refs, and he'll get his way in the end. It's disgraceful, but you have to know going in he'll do that.

The key word here is avoid it, if you are going to the ground and barely touch the guy, i'm pretty sure he was avoiding it. If you watch the play I'm sure Suggs could have combined some of his many muscles to dive into the legs of Brady if that is what he was triing to do.