Vet #2 QB?

[pyite32]

Since Tyrod did not get to prove himself last night, if the Ravens elect to sign a Vet #2 QB after the cut downs tonight, who would you want?

My pick if released is the loser of the David Carr/Sage Rosenfels competition for the Giants

[HoustonRaven]

Maybe I missed something in the news but I didn't read where his injury was serious.

Stick with Tyrod. He proved he earned it last week.

[Ravenswintitle]

not much cap room anyway; stick with Tyrod

[pyite32]

Maybe I missed something in the news but I didn't read where his injury was serious.

Stick with Tyrod. He proved he earned it last week.

This is purely speculation Houston, personally I would feel better with a 3rd QB rather than a rookie backing up Flacco.

[HoustonRaven]

This is purely speculation Houston, personally I would feel better with a 3rd QB rather than a rookie backing up Flacco.

Of course it's speculation. Point?

You asked for what we thought. Tyrod had an amazing game against the Skins. It was the break out performance he needed to secure the job. I don't know how you can argue otherwise.

You may want to see a vet QB instead but it's rather obvious the team feels otherwise.

[chicagoravensfan]

If they can lure Bulger off the couch great. Otherwise roll with just Taylor. What is an awful QB like Brodie Croyle or David Carr do for us anyway?

[Rayvens52]

Of course it's speculation. Point?

You asked for what we thought. Tyrod had an amazing game against the Skins. It was the break out performance he needed to secure the job. I don't know how you can argue otherwise.

You may want to see a vet QB instead but it's rather obvious the team feels otherwise.

Exactly, and do you really think Chris Carr/Sage Rosenfels are that much better than Taylor. I understand wanting to have someone with experience, but those QB's you mention are lucky to still be in the league. As of now Taylor is the best option as the FA market is garbage.

[pyite32]

Of course it's speculation. Point?

You may want to see a vet QB instead but it's rather obvious the team feels otherwise.

I was just answering your statement "Maybe I missed something in the news but I didn't read where his injury was serious." That I didn't read anything different about his injury, just I think due to lack of playing time the team might pick someone up as insurance.

I am not sure it's obvious, there are no quality back ups out there now but there will be a couple after final cut downs. The Ravens have said all the right things to indicate they are comfortable with Tyrod as #2, but knowing them they would say the same things to the media no matter what unless he flat out wasn't going to make the team. I don't think him getting cut is a possibility, just that they might carry 3 QB's and Cantwell will certainly not be one of them.

[jefe96]

If they can lure Bulger off the couch great. Otherwise roll with just Taylor. What is an awful QB like Brodie Croyle or David Carr do for us anyway?

Exactly. Go with what you've got. There's nobody available who could have an impact except for Bulger and he's retired. If Flacco goes down then the season is pretty much over anyway. Do you really think Croyle or Carr could come in and win games if Flacco is down for an extended period of time??

[JAB1985]

I like what Tyrod brings. I have no worries about him backing up Flacco, and if necessary, he could win a few games for us. I honestly dont see a backup QB out there worth bringing in, unless Boller gets cut in Oakland just for nostalgia. I think theyll spend that money on a cut vet just not a qb.

[WxKevin]

Exactly. Go with what you've got. There's nobody available who could have an impact except for Bulger and he's retired. If Flacco goes down then the season is pretty much over anyway. Do you really think Croyle or Carr could come in and win games if Flacco is down for an extended period of time??

Croyle or Carr (or any other Vet out there now or after the 53-man cuts) could help after the first few games of the season. But by that point hopefully Tyrod is healthy. If Joe goes down in the first game against the Inbreds then we only have an outside chance of winning unless they can get Bulger to come in immediately and get in football shape. Just remember that the Inbred game is only 1 game of the season.

[13ravenfan]

I honestly dont see a backup QB out there worth bringing in, unless Boller gets cut in Oakland just for nostalgia.

:ralph: I don't think Kyle Boller buys us anything. Our playbook has changed since he left.

The only veteran that could help us in week 1 is Marc Bulger since he already is familiar with our playbook. Otherwise we have to bring someone in ASAP to give them 10 days to come up to speed in case they get called into service - against the STEELERS... I wouldn't wish that on anyone.

[Carey]

At this point i'd say just hold on to a roster spot, most likely the caliber of guys available now will be comparable to who'd be available in season if Flacco does get hurt.

[Knox Harrington]

they were going to bring a vet in anyway imho. Tyrod will be the 3rd qb this yr.

[trailhiker85]

Exactly, and do you really think Chris Carr/Sage Rosenfels are that much better than Taylor.


If Chris Carr were a better QB than Taylor then he'd be wasting his time playing cornerback.

:laugh:

Seriously though, as the preseason has worn on Tyrod Taylor has impressed me more and more. That said, I'm still not 100% convinced he's the best choice as our No. 2 in the short term. Unfortunately, I don't see any great options out there. Guess we'll see what the Ravens decide...

[PurpleRulz]

Go with Tyrod. If the worst happens then sign someone later.

[Rayvens52]

If Chris Carr were a better QB than Taylor then he'd be wasting his time playing cornerback.

:laugh:

Seriously though, as the preseason has worn on Tyrod Taylor has impressed me more and more. That said, I'm still not 100% convinced he's the best choice as our No. 2 in the short term. Unfortunately, I don't see any great options out there. Guess we'll see what the Ravens decide...

Didn't even see that, I copied and pasted from the OP, obviously David Carr :happy:

[Irish Raven]

Best out there are Delhomme or Sorgi

I'm happy to go with Taylor and would be fine if Bulger does a Kerry Collins and returns

[RavensNTerps]

Only concern is that even if the shoulder injury is minor if it's still hurting on 9/11 at all we literally have no one else to come in if Taylor can't finish the game.

But even Cantwell is a better option than Delhomme.

[HoustonRaven]

they were going to bring a vet in anyway imho. Tyrod will be the 3rd qb this yr.

I'll take that bet.

I cannot think of a bubble QB out there in danger of being cut from another team that would provide a better chance to win than Tyrod.

[RavenScallywag]

Only concern is that even if the shoulder injury is minor if it's still hurting on 9/11 at all we literally have no one else to come in if Taylor can't finish the game.


It was same way last year with Bulger. Only two QBs on roster.

We have guys who played QB in high school to trot out as emergency QB.

[RavensNTerps]

It was same way last year with Bulger. Only two QBs on roster.

We have guys who played QB in high school to trot out as emergency QB.

Not exactly. Tyrod Taylor has a hurt shoulder. That's why I said "depending how badly it's hurt."

It's his throwing shoulder.

[ActualSpamBot]

No it's not.


Tyrod Taylor's campaign to become the Ravens' No. 2 quarterback ended abruptly when he left at the end of the Ravens' second series with bruised left shoulder.

Taylor's a righty.

[HoustonRaven]

Per The Sun ....


It appeared as if Biermann's hit on Taylor on the second drive injured his nonthrowing shoulder.

[RavensNTerps]

Per The Sun ....

Fair enough, I thought they were working on his right shoulder but thinking back you are def right it was the left one.

Even so, carrying 2 QBs isn't a smart idea if one of them isn't 100%.

[WxKevin]

Fair enough, I thought they were working on his right shoulder but thinking back you are def right it was the left one.

Even so, carrying 2 QBs isn't a smart idea if one of them isn't 100%.

Agreed but we don't know that he won't be 100% by opening day. It's a "contusion" which means it is bruised. It's not like he dislocated his shoulder. Maybe he will be ready. I don't know but I am sure the same ones on this board who think they are better GMs than Ozzie also think they are Doctors and can help us out on how long it takes to heal.

[RavensNTerps]

Agreed but we don't know that he won't be 100% by opening day. It's a "contusion" which means it is bruised. It's not like he dislocated his shoulder. Maybe he will be ready. I don't know but I am sure the same ones on this board who think they are better GMs than Ozzie also think they are Doctors and can help us out on how long it takes to heal.

Right. We agree, I think.

I'm just saying that if he's 100% he should be our backup, if not it'd be a foolish game to go into carrying 2 QBs if one of them isn't fully ready to go.

[GOTA]

Now that he doesn't have to bother with camp I bet Bulger would be interested in returning for the right price.

[RavensNTerps]

Now that he doesn't have to bother with camp I bet Bulger would be interested in returning for the right price.

I bet he wouldn't. Nor would there be a right price. $4 million is too rich and why would he take less.

[Mista T]

If Flacco goes down then the season is pretty much over anyway.


I just can't buy into that line of thinking. That certainly would not be the case if Bulger came out of retirement.

===============================================



I cannot think of a bubble QB out there in danger of being cut from another team that would provide a better chance to win than Tyrod.

Sorry Houston, but I think you may have lost sight of reality in your exuberance. :laugh: I could come up with 1/2 dozen. Start with Rosenfels.

I am as excited as the next guy about Tyrod, IMHO the best looking rookie QB at this stage of development since Redmond or Andersen and, potentially, the best looking backup QB since Cunningham. But he's still just a rookie, prone to making rookie mistakes -- not the kind of emergency support we need with the starter injured and the game on the line.

[HoustonRaven]

Sorry Houston, but I think you may have lost sight of reality in your exuberance. :laugh: I could come up with 1/2 dozen. Start with Rosenfels.

Sage may be a better QB but I chose my words carefully in my previous post -- gives us a better chace at winning.

Any of your half dozen do not have the benefit of practicing with the team. You still have five more to go, btw. ;)

[NC Raven]

I just can't buy into that line of thinking. That certainly would not be the case if Bulger came out of retirement.
===============================================

Start with Rosenfels.

I am as excited as the next guy about Tyrod,... But he's still just a rookie, prone to making rookie mistakes -- not the kind of emergency support we need with the starter injured and the game on the line.

Agree with the above except maybe as to Bulger. I really liked what I saw of him in the preseason last year, but there were just as many people - including the always infamous "unnamed league sources" who said he was "shellshocked" and could not function in a real NFL game. I have no idea whether that's true; obviously the Ravens didn't buy it and neither did I, but who knows. anyway, if he's willing, I imagine nothing's changed on the Ravens' side of things, so I'd assume they'd take him on the right terms. I think they'll give him a good look after week 1 or whenever the cutoff is for not guaranteeing salary.

Other than him, my list is 2 QB's long: Rosenfels and Bouman. I'm not real excited about either of them, but I agree that Taylor is going to need time to develop and learn decision making at the NFL level. If he plays this year, expect a fair number of INT's. He had a 2-7 TD/INT ratio his first year as a regular starter at VT (switching with Sean Glennon at QB). He took off after that first season, but the adjustment to higher competition was rough; he'll catch on in time I believe, but to throw him out there this year I can't expect much better than what he did in college his first season.

He's already exceeded my expectations to this point; there's only so much more exceeding one guy can do in a short span of time. That said, I think it may be possible for a game plan to be developed that would allow him to manage a game in the near term against a weak opponent (only) and enable the team to pull out a W. That's a select few opponents though.