If Joe tanks down the stretch and still wants money, does John ask his bro about Smith?

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Originally Posted by wickedsolo

Give Flacco a better OL and I guarantee you that his overall performance will improve...and so will Rice's.

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Give Joe a better OL, give Joe better receivers, give Joe a better OC, give Joe a better QB coach, give Joe a bunch of money... and he will still be below average joe.

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Originally Posted by GOTA

If this team is rebuilding they don't need an older player like Alex Smith. That's what teams like the Raiders do and it never works out.

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Palmer is working out quite well for them.

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Originally Posted by Kevlar

Palmer is working out quite well for them.

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I'm sorry, the Oakland Raiders??

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Originally Posted by StingerNLG

I'm sorry, the Oakland Raiders??

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Well, here's something we agree on.

And that's not even bringing up what they gave up for Palmer.

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Originally Posted by Kevlar

Palmer is working out quite well for them.

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Um...are you serious?

Palmer is a turn-over machine.

He has singlehandedly blown about 4 games this year in OAK.

Alex Smith is worse than Flacco by a mile IMO. Dude was a #1 draft pick, and got his first decent coach a year ago to drag his ass just slightly out of the gutter. Talk about game manager.

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Originally Posted by webbrick2007

Give Joe a better OL, give Joe better receivers, give Joe a better OC, give Joe a better QB coach, give Joe a bunch of money... and he will still be below average joe.

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The only QB I have seen do anything with a crap OL is Ben Roethlisberger.

Even the great Tom Brady looks inconsistent behind a crap OL and facing an incredible pass rush. See Super Bowl, 2007.

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Originally Posted by Ravenswintitle

Look how many rookie QBs are winning now. With the pistol, spread, wildcat, zone read, etc its a different game. Need someone mobile

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Well watching Joe chase down that DB shows he has some wheels if needed. Maybe they should have him scramble more.

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Give Joe a better OL, give Joe better receivers, give Joe a better OC, give Joe a better QB coach, give Joe a bunch of money... and he will still be below average joe.

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Unfortunately this is the whole truth and nothing but the truth!

If you read Tony's article when he interviewed Bisciott and asked who is the biggest reason Ravens have been in POs last 4 years, without hesitating he said Flacco.

Tony said it took 5 mins for that to sink in.

Joe just shouldn't expect that full $17M from him at this point.