Gaining Knowledge from Ex Players -- Myth or Reality (from the "What Time is it?" thread)

[JoeCool5]

The Chargers having so many former Ravens on their roster makes me nervous. Many of them played here with Joe/Cam, and know our offense very well.

[leachisabeast]

The Chargers having so many former Ravens on their roster makes me nervous. Many of them played here with Joe/Cam, and know our offense very well.

One of the reasons I sadly picked us to lose this one.

Hopefully, I am wrong!

[HoustonRaven]

The Chargers having so many former Ravens on their roster makes me nervous. Many of them played here with Joe/Cam, and know our offense very well.

McClain, JJ and ....

[leachisabeast]

McClain, JJ and ....

Antwan Barnes and Carr....

[HoustonRaven]

So three? That's it?

Meh. Not worried about them.

In any event, its game day!!!!

[leachisabeast]

So three? That's it?

Meh. Not worried about them.

In any event, its game day!!!!

Four actually, if you count Gaither that's five, they will have enough input to reveal some of our weaknesses on both sides of the ball.

[HoustonRaven]

There's nothing they can reveal that the Chargers didn't already know last year.

That's an overhyped phenomenon.

[leachisabeast]

There's nothing they can reveal that the Chargers didn't already know last year.

That's an overhyped phenomenon.

Is that why teams like the Patriots and us go as far to sign guys to the PS that spent time with a familiar foe, then mysteriously cut them after playing them?

[HoustonRaven]

Carry over from the thread since it's a worthwhile discussion and I don't want it to hijack Fred's weekly tradition ....

[HKusp]

I think that they are already familiar with the offense seeing as how both teams run a version of the Coryell system. I know thy can get individual tendencies from watching film, what good is having some ex players over that? Not much in this instance in my opinion.

[Raveninwoodlawn]

The Chargers having so many former Ravens on their roster makes me nervous. Many of them played here with Joe/Cam, and know our offense very well.

LOL...so they know about the "ALL GO" vertical play?

Listen, few things are more overrated than former players playing a team...particularly when it comes to plays/game plans. Watching game film tells WAY more than a player telling a coach about plays from the previous year(s).

If the Chargers win today, it won't be because they got some inside info...it would be because Rivers lights up our secondary and our offense shits the bed on the road like they have done 3 and half times out of 5 now.

[JoeCool5]

They know tendencies, like what Joe does in the pocket after his first read breaks down, or how Rice runs, or how Torrey, Anquan and Co. run patterns. That's all I was trying to say. But if we lose, I agree with your last point about Rivers lighting us up and offense again shitting the bed on the road.

[Dade]

I think make too much about former players giving information to their new team.

[chicagoravensfan]

I know the Chargers are signing JJ's checks now, but do you think in his heart he's pulling for d-bags like Turner, Rivers and AJ Smith over his former team? I'm sure he'll go all out but I don't see him pulling out old playbooks to get one over on the Ravens when the Chargers season is over. McClain and Gaither seemed to harbor grudges but not sure how much intel they provide.

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[Raveninwoodlawn]

They know tendencies, like what Joe does in the pocket after his first read breaks down, or how Rice runs, or how Torrey, Anquan and Co. run patterns. That's all I was trying to say. But if we lose, I agree with your last point about Rivers lighting us up and offense again shitting the bed on the road.

Yeah...they can see all that watching game film.

[sailorsam]

iirc Gaither is injured reservist?
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/charger...5269--nfl.html

more worried about JJ's play than his espionage.

[JoeCool5]

Yeah...they can see all that watching game film.

Or they can recall what they saw in person during practices and games. Film isn't everything when it comes to scouting your ex-team.

[HoustonRaven]

Or they can recall what they saw in person during practices and games. Film isn't everything when it comes to scouting your ex-team.

JJ and Carr never played under Pees as DC so what can they offer there?

Gaither and McLain are two years removed from the team. Any info they can give they already gave last year.

This is a media creation and that's it. A coordinator will use 97% game film when scouting another team.

[JoeCool5]

I am referring to what guys like JJ and Carr saw in practice against our offense regarding our offensive players' tendencies. The fact that they didn't play under Pees is irrelevant. I agree film is the go-to for studying an opponent, but ex-players also know their teammates' tendencies they can share in game planning. I am sure I am making too much of this, but it will be interesting to see how it plays out.

[Cj34]

The biggest worry to me is not the ex-players....it's Norv Turner vs Cam. He should be able to read Cam like a book (since he runs Norv's offense basically) and we all know how Cam's ability to adjust is about as fast as molasses going uphill.