4th and 1 in 3rd with 34 seconds

**darthpemo** · 11-26-2012, 09:14 AM

Originally Posted by RavensNTerps

I love that people think having Rice in the game on that 4th down and 1 would have changed the outcome.

I agree with you. The chargers had it diagnosed and were in the backfield. Rice would not have changed that reality. The play called sucked. I don't mind going for forth and 1 - but until we consistently win the LOS battles- I think this was a terrible call.

**Gabe** · 11-26-2012, 10:00 AM

Originally Posted by ravenjoe

More importantly, run to your strength - the play should have been run to the Ravens strong side! They had their 'muscle' on the left, and chose the right....bad move!!

This. Remember, Flacco checked out of the original play and ran the ball away from the strong side blocking.

**B-more Ravor** · 11-26-2012, 12:40 PM

Originally Posted by Cj34

Wally Williams summed it up perfectly this morning on 105.7. The reason the Ravens can't sneak the ball is because the sneak is all dependent on OL push. If you're running a QB sneak behind your center and the center is not getting any push what so ever (even getting pushed backwards) then your sneak will never be successful.

Birk has been a warrior and overachiever for his entire career, but he's definitely on his last legs.

**The Excellector** · 11-26-2012, 01:53 PM

This one might have actually been on Flacco. After thinking about it, it seems like the sneak was on. However, when Flacco saw the LBs crowd up for it, he checked out, into option B. Now, option B sucked, because if you are going to run anything in that situation outside of the seam, you need Rice in the game. If you are going to run it up the gut, which might have been the original call, you use Pierce.

Personally, I would have went for the sneak again and was convinced that they were thinking the same.

So, either the original call was a sneak that Flacco checked out of, or a run up the gut, in which case, he correctly checked out of it, but with an even worse plan B call.

**ravenjoe** · 11-26-2012, 03:03 PM

Flacco's mistake was Not going to where his strength was, and that was to the Left side of the line!

**The Excellector** · 11-26-2012, 03:04 PM

Originally Posted by ravenjoe

Flacco's mistake was Not going to where his strength was, and that was to the Left side of the line!

If that's where it was originally supposed to go.

**Dirt1** · 11-26-2012, 03:09 PM

The problem with that play wasn't that Pierce was in the game. The problem was that SD got way too much penetration into the backfield against the right side of the Ravens OL. I thought that the run blocking overall yesterday was average to poor. I saw KO, Birk, and Reid getting beat regularly.

**chicagoravensfan** · 11-26-2012, 10:09 PM

Eagles just ran a verrry similar play on 4th and inches with similar results. That was...uncomfortable.

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**Tucker: M&T Sec 527** · 11-26-2012, 10:18 PM

Originally Posted by Ravenswintitle

I wanted them to go for it but I didn't like the play call and Rice should be in the game. the QB sneak, if Flacco would've gotten low he may've gotten it. Honestly they could've just ran that again on 4th.

Always take the points on the road, especially the way this team plays on the road. It sure looked like Joe made a bad read and audibled for Leach to move to the right side and run the play to the right, where there was a mismatch in numbers between our blockers/receivers and the SD Defense. We ran it to the wrong side and too wide.

**Tucker: M&T Sec 527** · 11-26-2012, 10:22 PM

Originally Posted by the excellector

this one might have actually been on flacco. After thinking about it, it seems like the sneak was on. However, when flacco saw the lbs crowd up for it, he checked out, into option b. Now, option b sucked, because if you are going to run anything in that situation outside of the seam, you need rice in the game. If you are going to run it up the gut, which might have been the original call, you use pierce.

i agree.