Terrence Cody looks better

**leachisabeast** · 11-27-2012, 04:25 AM

Since the BYE and after a dismal game @ Houston, Cody has quietly improved his game. Cody has been really solid in run defense. Against the Chargers (he had 18 snaps to Kemos 26) it seemed like the Chargers were only gaining 2 or 3 yards on the ground, but when Kemo was in at NT, Matthews was pounding it for 4 or 5 yards.

I don't really call out Harbaugh that often, but what the hell is he doing insisting on starting Kemo every week? It's clear he doesn't have it anymore, and hasn't had one good game this year, he consistently gets over powered by guards and centers.

**Filmstudy** · 11-27-2012, 05:57 AM

Originally Posted by leachisabeast

Since the BYE and after a dismal game @ Houston, Cody has quietly improved his game. Cody has been really solid in run defense. Against the Chargers (he had 18 snaps to Kemos 26) it seemed like the Chargers were only gaining 2 or 3 yards on the ground, but when Kemo was in at NT, Matthews was pounding it for 4 or 5 yards.

I don't really call out Harbaugh that often, but what the hell is he doing insisting on starting Kemo every week? It's clear he doesn't have it anymore, and hasn't had one good game this year, he consistently gets over powered by guards and centers.

Leach, I know the above was meant as a generalization, but the Ravens allowed 8 for 34 (4.3 YPC) with Cody in and 11/30 (2.7 YPC) with Kemo in. Like you, I also noticed Cody made a couple of good plays, including 2 in a row beginning (Q4, 11:02). Kemo also contributed a MT on that horrible 7-yard run by Matthews.

**leachisabeast** · 11-27-2012, 06:08 AM

Originally Posted by Filmstudy

Leach, I know the above was meant as a generalization, but the Ravens allowed 8 for 34 (4.3 YPC) with Cody in and 11/30 (2.7 YPC) with Kemo in. Like you, I also noticed Cody made a couple of good plays, including 2 in a row beginning (Q4, 11:02). Kemo also contributed a MT on that horrible 7-yard run by Matthews.

That really surprises me, but maybe it was just a coincidence. Thanks for the info, but I still think at this point, Cody is the better option as the starter.

Reading your defensive notes, like you, I thought Arthur Jones was our most impressive Dlineman on the day.

**wickedsolo** · 11-27-2012, 06:32 AM

I doubt anyone would disagree that Art Jones has been coming on strong the past couple of games. He seems to be hitting his stride.

He was without a doubt the best defensive player against San Diego.

**GOTA** · 11-27-2012, 06:34 AM

Cody is going to have a tough time becoming a real NFL starter. There's just something missing with him.

**wickedsolo** · 11-27-2012, 06:42 AM

Originally Posted by GOTA

Cody is going to have a tough time becoming a real NFL starter. There's just something missing with him.

Technique.

Just watch him play. He plays ridiculously high, which isn't surprising considering he's almost 6'5". A 350lb man staying low is a lot to ask. Other guys like Wilfork and BJ Raji are able to play with a much lower base because they're both 3-4 inches shorter than Cody. Another thing I've noticed is that he doesn't use his hands very well either. I was watching the Green Bay/NY Giants game and I was really impressed with how fast Raji's hands were. Linemen had trouble getting their hands on him consistently because he was constantly slapping their hands away and getting his hands on their pads. Wilfork is just kind of a freak of nature because even though he is a bowling ball, he has ridiculously quick feet.

At this point, Cody really just needs someone to teach him better technique because it is very easy for centers and guards to just get up under his pads, drive them into his throat, and then drive him back off the LOS. He's huge and that was why he dominated in college, but in the pro's he needs to learn technique.

**Ravenswarrior19** · 11-27-2012, 07:15 AM

Originally Posted by wickedsolo

Technique.

For years, I think all our D Lineman benefited by practicing alongside Kelly Gregg, who played with some of the best leverage and technique you will ever see. If a coach ever needed a living example of how to stay low, you could just watch Kelly. I know Haloti credited a lot of his early progression and quick learning curve having Kelly around.

Our younger guys this year, especially in the early games, were looking terrible with high hips, bad hand placement, not protecting their legs, etc. Things have been improving lately.

I'm still holding out hope for Cody. If he can really LEARN his craft, he will be a force. He has the athleticism for it, and bodies like his don't come along everyday. But he's gotta LOVE to work on his game.

**leachisabeast** · 11-27-2012, 07:17 AM

Cody can be a starter in this league, his height doesn't help, but go watch tape on him since Cleveland, he has really started to improve his game. He's certainly an upgrade over kemo if anything.

**Section 502 Raven** · 11-27-2012, 07:22 AM

watching NFL rewind yesterday it looked like komeateau was getting bulldozed 3 to 4 yards off the ball.

**ravenjoe** · 11-27-2012, 07:43 AM

Originally Posted by GOTA

Cody is going to have a tough time becoming a real NFL starter. There's just something missing with him.

Yea, imho, he needs to turn that FLAB into Muscle, and start hitting the weight room in earnest!

**leachisabeast** · 11-27-2012, 08:07 AM

Originally Posted by ravenjoe

Yea, imho, he needs to turn that FLAB into Muscle, and start hitting the weight room in earnest!

Nonsense. Terrence Cody is in just as good shape as any NT in the league, and has been living in the gym since we drafted him. Size or shape is not the concern with him, it's more on his height and technique that's the issue, as Wicked pointed out, but I think he can overcome those issues.

**NCRAVEN** · 11-27-2012, 08:12 AM

Originally Posted by leachisabeast

Nonsense. Terrence Cody is in just as good shape as any NT in the league, and has been living in the gym since we drafted him. Size or shape is not the concern with him, it's more on his height and technique that's the issue, as Wicked pointed out, but I think he can overcome those issues.

He didn't say he was not in shape, he said he needs to turn the flab into muscle. Maybe kinda like Ngata. I think that would be great if he could get stronger and leaner.

**leachisabeast** · 11-27-2012, 08:15 AM

Originally Posted by NCRAVEN

He didn't say he was not in shape, he said he needs to turn the flab into muscle. Maybe kinda like Ngata. I think that would be great if he could get stronger and leaner.

Can you tell me the body difference between Casey Hampton and Terrence Cody? Nose tackles will never look lean, and aren't supposed to.

**ravenjoe** · 11-27-2012, 08:15 AM

I look at those arms, and they are pure flab. He might be living in the gym, but it sure does not look it. I would be curious to know how his reps compare with others on the team. He needs push at his position, which requires strength, and, yes, skill and technique. But if he has 'marshmallow' arms, he is not going to be very effective. Just my opinion, of course.

**leachisabeast** · 11-27-2012, 08:16 AM

Originally Posted by ravenjoe

I look at those arms, and they are pure flab. He might be living in the gym, but it sure does not look it. I would be curious to know how his reps compare with others on the team. He needs push at his position, which requires strength, and, yes, skill and technique. But if he has 'marshmallow' arms, he is not going to be very effective. Just my opinion, of course.

Yeah Vince Wilfolk really has defined arms doesn't he?

**AirFlacco** · 11-27-2012, 08:18 AM

We need him bad and we need Jimmy to improve. Ozzie recently
said if the young ones don't improve our D will never be as good
as it used to be.

Good to see Cody improving to take the heat off Ngata.

**NCRAVEN** · 11-27-2012, 08:18 AM

Originally Posted by leachisabeast

Can you tell me the body difference between Casey Hampton and Terrence Cody? Nose tackles will never look lean, and aren't supposed to.

Yeah, I can tell a difference between the two. Both are big and "fat" but Cody is flabby, Hampton is not.

**ravenjoe** · 11-27-2012, 08:18 AM

Originally Posted by leachisabeast

Can you tell me the body difference between Casey Hampton and Terrence Cody? Nose tackles will never look lean, and aren't supposed to.

You don't need to look lean, but you sure as hell better be strong and tough!

**ravenjoe** · 11-27-2012, 08:21 AM

Originally Posted by leachisabeast

Yeah Vince Wilfolk really has defined arms doesn't he?

The bottom line is, how strong is Vince. I would bet dollars to doughnuts (no pun intended) that Vince is a much stronger NT than is Mr. Cody.

**PerpetuallyBored74** · 11-27-2012, 08:48 AM

Originally Posted by ravenjoe

The bottom line is, how strong is Vince. I would bet dollars to doughnuts (no pun intended) that Vince is a much stronger NT than is Mr. Cody.

You'd win that bet.

Combine or Pro Day Results

Terrence Cody: 225 Lb. Bench Reps: 22
Vince Wilfork: 225 Lb. Bench Reps: 36
Casey Hampton: 225 Lb. Bench Reps: 34
B.J. Raji: 225 Lb. Bench Reps: 33
Haloti Ngata: 225 Lb. Bench Reps: 37

Source: http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft