FILMSTUDY: Breaking down the Offensive Line performances v. Chargers

**wickedsolo** · 12-01-2012, 05:17 PM

Originally Posted by Ravenswintitle

those guys get rid of the ball in 3 seconds; that's a big part of why the Oline looks better.

Which would point at the OC and scheme ...no? ;-)

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**bmorecareful** · 12-01-2012, 05:26 PM

Even though each of our linemen outside of Yanda has struggled terribly in a lot of one-on-one matchups this year, I see the more serious problem as scheme and coaching rather than pure talent level.

When you have an uneven OL, you need to find a way to scheme around your weaknesses. If the left side of your line is bad, you slide a lot of protections to that side and have backs and TEs chip out of the backfield. If your interior line is bad, you move the pocket and run behind tackle. And so on and so on... but this line can't do that.

It's very hard for this team to do that. They don't have a "good side" and "bad side." Yes, Yanda is a good RG, but Osemele misses too many blocks and struggles with speed rushers too much for the Ravens to rely on that side to hold up. Oher is only passable at LT and isn't really demonstrating consistent improvement at all. Even with their deficiencies at OT, their interior is too weak to be relied on as Birk is having by far the worst year of his career and LG hasn't stabilized yet.

The Ravens desperately need to find some way to stabilize at least one element of their OL in a big way. I don't know if the personnel exists for them to do that at this point, as there's nobody better than the 5 they're fielding right now. Osemele should improve at RT, Reid has the potential to hold down the LG spot and possibly improve. Even assuming those two improve you'll still have problems.

Next year, if they could just improve at ONE position, C or LT, it could cascade all the way down. Of course, next year doesn't help us right now...

**Ravenswintitle** · 12-01-2012, 05:31 PM

Originally Posted by wickedsolo

Which would point at the OC and scheme ...no? ;-)

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Certainly that's part of it but their Pre snap reads are a big part also IMO. That's. why they do all of the pointing and posturing to force the defense to show its hand

**wickedsolo** · 12-01-2012, 05:52 PM

Originally Posted by Ravenswintitle

Certainly that's part of it but their Pre snap reads are a big part also IMO. That's. why they do all of the pointing and posturing to force the defense to show its hand

I thought that was all for show?

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**Ravenswintitle** · 12-01-2012, 05:57 PM

Originally Posted by wickedsolo

I thought that was all for show?

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Rharris is that you?

**wickedsolo** · 12-01-2012, 06:31 PM

Originally Posted by Ravenswintitle

Rharris is that you?

Haha, oh come on now. Im not a Cam fan at all, but I still want them black birds to win.

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**Terpsfan82** · 12-01-2012, 07:19 PM

Originally Posted by Ravenswintitle

Certainly that's part of it but their Pre snap reads are a big part also IMO. That's. why they do all of the pointing and posturing to force the defense to show its hand

I agree. But you also get better pre-snap reads by using motion, which forces the defense to tip its hand.

**AirFlacco** · 12-01-2012, 09:24 PM

Originally Posted by wickedsolo

Problem is none of the TE's can block.

That's usually the case as it was with Heap.

**AirFlacco** · 12-01-2012, 09:26 PM

Originally Posted by Tspot-D-Ravenator

Osemele had so much trouble with Barnes... He was a turnstile at times and he can't handle the speed rushers

Neither can Oher. Film has said as much in
other reports.

**PerpetuallyBored74** · 12-01-2012, 10:19 PM

Originally Posted by AirFlacco

That's usually the case as it was with Heap.

Heap was a better blocker though, too bad he was already done at 30.

**landspeed** · 12-01-2012, 10:31 PM

Originally Posted by PerpetuallyBored74

Heap was a better blocker though, too bad he was already done at 30.

What are you talking about already done?

His last year here was on pace to be one of his best ever.

600 yards, 5 TDs, 13 games

**PerpetuallyBored74** · 12-01-2012, 10:38 PM

Originally Posted by landspeed

What are you talking about already done?

His last year here was on pace to be one of his best ever.

600 yards, 5 TDs, 13 games

Exactly, he wasn't done BEFORE 30, but at 30. That was his last good season. And he was already showing signs of breaking down physically, that's why the Ravens didn't try to resign him.

**leachisabeast** · 12-01-2012, 10:41 PM

Pitta's main problem is his size. He's one of the better receiving tight ends in the league, but needs to add some muscle if he ever wants to be a better blocker. Pitta will never be a great all around TE if he doesn't improve his blocking.

**iggyman555** · 12-02-2012, 12:36 AM

how come FILM never posts here anymore?????????????

**Filmstudy** · 12-02-2012, 01:37 AM

Originally Posted by iggyman555

how come FILM never posts here anymore?????????????

Iggy, I am still here. My general philosophy on posting is:

1. I'll always try to respond if someone is clearly asking me a question or wants clarification, unless it's a thinly-veiled "who-the-hell-do-you-think-you-are?" question.

2. If folks want to post opinions, whether contrary or in agreement, I generally won't respond. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, and they should be able to make it. Like anyone who posts on a board, there is gratification in response, because it means someone read what you wrote.

3. There might be times, and now happens to be one, where the discussion here gives me an idea for the next article. I don't want to respond then, because it would be a spoiler.

4. Don't take my lack of participation as an indication that I don't enjoy reading this board. It's the first source for information and opinion I look at whenever I sit down at my computer.

**jonboy79** · 12-02-2012, 03:29 PM

I for one would rather have both Solder and Vollmer over Oher...

**jonboy79** · 12-02-2012, 03:32 PM

Originally Posted by leachisabeast

Pitta's main problem is his size. He's one of the better receiving tight ends in the league, but needs to add some muscle if he ever wants to be a better blocker. Pitta will never be a great all around TE if he doesn't improve his blocking.

one of the better?? might be a bit of an exaggerrtation. I like Pitta, don't get me wrong, but I wouldn't put him anywhere near the top echelon of TE's in this league. I think he would be a nearly ideal 2nd TE. Unfortunately for us,Dickson is worse.