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**leachisabeast** · 12-02-2012, 06:47 PM

Both the Steelers corners have actually been playing really well this year, they are just unknown players. If you watch tape on them, even Cortez Allen has been having a better year than Ike Taylor whenever he's came in as the nikel corner.

Flacco played terrible tonight, but the play calling was most of the time so bad, although I liked the use of PA, looked a little Texan like at times.

**Lime in the Coconut** · 12-02-2012, 06:47 PM

I've been saying this for the last two-three seasons. You really have to wonder just how good we could be with an actual OC.

I seriously, 100% believe that if we fired Cam right now, we would only get better. He is terrible, his schemes are terrible, he makes no adjustments, he's a moron. Ray Rice again just 12 carries? And most in predictable, uncreative ways. Unbelievable. Granted, Joe wasn't great, he was pretty mediocre, but you can't blame him for hanging onto the ball. NO ONE IS OPEN. The OL isn't bad folks, it's the effing scheme, no one's ever open, not utilizing the middle, etc. But hey, just getting to the playoffs is fine.

**StingerNLG** · 12-02-2012, 06:48 PM

Originally Posted by Raveninwoodlawn

Not a fan of Cam, and he certainly didn't do a ton to help, but when you have a QB that was jittery all game and missed a ton of throws, I don't know how much you can expect.

I'm honestly shocked Joe played like he did.

Maybe I was seeing it different than you guys and the TV, but Joe only missed one or two throws. I counted 7 dropped passes, and a phantom sack that wasnt.

The gameplan was garbage. The middle of the field was virtually unused by us. Everything was straight down the field or on the sideline. Joe holds the ball so long because he doesn't have a short route recevier to throw too.

I'm not dropping my issue with the refs today too. They changed game momentum and made multiple bad calls.

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**Raveninwoodlawn** · 12-02-2012, 06:48 PM

Originally Posted by scbgirlxo

I'm saying.... we aren't going anywhere with this offense. I'm leaving it at that.

For all the crap the offense is taking...20 points should have been enough to win.

Joe and the offense gave them 7, but the rest of it was just the Steelers completely taking advantage of our ILB's in pass coverage. McClain and McClellan are awful against the pass...probably the worst in the league.

**SeattleRaven** · 12-02-2012, 06:49 PM

Originally Posted by RavenusMaximus

Lots of blame to go around. Cam and Flacco included.

Simply put, the team lacked energy and was unprepared in a big game. This seems to be a constant theme with this 2nd rate coaching staff. They do not make game timw adjustments and Harbs should be sent back to special teams. Cam could not run a high school offense. I have been saying for the last three years that the Ravens will never even go to a Super Bowl with the current coaching staff.

**landspeed** · 12-02-2012, 06:50 PM

Originally Posted by kojo

exactly...i know this loss sucks but chill fellas.

Right, theyll just work the kinks out and we wouldnt see it anymore.

Something like this has never happened to this team, we wont see it again.

**Raveninwoodlawn** · 12-02-2012, 06:50 PM

Originally Posted by StingerNLG

Maybe I was it different than the TV, but Joe only missed one or two throws. I counted 7 dropped passes, and a phantom sack that wasnt.

The gameplan was garbage. The middle of the field was virtually unused by us. Everything was straight down the field or on the sideline. Joe holds the ball so long because he doesn't have a short route recevier to throw too.

I'm not dropping my issue with the refs today too. They changed game momentum and made multiple bad calls.

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Oh no...at least in the first half, he was high on quite a few short passes.

And he underthrew Torrey on deep balls where he had his man beat at least 3 times...whether he caught it or not may be up for debate.

**rharris1986** · 12-02-2012, 06:50 PM

The Manning brothers are going to eat this team alive. Ravens have an excellent chance of going 9W 7L.

If they even get to the playoffs they will be one and done.

Originally Posted by lowrider

And while you're at it, fire Pees. You can't give any QB the kind of time that Batch had in the 2nd half. We had zero pass rush, and a stupid late hit by Kruger in a crucial situation. Incredible!

**landspeed** · 12-02-2012, 06:51 PM

Originally Posted by Raveninwoodlawn

For all the crap the offense is taking...20 points should have been enough to win.

Joe and the offense gave them 7, but the rest of it was just the Steelers completely taking advantage of our ILB's in pass coverage. McClain and McClellan are awful against the pass...probably the worst in the league.

Forget the fact that emmanuel sanders gave us 7 points and flacco gave them a retarded interception and a fumble

**ravenray** · 12-02-2012, 06:52 PM

Originally Posted by rharris1986

The Manning brothers are going to eat this team alive. Ravens have an excellent chance of going 9W 7L.

If they even get to the playoffs they will be one and done.

anytime they can improve their draft postion means less chance for the FO to screw up.

**StingerNLG** · 12-02-2012, 06:53 PM

Originally Posted by Raveninwoodlawn

Oh no...at least in the first half, he was high on quite a few short passes.

And he underthrew Torrey on deep balls where he had his man beat at least 3 times...whether he caught it or not may be up for debate.

Except when Torrey just stops in the middle of the field and turns around.

I know he threw high to Torrey in the first half, but it was not a lot. Not that it matters, short passes were at a premium.

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**landspeed** · 12-02-2012, 06:53 PM

Originally Posted by ravenray

anytime they can improve their draft postion means less chance for the FO to screw up.

Now youre going over board, we have a very good FO

**leachisabeast** · 12-02-2012, 06:54 PM

Originally Posted by rharris1986

The Manning brothers are going to eat this team alive. Ravens have an excellent chance of going 9W 7L.

If they even get to the playoffs they will be one and done.

I seriously don't understand why you even post here.

**Dade** · 12-02-2012, 06:56 PM

Originally Posted by rharris1986

The Manning brothers are going to eat this team alive. Ravens have an excellent chance of going 9W 7L.

If they even get to the playoffs they will be one and done.

Seriously you only show up when the ravens lose. Not sure why you haven't been banned yet.

**SeattleRaven** · 12-02-2012, 06:56 PM

Originally Posted by kojo

exactly...i know this loss sucks but chill fellas.

It is easy to tell everyone to chill but this was a statement game especially playing against a 3rd string Qb that was beaten by Cleveland last week. The team was totally umprepared and Harbaugh was horrible with his game decision making. Hasn't this been a common theme the last four years? Yeah, they make it to the playoffs each year under Harbs but he just does not have championship caliber head coaching ability.

Manning is going to pick this defense apart in two weeks as Pees is a complete moron with his soft defensive schemes. Cameron is predictable and should be canned at the end of the year when the Ravens are once again knocked out in the first or second round of the playoffs. I am just saying that this has been the pattern.

**wickedsolo** · 12-02-2012, 06:57 PM

Originally Posted by Raveninwoodlawn

For all the crap the offense is taking...20 points should have been enough to win.

Joe and the offense gave them 7, but the rest of it was just the Steelers completely taking advantage of our ILB's in pass coverage. McClain and McClellan are awful against the pass...probably the worst in the league.

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**Raveninwoodlawn** · 12-02-2012, 07:01 PM

I wanted to add...in addition to the ILB's...I know Ed finally got his INT in the 4th, but he was jumping routes all day and leaving guys open behind him.

Originally Posted by StingerNLG

Except when Torrey just stops in the middle of the field and turns around.

I know he threw high to Torrey in the first half, but it was not a lot. Not that it matters, short passes were at a premium.

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He threw at least 5-6 deep balls to Torrey over the course of the night...at least 3 are completions if they aren't under thrown...2 probably TD's.

Originally Posted by leachisabeast

I seriously don't understand why you even post here.

I don't understand either. He's really becoming a Ravens fan who is trolling a Ravens board...everything is constant negativity and "woe is us".

**wickedsolo** · 12-02-2012, 07:04 PM

Someone just posted in another thread that Boldin called Cam out for not using the middle of the field.

Anyone else hear/see that?

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**Kevlar** · 12-02-2012, 07:11 PM

Originally Posted by wickedsolo

I cannot stand the Coryell offense.

They should call it the air el Camino, because the last time it worked people were still driving them.

Although the Aussies still make a pretty sweet one. Saw it on topgear. Maloo R8.