Minus Oakland--6 Offensive Td's in Last 5 Games...

**LC_Ravens_87** · 12-04-2012, 07:44 AM

The numbers don't lie. Whatever mojo the offense had early in the year has evaporated during this middle third of the season. Big plays in the passing game have dried up, and the offensive efficiency has been terrible. Ravens are now 22nd in 3rd down conversion % and 28th in penalties.

So here is the question--

Do we want to see the no huddle again which was at least putting up lots of points early in the season?

Do we want them to double down on the 2008 & 2010 style offense and just run the **** out of the ball with power I, unbalanced lines, etc?

**Paintballguy** · 12-04-2012, 07:47 AM

IMO, they should commit to the no huddle offense and let Flacco do his thing. It doesn't make any sense to run a no huddle almost the whole game then not run it at all in another game. Also, running a no huddle doesn't mean Rice shouldn't get the ball. Rice is great running out of the shotgun formation. Plus, Rice should be getting a heavy dose of designed screens and short passes.

**Captain Silver** · 12-04-2012, 07:49 AM

There is a photo of the Raven's unbalanced line in a museum somewhere.

**NCRAVEN** · 12-04-2012, 07:50 AM

You guys are making too much sense.

However, with the news about Suggs, I wouldn't expect to see it this week as they don't want the D on the field with their biggest edge setter most likely on the sideline RGlll will have filed day.

**kronusthebonus** · 12-04-2012, 07:55 AM

Realistically, we should be 6-6. KC, Dallas and San Diego all should have been L's with the way the team has played. This team gets to 10-6 out of sheer luck.

**Ravenswintitle** · 12-04-2012, 07:55 AM

I was impressed how creative Kyle Shanahan was in their offense last night; constantly mixing it up. Kyle freakin Shanahan!

I know he has RGIII but still. Ravens should be able to mix things up; play up tempo in the first half then go to ground and pound. Do something to keep the D off balance

**Paintballguy** · 12-04-2012, 07:57 AM

Originally Posted by Ravenswintitle

I was impressed how creative Kyle Shanahan was in their offense last night; constantly mixing it up. Kyle freakin Shanahan!

I know he has RGIII but still. Ravens should be able to mix things up; play up tempo in the first half then go to ground and pound. Do something to keep the D off balance

It's frustrating. We've all seen how dynamic the Ravens' offense can be, and we've all seen how bad the offense can be. We really need a coordinator that can adjust if things aren't working as expected.

**Derf** · 12-04-2012, 08:16 AM

After watching the Redskins offense last night and comparing it to ours lately, I felt like that guy on the Browns video "it's like they're playing a different sport" than we are. No, I don't expect Flacco to run the option but it'd be nice to see a few designed plays where he rolls out of the pocket. Is that too much to ask?

**LC_Ravens_87** · 12-04-2012, 08:17 AM

Originally Posted by Ravenswintitle

I was impressed how creative Kyle Shanahan was in their offense last night; constantly mixing it up. Kyle freakin Shanahan!

I know he has RGIII but still. Ravens should be able to mix things up; play up tempo in the first half then go to ground and pound. Do something to keep the D off balance

With Garcon back, that Offense is deadly. They literally run versions of the same 3 plays all game, but RGIII is such a threat, that the deception will kill you. So tough for an LB to determine if it's the stretch, the keeper or pass. They just wear you out.

As for the Ravens, I vote for ground and pound. Pierce has shown he is legit and Ray Rice is Ray Rice. That's the strength of the team. Use it. Alot.

**festivus** · 12-04-2012, 08:58 AM

How many if you "minus" the game @ PIT instead of OAK?

"The numbers don't lie," indeed.

**B-more Ravor** · 12-04-2012, 09:00 AM

Originally Posted by Captain Silver

There is a photo of the Raven's unbalanced line in a museum somewhere.

They did actually use it several times Sunday - unfortunately, with little success.

**JohnBKistler** · 12-04-2012, 09:03 AM

Originally Posted by Ravenswintitle

I was impressed how creative Kyle Shanahan was in their offense last night; constantly mixing it up. Kyle freakin Shanahan!

How did that offense look when it played the Steelers?

**NCRAVEN** · 12-04-2012, 09:04 AM

Originally Posted by B-more Ravor

They used it several times Sunday, with little success.

I think that is because of the predictability of what's going to happen when we use it.

Yeah I know players have to execute, but the defense gets paid too. Why not go unbalanced and do a play action bootleg or something?

This isn't 1960 we can't just line up go nose to nose and hope to get consistent results. (BTW - no directed at you Ravor, I know you were just pointing something out)

**NCRAVEN** · 12-04-2012, 09:05 AM

Originally Posted by JohnBKistler

How did that offense look when it played the Steelers?

Two words.

Dick. Lebeau.

**bensmotorcyclehelmt** · 12-04-2012, 09:15 AM

Offense is predictable. Torrey deep, Quan across the middle, keep Pitta and Rice in to max protect, chuck it deep for a PI call.

Maybe I'm romanticizing it a bit in my mind, but it seems like Cam was more creative when Flacco was a rookie.

IMO, the solution is easy.

Give the ball to one of the best players in the NFL! Rice needs the ball EVERY first and second down to make 3rd down short and mangeable.

THEN you get Flacco and the supporting cast involved and send Torrey deep.

Of note, This offense was much better when Torrey was running something other than a 9 route EVERY PLAY. Remember the preseason and first 6 weeks of the season? Torey was sticking his foot in the ground, and coming back for the ball making corners look like fools. The Ravens need to get back to that.

**LC_Ravens_87** · 12-04-2012, 09:22 AM

Originally Posted by B-more Ravor

They did actually use it several times Sunday - unfortunately, with little success.

I haven't rewatched the game yet, but I do believe they used 1 play action pass with that formation in the 1st half and it was a success. But your broader point, that every time McKinnie comes in they generally don't execute, is true.

**NCRAVEN** · 12-04-2012, 09:22 AM

Originally Posted by bensmotorcyclehelmt

Of note, This offense was much better when Torrey was running something other than a 9 route EVERY PLAY. Remember the preseason and first 6 weeks of the season? Torey was sticking his foot in the ground, and coming back for the ball making corners look like fools. The Ravens need to get back to that.

How about the routes across the field against San Deigo where he than ran for big gains afterwards..

**wickedsolo** · 12-04-2012, 09:23 AM

Originally Posted by bensmotorcyclehelmt

Offense is predictable. Torrey deep, Quan across the middle, keep Pitta and Rice in to max protect, chuck it deep for a PI call.

Maybe I'm romanticizing it a bit in my mind, but it seems like Cam was more creative when Flacco was a rookie.

IMO, the solution is easy.

Give the ball to one of the best players in the NFL! Rice needs the ball EVERY first and second down to make 3rd down short and mangeable.

THEN you get Flacco and the supporting cast involved and send Torrey deep.

Of note, This offense was much better when Torrey was running something other than a 9 route EVERY PLAY. Remember the preseason and first 6 weeks of the season? Torey was sticking his foot in the ground, and coming back for the ball making corners look like fools. The Ravens need to get back to that.

I think you would not necessarily be wrong for thinking that there was more creativity when Flacco was a rookie. I think that was because they had to get creative.

Also, their OL his rookie year was pretty damn good. Their defense was also still a top tiered D.