Thread: Ravens 23rd in rushing.
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12-04-2012, 07:29 PM #1
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This stat alone shows you why Cam must go. We have a top 3 running back in the league along with an explosive rookie who as far as I know looks as though he could rip off a huge everytime he gets his hands on the football.plus a top 3 guard in the NFL...yet we're 23rd. We should be top five with our talent. Numbers don't lie.
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Re: Ravens 23rd in rushing.
And a big ass FB who is the best lead blocker in the league bar none. We need to get back to our 08-09 ground and pound style baby! Draft some big Olinemen and run the fuck over everyone, make Rex Ryan the OC when he gets fired lol.
But seriously, we need to get back to running the ball more effectively IMO. We need to improve the trenches next season.
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12-05-2012, 01:44 AM #3
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Re: Ravens 23rd in rushing.
I just saw that we're 22nd in attempts - and the Falcons are the only team below us with a winning record (they seem to enjoy close contests as well).
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12-05-2012, 02:32 AM #4
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Ray Rice is ranked as the 13th most attempts in the NFL. WTF

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12-05-2012, 03:01 AM #5
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Re: Ravens 23rd in rushing.
Wow good to know, agree with everything here. Maybe Cameron is saving rice for the playoffs? I'm tired of Cameron's ( or harbaughs) idea that we we need to transition with the rest of the league in the passing game. I agree to an extent but then why are the patriots who have one of the best passing attacks running the ball more and more as the season goes on? Stick with the bread and butter, run the ball run play action and roll outs. IMO we don't have the offensive scheme to become pass heavy. Receivers can't get separation, routes are too long, o line too inconsistent Etc etc
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12-05-2012, 06:28 AM #6
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12-05-2012, 07:26 AM #7
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In fairness there's been a lot of games rices running hasn't been getting it done for a number of reasons. But you still need balance, saying we are 22 in attempts mean nothing. We have dropped back to pass 463 times, and ran 297. That's a 60 40 split.
We are not a pass heavy team as people like leach would lead you to believe. We run almost 25 times a game on average, dropping back to pass 39.
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12-05-2012, 08:00 AM #8
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Nah, this stat HAS to be wrong!
Harbs guaranteed RavensNation that the Ravens were going to get back to their physical style of running the ball before season's start, so that stat is definitely wrong!! Since he also guaranteed that he was going to get more involved in the Offense, I don't believe this statistic!"Grab those pusillanimous sons-a-bitches by the nose and kick 'em in the balls.." General George S. Patton
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12-05-2012, 08:54 AM #9
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this alone is just beyond me, you sign yanda to a long term deal, you get biggest and best FB in game and you have diddle diddle up the middle and you are 23rd in rushing the ball??? Cam and Moeller should not only be fired but put on a boat in the middle of the ocean and targeted by a valkarie rocket.
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12-05-2012, 09:36 AM #10
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12-05-2012, 11:20 AM #11
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Re: Ravens 23rd in rushing.
I think that one of the factors in that stat is our TOP. You can't rush a lot if you're never on the field.
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Sometimes they do. Or sometimes we're just basing conclusions off of the wrong set of numbers.
I would also prefer to see them run the ball more often and more effectively, but I'm not sure it's fair to conclude Rice is underutilized. Top ten players ranked by total yards from scrimmage...
Code:RK NAME/TEAM TOT YDS YDS/GM RUSH YDS YDS/GM REC. YDS YDS/GM 1 Adrian Peterson, Min 1641 136.8 1446 120.5 195 16.3 2 Doug Martin, TB 1480 123.3 1106 92.2 374 31.2 3 Calvin Johnson, Det 1428 119.0 0 0 1428 119.0 4 Marshawn Lynch, Sea 1287 107.3 1138 94.8 149 12.4 5 Ray Rice, Bal 1281 106.8 872 72.7 409 34.1 6 Jamaal Charles, KC 1255 104.6 1055 87.9 200 16.7 7 C.J. Spiller, Buf 1246 103.8 907 75.6 339 28.3 8 Arian Foster, Hou 1239 103.3 1102 91.8 137 11.4 9 Chris Johnson, Ten 1188 99.0 993 82.8 195 16.3 10 Brandon Marshall, Chi 1182 98.5 0 0 1182 98.5
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12-05-2012, 01:12 PM #13
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12-05-2012, 01:14 PM #14
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If we want to pass the ball a lot we should have spent the money in that area.
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12-05-2012, 02:19 PM #15
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Re: Ravens 23rd in rushing.
Your right, but when Rice or Pierce gains 6-7 on 1st down, run it again or come up with something short across the middle, not bombs away every time it is 2nd and short. I've noticed that Cam is so predictable that when it is 2nd and within 4 he calls a deep pass quit often. That is the obvious pass play from a 2nd and short. Gruden "2nd and short, I wouldn't be surprised to see a deep shot here on 2nd and short Jaws, Torrey Smith can really fly" It's almost every time and it is low percentage and when that fails it is almost automatic pass on 3rd and short, which is warranted, but it is much easier to cover when you know it's coming "quick out route" Just get the MF'ing 1st down and keep driving. Run the damn ball or a short pass to the TE. Cam does exactly what is scripted, 2nd and short (pass deep) 3rd and short (quick out). That is pee wee football coaching..
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Hmmm. Seems like only yesterday Cam's insistence on running the ball was the reason he had to go...
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12-05-2012, 06:26 PM #18
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Run-Pass doesn't matter. The Ravens have the players to be effective at either. But lately seem to effective at neither.
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12-05-2012, 07:17 PM #19
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Don't whitewash our justified criticism of Cam.
It wasn't that in some games he runs the ball too much.
It's that in some games he stubbornly sends Ray and Bernard right up the middle again and again even AFTER the opposing D has caught on and adjusted to stop that play--perfect example is the 2nd Browns game.
Cam's problems are his awareness and adjustments.
He seems to have little of the first so he rarely makes the second.
Boldin to Cam: "the middle of the field is open"
Cam: "Really?"
This after the Texans, Browns & Steelers games where the middle of the field had also been open.
But for Cam to send a WR not named Boldin over the middle of the field, especially short on a slant or crossing pattern, more than once or twice in a game REGARDLESS OF HOW THE OTHER D IS SET UP TO PLAY HIS O, so even if it would work, at least UNTIL THE OTHER D WOULD BE FORCED TO ADJUST TO STOP IT...no sorry, NOT CAM'S STYLE BABY!!
That's the problem with Cam: he doesn't seem to understand the concept of finding something that works and sticking with it until it doesn't, then once it stops working, adjusting and switching to something else that may work (and if it doesn't, keep adjusting until you find something that works again).
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12-06-2012, 06:42 AM #20
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They need to give Pierce the ball more.
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