Norv Turner, Welcome to Baltimore

**bmorecareful** · 12-06-2012, 04:57 PM

http://http://profootballtalk.nbcspo...th-and-turner/

Norv Turner fired in San Diego per PFT, along with GM AJ Smith.

Ozzie, get a handshake deal with this guy in place RIGHT NOW.

**Paintballguy** · 12-06-2012, 05:06 PM

Sign him ASAP

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**Sua Sponte** · 12-06-2012, 05:07 PM

Norv is Cam 2.0.
No Thanks

**Captain Silver** · 12-06-2012, 05:13 PM

I once thought this, but the Air Coryell needs to be junked right out of the NFL along with its disciples.

**leachisabeast** · 12-06-2012, 05:15 PM

AC offense, will produce slightly better results, nothing major though. This isn't the 90's anymore.

**Benny8444** · 12-06-2012, 05:21 PM

wont be much of an upgrade over Cam. I belive Cam was Norv's OC in San Diego at one point

**RavensQB** · 12-06-2012, 05:21 PM

Just watch this Dribble and wellllllll

http://www.baltimoreravens.com/video...8-03b1eed8035c

**CptJesus** · 12-06-2012, 05:22 PM

Fact of the matter is, how many proven offensive coordinators are there? With Norv, we get a system we're already familiar with and an oc who is proven. At the very least it'll be an improvement on what we have.

I doubt that the Ravens are going looking for new ocs with no experience or track record

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**bmorecareful** · 12-06-2012, 05:25 PM

The Air Coryell offense absolutely can work in the NFL. Bruce Arians runs a Coryell variant offense, Peyton Manning runs a Coryell variant offense, as does Atlanta, Dallas, New Orleans, and others. The Kurt Warner Rams ran a Coryell variant as well to some success. Possibly the greatest NFL offense of all time.

The problem is not the Coryell specifically, but rather Cam Cameron's version of it... which has not grown or changed AT ALL with the times. Cam is running Don Coryell's offense, but his proteges have adapted it and made it modern.

The best thing about signing Norv is that the terminology and general system is the same, so it would be a smooth transition. It's just infinitely more modern and complex.

**Ravenswintitle** · 12-06-2012, 05:27 PM

Lets face reality here; it would be a major upgrade. Yes it's a flavor of the same system but Norv did wonders with it in some places where he was the OC. Who else is out there?

Do it

**landspeed** · 12-06-2012, 05:27 PM

It seems to me a lot of the people around here who want Cam gone want Norv here instead?

Come on, they are the same person. They have the same offense, same philosophy.

We need to move AWAY from this philosophy as a whole.

**leachisabeast** · 12-06-2012, 05:30 PM

I want the WCO variant with power run. That can't really happen until next season because we don't have the players upfront right now, but ball controlled, dinky throws, and time of possession is the key or this team IMO.

**ActualSpamBot** · 12-06-2012, 05:37 PM

Originally Posted by landspeed

It seems to me a lot of the people around here who want Cam gone want Norv here instead?

Come on, they are the same person. They have the same offense, same philosophy.

We need to move AWAY from this philosophy as a whole.

You literally have no idea what you're talking about. I mean, by your theory Arizona (32nd ranked offense) and New England (Number 1 ranked offense) are the same team because they both run the WCO.

It's about more than just the system, it's about how the coach designs and implements that system.

**RavensQB** · 12-06-2012, 05:37 PM

Originally Posted by landspeed

It seems to me a lot of the people around here who want Cam gone want Norv here instead?

Come on, they are the same person. They have the same offense, same philosophy.

We need to move AWAY from this philosophy as a whole.

Ask Emmit Smith how he liked Norv Turner....

**Terpsfan82** · 12-06-2012, 05:42 PM

Cam isn't going anywhere.

**Dade** · 12-06-2012, 05:45 PM

Cam's weakness is not the system. It's his inability to adjustment and his lack of creative play calls that has held this offense back.

In that regard, Norv is an improvement.

**landspeed** · 12-06-2012, 05:46 PM

Originally Posted by RavensQB

Ask Emmit Smith how he liked Norv Turner....

Emmit Smith had the absolute best Oline of all time.

Without that Oline he doesnt come close to the rushing record

Originally Posted by ActualSpamBot

You literally have no idea what you're talking about. I mean, by your theory Arizona (32nd ranked offense) and New England (Number 1 ranked offense) are the same team because they both run the WCO.

It's about more than just the system, it's about how the coach designs and implements that system.

Im going by the play calling Ive seen from the chargers(conservative) and im going by the complaints of the fanbase that have very similar complaints we do.

I literally "do" have an idea what im talking about.

**Derf** · 12-06-2012, 05:46 PM

I'm for anybody that can get Joe to move out of the pocket and throw the ball away when everybody is covered or run downfield. If Norv Turner is THAT guy then.....good.