Norv Turner, Welcome to Baltimore

**Sua Sponte** · 12-06-2012, 05:50 PM

Originally Posted by RavensQB

Just watch this Dribble and wellllllll

http://www.baltimoreravens.com/video...8-03b1eed8035c

Wow that was horrible... How does this guy think his team is going to take him seriously. How did take a question about Rice not getting the ball in the 4th to we have to convert on 3rd down. Well let's see him Cameron, if Rice is banging 6-7 yard runs on 1st down then that just might increase your ability to get a 1st down. This guy is a an idiot. Blah Blah Blah....
If it was to take Norv now to finish the season I would say go for it and see how he does, granted it wont all be apples silver and gold with the adjustments but they could get a look at some potential.

**landspeed** · 12-06-2012, 05:53 PM

Originally Posted by Sua Sponte

Wow that was horrible... How does this guy think his team is going to take him seriously. How did take a question about Rice not getting the ball in the 4th to we have to convert on 3rd down. Well let's see him Cameron, if Rice is banging 6-7 yard runs on 1st down then that just might increase your ability to get a 1st down. This guy is a an idiot. Blah Blah Blah....
If it was to take Norv now to finish the season I would say go for it and see how he does, granted it wont all be apples silver and gold with the adjustments but they could get a look at some potential.

I really dont get the people who defend keeping cam for the rest of the season.

Our offense cannot possibly get any worse.

Outside of the Raiders game, our offense has been horrible since... the cowboys game? Week *6.

**RavensQB** · 12-06-2012, 05:54 PM

Originally Posted by landspeed

Emmit Smith had the absolute best Oline of all time.

Without that Oline he doesnt come close to the rushing record

Im going by the play calling Ive seen from the chargers(conservative) and im going by the complaints of the fanbase that have very similar complaints we do.

I literally "do" have an idea what im talking about.

LOL..... just because you know what your talking about means jack squat. He seems to think he knows what he is talking about also. See Below.

CAM IDIOT.jpg

**landspeed** · 12-06-2012, 05:58 PM

Originally Posted by RavensQB

LOL..... just because you know what your talking about means jack squat. He seems to think he knows what he is talking about also. See Below.

CAM IDIOT.jpg

Please, explain to me where I am wrong.

The fanbase hates Norv turner because hes been conservative, doesnt use ryan matthews enough and their Oline is horrible.

**rharris1986** · 12-06-2012, 06:01 PM

Tell me that after they implode in DC on Sunday.

Meant to quote the guy who said Cam isn't going anywhere - NOT this response to it.

Originally Posted by Derf

buzz kill

**RavensQB** · 12-06-2012, 06:04 PM

Originally Posted by landspeed

Please, explain to me where I am wrong.

The fanbase hates Norv turner because hes been conservative, doesnt use ryan matthews enough and their Oline is horrible.

Take your pick from about 20 of these. Mr Brady fan.

http://russellstreetreport.com/forum...earchid=149962

**bacchys** · 12-06-2012, 06:08 PM

I'm not in favour of getting Norv after Cameron. He might be an upgrade, but it won't be by much.

I'd rather see us find a younger up-and-coming OC who is going to want to take risks to make a name for himself. It'll be Harbaugh's job to keep the risks reasonable. I don't think we have that tension between the OC and the HC right now.

Billick as the OC in Minnesota was aggressive and creative. After finally coming to realization that he didn't have the pieces in Baltimore to do that in 2000, he never looked back. As HC, he never went back to that. A huge part of our problem on offense during his tenure, imo, was his trying to wear two hats and never letting any of his OC's really push the talent on the field.

**Ravenswintitle** · 12-06-2012, 06:08 PM

Originally Posted by RavensQB

Ask Emmit Smith how he liked Norv Turner....

he worked wonders for Aikman there also

**bacchys** · 12-06-2012, 06:10 PM

Originally Posted by Ravenswintitle

he worked wonders for Aikman there also

Then he blew chunks in Washington, ruining Shuler's career in the process.

**landspeed** · 12-06-2012, 06:10 PM

Originally Posted by RavensQB

Take your pick from about 20 of these. Mr Brady fan.

http://russellstreetreport.com/forum...earchid=149962

That leads to nothing.

And also, Brady fan, really? Is that supposed to be an insult?

Am I not supposed to like him because Im a ravens fan?

Originally Posted by Ravenswintitle

he worked wonders for Aikman there also

Troy Aikman threw for over 20 TDs in a season 1 time. He is possibly one of the most overrated QBs of all time.

Straight from the mouth of a San Diego fan from another forum I just found:

Question should be, what's not wrong with Norv Turner. He's way worse than Cam Cameron. Guy doesn't adapt to defensive schemes. Predictable on offense. Sure he's had success with deep passes, TE plays and screens, but once people figure him out he can easily be out coached.

**RavensQB** · 12-06-2012, 06:16 PM

Originally Posted by landspeed

That leads to nothing.

And also, Brady fan, really? Is that supposed to be an insult?

Am I not supposed to like him because Im a ravens fan?

Troy Aikman threw for over 20 TDs in a season 1 time. He is possibly one of the most overrated QBs of all time.

**HoustonRaven** · 12-06-2012, 06:22 PM

Originally Posted by landspeed

It seems to me a lot of the people around here who want Cam gone want Norv here instead?

Come on, they are the same person. They have the same offense, same philosophy.

We need to move AWAY from this philosophy as a whole.

Umm. No.

Cam is a Norv wanna be. There is nothing in Cam's game that's like Norv.

Cam can claim all he wants he has and AC system in place, but he hasn't fielded a true AC offense since his one year in Miami.

The AC offense is a great counter to the zone blitz and since we see that defense twice every year, it only makes sense.

**Ravenswintitle** · 12-06-2012, 06:23 PM

Originally Posted by bacchys

Then he blew chunks in Washington, ruining Shuler's career in the process.

Lol shuler seriously? You can't polish a sneaker.

By the way, Spanos is denying these reports and saying he will evaluate at the end of the year. So Norv has not been fired, at least for now

**landspeed** · 12-06-2012, 06:33 PM

Originally Posted by HoustonRaven

Umm. No.

Cam is a Norv wanna be. There is nothing in Cam's game that's like Norv.

Cam can claim all he wants he has and AC system in place, but he hasn't fielded a true AC offense since his one year in Miami.

The AC offense is a great counter to the zone blitz and since we see that defense twice every year, it only makes sense.

Question should be, what's not wrong with Norv Turner. He's way worse than Cam Cameron. Guy doesn't adapt to defensive schemes. Predictable on offense. Sure he's had success with deep passes, TE plays and screens, but once people figure him out he can easily be out coached.

Take it from us Charger fans. Stay the fuck away from Norv Turner.

straight from a chargers fan, with just about all of them backing him up.

I guess Im making it up though.

**HoustonRaven** · 12-06-2012, 06:38 PM

Originally Posted by landspeed

straight from a chargers fan, with just about all of them backing him up.

I guess Im making it up though.

I don't think the opinion of Chargers fans helps your cause.

And stop with the drama. Nobody accused you of making anything up. It's a message board. People disagree on message boards. It's not personal.

**Ravenswintitle** · 12-06-2012, 06:38 PM

Was his screen name rharris?

**Raveninwoodlawn** · 12-06-2012, 06:43 PM

I like Norv better than Cam, but I also think that if some of you think he is going to come here and bring anything innovative, you are mistaken.

I find it funny that nobody here is putting any blame on Norv for Rivers decline...despite Rivers still being in the age range of a QB's prime in today's NFL. When Vincent Jackson and Antonio Gates stopped dominating other teams secondaries, Norv hasn't been able to get the same production. IMHO, some of Rivers apparent decline has to be laid at the feet of Norv.

IMHO, we should go after an offensive coach from the Shanahan/Kubiak coaching tree...Shanahan was a master of creating and taking advantage of matchups.

**landspeed** · 12-06-2012, 06:44 PM

Originally Posted by HoustonRaven

I don't think the opinion of Chargers fans helps your cause.

And stop with the drama. Nobody accused you of making anything up. It's a message board. People disagree on message boards. It's not personal.

With that logic, our opinion helps nothing and we dont know what were talking about. We, as fans, are completely clueless.

**HoustonRaven** · 12-06-2012, 06:49 PM

Originally Posted by landspeed

With that logic, our opinion helps nothing and we dont know what were talking about. We, as fans, are completely clueless.

Well, is that far from the truth?

Fans, by and large, don't know what's going on with the team. We can argue X's and O's pretty factually, but int terms of the inner working of any team, it's all a guess.