Draft / FA / Offseason Roster Moves (Merged)

**jaydee414** · 02-09-2013, 03:58 AM

What's the status of RayRay Armstrong? He was very well regarded as a player at Miami a couple of years ago, then dismissed and enrolled at something called Faulkner University (NAIA), declared ineligible there and now.....?

**leachisabeast** · 02-09-2013, 06:00 AM

Aaron Wilson said we could be 5 million over the cap now, maybe it was him who told Shefter that. I really don't understand where that figure is coming from, Ravor pretty much broke everything down. Are people reading Ravors cap estimation articles and misreading it or something? He clearly says 5 million UNDER the cap, not OVER.

**wickedsolo** · 02-09-2013, 09:13 AM

Originally Posted by jaydee414

What's the status of RayRay Armstrong? He was very well regarded as a player at Miami a couple of years ago, then dismissed and enrolled at something called Faulkner University (NAIA), declared ineligible there and now.....?

He won't be drafted.

However, I'd definitely like to see him be a high priority UDFA.

**arnie_uk** · 02-09-2013, 01:15 PM

I trade back for a second and fourth, draft jones, then trade out third our fourth and sixth for an early second taking minter, then on our original second take Williams from Missouri.

With the fourth we traded for take chris Faulk potential left tackle from Lsu, with a fourth comp pick take a tight end like Escobar, with two fifth comps grab Mathieu, and some more oline depth.

With a sixth comp look maybe at some more bodies at linebacker, and then in the seventh take a fullback.

Great dline rotation of ngata, Williams, Cody, jones, McPhee, and art jones. Minter starts from day one alongside the resigned ellerbe.

Jones and boldin both extended cutting down their cap numbers. Reed resigned, McKinnie resigned on heavily incentive laden deal. Kruger is gone, Cary gone, leach cut, pitta and art jones RFA get long term deals reducing their number a bit as well.

**The Excellector** · 02-09-2013, 01:15 PM

Keeping Ray Rice and Benard Pierce gives your offense versatility. You can control the clock, run out of single back, I and do a little of what St. Louis used to do in their time. There's no need to address the issue for, at least, another two years.

**The Excellector** · 02-09-2013, 01:17 PM

While I have not given up on Terrance Cody, I would really like to see them draft a Nose Tackle. If they could get a Nose Tackle to take the double team, with the talent on this defense, the front could cause serious problems. You can only double, but so many players. Once you double the NT, you'll be lucky if you can still double Ngata and you'd have to keep a back or TE in to chip on Suggs. Upshaw would see one on one all day. As a supporting player to Suggs, I think Upshaw could get 7-10.

**bmorecareful** · 02-09-2013, 01:39 PM

Originally Posted by The Excellector

While I have not given up on Terrance Cody, I would really like to see them draft a Nose Tackle. If they could get a Nose Tackle to take the double team, with the talent on this defense, the front could cause serious problems. You can only double, but so many players. Once you double the NT, you'll be lucky if you can still double Ngata and you'd have to keep a back or TE in to chip on Suggs. Upshaw would see one on one all day. As a supporting player to Suggs, I think Upshaw could get 7-10.

The guy I'm hot on right now is Brandon Williams out of Southern Missouri, who we would be taking in the 2nd. He's a NT in the NFL but he can also play 5-tech DE/DT and 4-3 DT. Very versatile and a great run stopper, but he also broke a ton of D-II sack records as a pass rusher. He's basically everything Cody isn't, except he played at a small school instead of Alabama.

**alien bird** · 02-09-2013, 01:41 PM

Originally Posted by The Excellector

While I have not given up on Terrance Cody, I would really like to see them draft a Nose Tackle.

I think they do need to strengthen the interior defensive line, but I think they can find a legitimate player in the mid rounds. Unless one of those big studs falls to them in the first, there may be no reason to move around to get one. Guys like Akeem Spence, Kwame Geathers, or Sylvester Williams are probably going to be available in rounds 3-5. They are not the impact players of the highly regarded 1st round guys, but they are still going to most likely make an impact in the NFL.

**Lime in the Coconut** · 02-09-2013, 01:58 PM

I've seen these guys listed as 3rd-4th rounders... The two injured bookends at FSU, Brandon Jenkins and Tank Carradine. Jenkins looks like he could be a good fit in the 3-4 at 6'3 260 yet I realize he's had his injury issues. However, he looks pretty explosive and elusive off the edge. Carradine is more of a 43 end at 6'5 265, but he totaled 11.5 sacks before tearing his ACL. I've wondered if they would make for a good steal (mainly Jenkins) in rounds 2-4?

**bmorecareful** · 02-09-2013, 02:05 PM

Originally Posted by Lime in the Coconut

I've seen these guys listed as 3rd-4th rounders... The two injured bookends at FSU, Brandon Jenkins and Tank Carradine. Jenkins looks like he could be a good fit in the 3-4 at 6'3 260 yet I realize he's had his injury issues. However, he looks pretty explosive and elusive off the edge. Carradine is more of a 43 end at 6'5 265, but he totaled 11.5 sacks before tearing his ACL. I've wondered if they would make for a good steal (mainly Jenkins) in rounds 2-4?

Brandon Jenkins would be a really nice pick in the 3rd or 4th. He is a GREAT player. Honestly if he would have gone back to school this year and come out in 2014 he'd probably be a high 1st rounder. The injury issue is going to drive his stock way below what it ought to be.

**runrayrun27** · 02-09-2013, 02:06 PM

Originally Posted by Lime in the Coconut

I've wondered if they would make for a good steal (mainly Jenkins) in rounds 2-4?

Maybe a 4th, anything before that I think is too big of a risk. I really want to see S/ILB and LT addressed in the first 3 rounds, but with Ozzie and his BPA philosophy, you never know

**wickedsolo** · 02-09-2013, 02:38 PM

Originally Posted by bmorecareful

The guy I'm hot on right now is Brandon Williams out of Southern Missouri, who we would be taking in the 2nd. He's a NT in the NFL but he can also play 5-tech DE/DT and 4-3 DT. Very versatile and a great run stopper, but he also broke a ton of D-II sack records as a pass rusher. He's basically everything Cody isn't, except he played at a small school instead of Alabama.

I think his game is very similar to BJ Raji.

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**wickedsolo** · 02-09-2013, 02:39 PM

Originally Posted by bmorecareful

Brandon Jenkins would be a really nice pick in the 3rd or 4th. He is a GREAT player. Honestly if he would have gone back to school this year and come out in 2014 he'd probably be a high 1st rounder. The injury issue is going to drive his stock way below what it ought to be.

Agreed.

He and Carradine would be solid picks in the 3rd or 4th rounds.

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**Lee Van Cleef** · 02-09-2013, 02:54 PM

I'm wonder, if Minter is gone if it might not be worth trading back if possible, and taking Arthur Brown. And possibly that safety out of FIU in RD 2 or 3. Hearing some really good things about him.

**alien bird** · 02-09-2013, 03:04 PM

Originally Posted by Lee Van Cleef

I'm wonder, if Minter is gone if it might not be worth trading back if possible, and taking Arthur Brown. And possibly that safety out of FIU in RD 2 or 3. Hearing some really good things about him.

Jonathan Cyprian is the safety you're talking about. He got a lot of press at the Senior Bowl (the talking heads player de jour) and is rising fast up the draft boards.

I was watching the Fiesta Bowl to get a look at Arthur Brown vs. Oregon's speed and he struggled a bit. Maybe just an off game for him, but I was more impressed with Kiko Alonso from Oregon. He has a lot of speed and a good nose for the ball. Maybe a nice 4th round pick (if he lasts to the end of that round).

**landshark52** · 02-09-2013, 03:14 PM

What do all of you think the stock of Da'rick Rogers from Tennessee Tech is? He has a lot of talent and reminds me of a faster Anquan Boldin. The problem is his baggage from getting kicked off the Tennessee football team, but I could see him being a great weapon form Flacco if he gets off the dope.

**bmorecareful** · 02-09-2013, 03:26 PM

Originally Posted by landshark52

What do all of you think the stock of Da'rick Rogers from Tennessee Tech is? He has a lot of talent and reminds me of a faster Anquan Boldin. The problem is his baggage from getting kicked off the Tennessee football team, but I could see him being a great weapon form Flacco if he gets off the dope.

I am definitely a big fan. He's my favorite "big" WR in the class, and I'd place him among the top 5 or so WRs on pure talent. His draft stock is very volatile, though. I don't think he goes higher than the 2nd but he could go as late as the 4th.

If he drops... I could see the Ravens taking a swing on him as long as his background, etc. come out clean enough for them to be interested. He is VERY talented, and I think he compares favorably to a young Anquan Boldin. Definitely a good successor.

**alien bird** · 02-09-2013, 03:27 PM

Originally Posted by landshark52

What do all of you think the stock of Da'rick Rogers from Tennessee Tech is? He has a lot of talent and reminds me of a faster Anquan Boldin. The problem is his baggage from getting kicked off the Tennessee football team, but I could see him being a great weapon form Flacco if he gets off the dope.

I've liked the production potential of Da'Rick Rogers for some time. Questionable off-field stuff, but if he is there in round three I think he's a steal. But he's also a high-risk, high-reward kind of guy. If you watch some of his game tape, he's a tough sombitch and isn't afraid to go over the middle.

A lot of the draft is going to depend on what happens in the next two months concerning free agency, but I would have him on my radar.

**wickedsolo** · 02-09-2013, 03:28 PM

Originally Posted by landshark52

What do all of you think the stock of Da'rick Rogers from Tennessee Tech is? He has a lot of talent and reminds me of a faster Anquan Boldin. The problem is his baggage from getting kicked off the Tennessee football team, but I could see him being a great weapon form Flacco if he gets off the dope.

1st round talent. Grade-A knucklehead.

Do you have any idea how much of a dumbass you have to be to get booted from Tennessee? I mean, that takes some serious doing.
Still, when it is all said and done I think he is the best overall receiver in this draft class. Size, decent speed, excellent YAC ability, and nice routes.

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**landshark52** · 02-09-2013, 03:36 PM

I feel like the Ravens should kind of take an approach like the Packers by getting as many weapons as possible for Flacco. I mean James Jones is their fourth wideout and the majority of teams would have loved to have Jones to be their number 2. I believe between rounds 2 and 3 there are a lot of opportunities for this with wideouts that have a lot of talent like Rogers, Patton, Wheaton, and Bailey. I also think they could grab a quick slot receiver later like Bumphis or Ace Sanders.