Draft / FA / Offseason Roster Moves (Merged)

[Paintballguy]

Yes to Tavon Austin; but no way the Pats stay away from him.


And no to DHB and Moss.



If I were Jets GM I'd happily take the dead money this year over Butt fumble. But that's just me.

I think the Jets will tank this season which will lead to Rex getting canned. Then, they'll dump buttfumble and company and start over with a new coaching staff.

[The Excellector]

I'll never forget the year that Heyward Bey and Crabtree were drafted. Crabtree is sitting in the green room with every bit of obscenely shiny piece of jewelry you could wear with a suit. He's grinning from ear to ear, thinking about the money he's going to make from the Raiders. You could just tell.

When the pick was announced, ESPN went to a split screen with Heyward Bey on the left and Crabtree on the right.

Heyward Bey's face showed the look of: "Oh no, not the Raiders!!"

Crabtree's face showed the look of "Fuck!! My money!!!".

[The Excellector]

I think the Jets will tank this season which will lead to Rex getting canned. Then, they'll dump buttfumble and company and start over with a new coaching staff.

Are you implying a calculated plan to hold off the full rebuilding process until a better crop of QBs come out in the draft?

[The Excellector]

Cobb is the man. And Jordy can straight up play. The GB passing game will be just fine. Not sure why you are hating on their WR core. Plus Rodgers makes everyone look better.

James Jones drops as many passes as Ed Dickson.

[Paintballguy]

Are you implying a calculated plan to hold off the full rebuilding process until a better crop of QBs come out in the draft?

No it won't be intentional. They will just suck this year which IMO will lead to Rex getting canned and them possibly drafting another QB.

[bt12483]

James Jones drops as many passes as Ed Dickson.

Yet still had 14 TDs. He improved on his drop issues. I think your opinion of Jones is outdated.

[wickedsolo]

Are you implying a calculated plan to hold off the full rebuilding process until a better crop of QBs come out in the draft?

The Jets should draft someone and bench Sanchez. Cut him next year.

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[NC Raven]

Are you implying a calculated plan to hold off the full rebuilding process until a better crop of QBs come out in the draft?

Implying that the Jets have a calculated plan to hold off on their rebuilding implies that the Jets actually have a plan.

And we all know they don't.

So I think it's safe to say that's not what he was implying!

[alien bird]

I really like Armstead as a sleeper

In the age of the internet and 24/7 coverage of everything related to the draft, there is rarely a sleeper. That being said, I like Armstead as well.

[alien bird]

I actually mentioned David Bass in my full Ravens mock from a while back. I had the Ravens grabbing him in the 6th round.

I had him in the 5th in mine. I really like the potential versatility of that guy.

[Justlovemybirds]

The fastest pulling tackle you'll ever see

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUXt6Y1AoII

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3D6tAJCiUs

Another project.
Terron Armstead, LT, Arkansas Pine-Bluff.
6'5 305 with an oddly thin lower trunk. Room for lots of poundage.
Quick. Fast. Very nice feet. Sub 4.8 40???
Much better pass pro than run blocking.
Nasty only every now-and-then, but there are plays in the links above where he just creams guys. Should be doing that constantly at the FCS level IMO. Seems to use his hands well, but needs to work on that bend and leg drive.

Armstead generated a bit of buzz at the Senior Bowl, it was good to see him hold his own against the big boys.

[leachisabeast]

Maualuga was nowhere near the player T'eo is.

And T'eo being mocked? How could you possibly know that? How do you know this locker room wouldnt accept him because he is a good player?

John Harbaugh loves players who face and overcome adversity dude.

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Debatable on Mualuga, I remember a bunch of people wanting to draft him, and thought he was great at USC. He just wasn't a hyped up as Te'o was, and I said at times he looks like him, not overall.

Did you see what Torrey Smith tweeted? That's what I'm on about, plus several other players around the league have publicly let their opinions known on this matter. Harbaugh can bring him in and have a soft spot for him, but that isn't going to change the players opinion on him.

[leachisabeast]

Also - see RavenInWoodlawn's post a few pages back. Ogletree and Minter both underperformed against Alabama. And Arthur Brown was nonexistent against Oregon in their bowl game.

But only T'eo has had a bad game or two and that's why he wont be a good player. Right?

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Minter or Ogletree didn't have nearly as bad as a game that Te'o had. Go watch the games on both again.. Yes there were times when Minter looked out of place, but he didn't get blown out of the way like Te'o did. Ogletree had an overall decent game against bama, and he made a few plays, like the goal line stand.

Arthur Brown actually played decently vs Oregon, and collected 9 tackles, wasn't really non existent at all. He was spending most the night covering up for his other players mistakes from what I could see.

I still would be pretty happy with Te'o as a pick at 32, but I think I'd rather have Greene, Minter, and Ogletree over Te'o. If we keep Ellerbe, I think the athletic LB becomes more of a need than another north-south LB like Te'o.

[wickedsolo]

Minter or Ogletree didn't have nearly as bad as a game that Te'o had. Go watch the games on both again.. Yes there were times when Minter looked out of place, but he didn't get blown out of the way like Te'o did. Ogletree had an overall decent game against bama, and he made a few plays, like the goal line stand.

Arthur Brown actually played decently vs Oregon, and collected 9 tackles, wasn't really non existent at all. He was spending most the night covering up for his other players mistakes from what I could see.

I still would be pretty happy with Te'o as a pick at 32, but I think I'd rather have Greene, Minter, and Ogletree over Te'o. If we keep Ellerbe, I think the athletic LB becomes more of a need than another north-south LB like Te'o.

Te'o had 10 tackles against Alabama. What's your point? I watched the Oregon game because there were a slew of players I was really interested in (Arthur Brown being one of them). The guy, much like Te'o against Alabama, was targeted by Oregon's OL almost every single play and the Ducks did a nice job game planning around him. Brown still made some plays here and there, but he wasn't nearly the force that everyone saw all year long.

Ogletree had problems against Alabama's OL. So did Minter.

At some point, you have to take into consideration that (much like a QB) an inside linebacker is dependent upon the DL for occupying blockers and making the RB/QB re-think their current course. Alabama's OL was DOMINANT in almost every single game. They made AJ McCarron look like a 1st round pick. Eddie Lacy went from being a possible 3rd round pick to a 1st rounder running behind that line. Notre Dame's DL was overwhelmed and as a result Te'o and the other ND linebackers were getting swallowed up every other play. I'd also like to point out that Alabama stayed away from throwing to the middle of the field a lot of that game. A lot of the passes McCarron made were come back routes, deep patterns, and throws towards the sideline. There weren't too many thrown to the middle of the field.

Look man, I get that you want to see the Ravens draft an athletic LB and there are more athletic LB's in this draft than Te'o. I don't think anyone here - certainly not me - would argue against that.

What I do know is that Te'o had 3 straight seasons of over 100 tackles and has been a starter at ILB since his freshman year without any major injuries and by all accounts he improved areas of his play (coverage, closing speed, reaction, strength, etc) each season. And outside of the BCS National Championship game, Te'o came up big in big games (USC, Michigan, Michigan State, etc). The kid is a good player and if the Ravens take him in the draft, I'd be stoked because we would be getting a good player at an area of need who could step in and be a day-1 starter.

The catfish thing is a big blow and will definitely impact him wherever he goes. Any locker room he goes to is going to give him his licks and you know what? The kid is going to have to develop some thick skin. However, I think he is the type of kid who will overcome this and earn the respect of his teammates from his play on the field.

Debatable on Mualuga, I remember a bunch of people wanting to draft him, and thought he was great at USC. He just wasn't a hyped up as Te'o was, and I said at times he looks like him, not overall.

Because their both Samoan? That is like every other analyst out there comparing RGIII to Michael Vick because they're black QB's. In reality, RGIII is more Aaron Rodgers than Michael Vick.

Te'o is a better person, player, and leader than Maualuga ever was. Maualuga was a thumper at USC who benefited from having 4 other 1st round defensive players around him (Sedrick Ellis, Keith Rivers, Brian Cushing, and Clay Matthews). The only other player on ND's squad right now that could be a legitimate 1st rounder is Louis Nix. Stephen Tuitt might be a 1st rounder, but Nix definitely will be. The point is, Te'o did more than Maualuga with less talent around him.

Did you see what Torrey Smith tweeted? That's what I'm on about, plus several other players around the league have publicly let their opinions known on this matter. Harbaugh can bring him in and have a soft spot for him, but that isn't going to change the players opinion on him.

Again, Te'o is going to face this adversity wherever he goes. In the Ravens' locker room I guarantee you that Suggs is going to have a FIELD DAY with trying to get under Te'o's skin. I think that someone like Te'o (who is probably ridiculously embarrassed by this whole thing) could take this whole situation, give everyone a big F-U, and bust his ass on the field. He'll earn the respect of his teammates.

Look how long it took for Flacco to really earn the respect of his teammates.

[Raveninwoodlawn]

Did you see what Torrey Smith tweeted? That's what I'm on about, plus several other players around the league have publicly let their opinions known on this matter. Harbaugh can bring him in and have a soft spot for him, but that isn't going to change the players opinion on him.

If Teo can play, players won't care. He'll get teased as a young guy as they all do...and if he shows he belongs on the field, it will go away.

[Paintballguy]

When does the combine start up? Today?

[kronusthebonus]

I think we've got the locker room and the coaches to make Te'o a great player. It seems like he has the drive and the effort. Will he fall to us? Probably not. I'm excited though, I think there will be some player that falls to us that we scoop up and leave people wondering how even did it.

[BigPlayReceiver]

When does the combine start up? Today?

Not much action but yeah. Mostly OL and TE interviews IIRC?

[wickedsolo]

I think we've got the locker room and the coaches to make Te'o a great player. It seems like he has the drive and the effort. Will he fall to us? Probably not. I'm excited though, I think there will be some player that falls to us that we scoop up and leave people wondering how even did it.

I think one of the top 3 ILB's will fall to us.

Who knows though? The Ravens may not take an ILB at all. Passing up someone like DeAndre Hopkins or a pass rusher may be too hard to do.

There will be some decent LB's in this draft though. I've no doubt that the Ravens can come away with at least 2 quality LB's.

[wickedsolo]

Not much action but yeah. Mostly OL and TE interviews IIRC?

Isn't today OL weigh in's?