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  1. #2869
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    Re: Draft / FA / Offseason Roster Moves (Merged)



    Never really said it was, he did get a negative rating on PFF though. Not saying PFF is the bible of football or anyrhing, but its the guys in the trenches that PFF are usefull for.




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    Re: Draft / FA / Offseason Roster Moves (Merged)

    Quote Originally Posted by leachisabeast View Post
    Never really said it was, he did get a negative rating on PFF though. Not saying PFF is the bible of football or anyrhing, but its the guys in the trenches that PFF are usefull for.
    he has also only had one positive rating the previous five years because his pass rush grade is always around -10. I've already addressed that.

    Are you saying hes sucked the past four out of five season because he has had a negative grade? He isn't vince wilfork or ngata. He's a space eater, his job is to keep the ilbs clean, something none of ours did.

    A better way to grade a nose tackles play is to look at the ilbs behind him. Timmons has 54 stops, 30 odd more than our ilbs. Even larry foote had more than any of ours. Hampton keep his ilbs clean, job done.




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    Re: Draft / FA / Offseason Roster Moves (Merged)

    Quote Originally Posted by Paintballguy View Post
    http://t.co/HUCHarwG

    Alec Ogletee charged with DUI. Will he fall now?
    Quote Originally Posted by BigPlayReceiver View Post
    Once is a fluke.
    Twice is a trend.
    Three times is behavioral.

    He'll probably fall a bit.
    I think he was a borderline 1st rounder anyway. He's athletic as hell, but he isn't a complete LB, IMO.

    I could see him going in the mid 20's, but I could also see him going in the 40's.
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  4. #2872

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    Ogletree is a tough prospect to grade IMHO.

    I don't like his aversion to taking on blockers, but on the other hand, the "take on blockers and shed" argument is kind of old IMHO...the days of the big 255 lb LB's who are brushing off 320 lb linemen are coming to an end...the vast majority of LB's are going to get engolfed by guards and centers except for the very few elite LB's in this league and even they are often able to slip the blocks by reading keys and being faster to the spot than the linemen.

    It's tough...there are no Pat Willis' or Kuechly's in this draft. None of the ILB's or OLB's are good at taking on linemen IMHO...and the ones that are better at that, are typically bad in pass coverage.

    I think I'd definately take Ogletree simply because I think we are more desperate for speed as opposed to size.

    He did have an impressive play in the SEC championship game where he absolutely STONED Eddie Lacy in the hole at the goal line...I remember not thinking he had that type of physicality/heart to make a play like that.

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    Although Walsh's system of offense can compensate for lack of talent; however, defense is a different story. According to Walsh, talent on defense was essential and could not be compensated for. What did Walsh do in 1981? He acquired physical and talented players on defense.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Paintballguy View Post
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    Alec Ogletee charged with DUI. Will he fall now?
    And so it begins.

    You know there will be about 3-4 more incidents coming.

    Every year.

    I will never understand why these guys don't just lock themselves up in a box from Feb-Apr. Is it really that hard to stay out of trouble before the biggest interview of your life?

    Quote Originally Posted by BigPlayReceiver View Post
    Once is a fluke.
    Twice is a trend.
    Three times is behavioral.

    He'll probably fall a bit.
    Well he now has this incident to match a previous positive drug test. Looking like a trend.




  6. #2874

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    Quote Originally Posted by bt12483 View Post
    I will never understand why these guys don't just lock themselves up in a box from Feb-Apr. Is it really that hard to stay out of trouble before the biggest interview of your life?
    haha...I've often said the same thing...I mean verbatim: lock themselves in a f-in box.
    I'd be playing Xbox, watching porn, eating right and working out every day, all day.




  7. #2875

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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QizxvIGcQVc

    This is the only game I've seen from Quessenberry. Maybe he can be seen on a Ryan Otten tape somewhere. Not too impressed with Quessenberry here though. I know his value is in his positional flexibility, but I hope LT is his weakest position.




  8. #2876

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    Someone, maybe a month a go, maybe Alien Bird or Carey, asked me about Ace Sanders.

    I hadn't looked at him then and still haven't, but based upon his seasonal stats, the best games to find would be vs. Clemson, Michigan (Outback Bowl), Tennessee and LSU...in that order.

    All of those games were late in the season, so Lattimore film wouldn't help, but SC's center (name escapes me right now) is a prospect, so tape featuring him might show you Sanders.




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    Re: Draft / FA / Offseason Roster Moves (Merged)

    Quote Originally Posted by BigPlayReceiver View Post
    Someone, maybe a month a go, maybe Alien Bird or Carey, asked me about Ace Sanders.

    I hadn't looked at him then and still haven't, but based upon his seasonal stats, the best games to find would be vs. Clemson, Michigan (Outback Bowl), Tennessee and LSU...in that order.

    All of those games were late in the season, so Lattimore film wouldn't help, but SC's center (name escapes me right now) is a prospect, so tape featuring him might show you Sanders.
    Ace Sanders is a typical smallish, scat WR with short area explosiveness and speed. He does a nice job with the ball in his hands and he is definitely someone that can take it the distance as a return specialist. I just don't know how much value he has because of his size. It really limits what you can do with him on the field IMO. However, I do think that he and Darius Johnson (SMU) could be mid-late round options for a "Tavon Austin-esque" receiver for the Ravens.
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  10. #2878

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    The more I think about it the more it seems that we will not be able to keep Kruger. I do not see him taking a discount, he already has his ring now it's time to chase after the money. I do not think he is worth 9mil a year, as it has been said previously we have depth behind him. You can scheme to replace the pass rush. The biggest factor I think is that the colts just released Freeney, which shows they want to either get younger or save money-or both. I have a feeling that this means they are going to after Kruger hard! With Robert Mathis on the other side to compliment him, I feel it would be a good move. Personally I wouldn't blame him for leaving but I think it's much more essential for this team to keep Ellerbe.




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    Re: Draft / FA / Offseason Roster Moves (Merged)

    Quote Originally Posted by BigPlayReceiver View Post
    haha...I've often said the same thing...I mean verbatim: lock themselves in a f-in box.
    I'd be playing Xbox, watching porn, eating right and working out every day, all day.
    Exactly. I don't get it. These players are about to be millionaires, and they can't just lay low for a few months?




  12. #2880

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    Quote Originally Posted by leachisabeast View Post
    Alec Ogletree will go in the second rounds anyway, I've watched his tape, he isn't all that he's hyped up to be. Speedy athletic guy who can cover well, but his tackling and shedding blocks leaves a lot left to be desired.
    ZERO chance he doesn't get drafted in the first round. He's still learning the position and has too much upside.
    "Flacco will never win a Super Bowl in my lifetime" - Lamarr Woodley, Squealers LB<-- what Flacco stares at before every game




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