Draft / FA / Offseason Roster Moves (Merged)

**Paintballguy** · 01-24-2013, 03:18 PM

Originally Posted by leachisabeast

He may be a little right about that, but Matt Miller doesn't know what he's talking about and is terrible, and guess what? He works for Bleacher report of all places.

He is quoting a source though. Doesn't mean the source he's quoting knows anything either though.

**wickedsolo** · 01-24-2013, 03:39 PM

T'eo may not be a blazer, but we have no idea how fast he is or is not.

If he gets out there and runs a 4.5 40-yard dash, then people are going to be changing their tune quite a bit.

I think he is going to drop in the draft, but I don't know how far. Notre Dame didn't play a lot of top tiered opponents and he played behind a pretty mammoth DL...so, I think those things are what people are going to be looking at during the combine.

Also, athlete linebackers don't always work out either. Look at Tarvares Gooden. Dude ran down Adrian Peterson. Couldn't play ball worth a lick though.

**leachisabeast** · 01-24-2013, 04:53 PM

San Jose guard/center David Quessenberry (6'5, 294 lbs) has been trending up according to scouts. A little known prospect who had a fifth round evaluation has now supposedly been considered a 3rd round option for team scouts. He can play guard and center, and can even cover tackle, said to be a great locker room leader for the San Jose team. His team mate Ryan Otten who plays TE for them is also trending in the right direction, he has been caught with an illness, but has been playing well through it, team scouts seem to really like that about Otten.

For what its worth the Ravens have shown particular interest in both.

**wickedsolo** · 01-24-2013, 05:15 PM

Originally Posted by leachisabeast

San Jose guard/center David Quessenberry (6'5, 294 lbs) has been trending up according to scouts. A little known prospect who had a fifth round evaluation has now supposedly been considered a 3rd round option for team scouts. He can play guard and center, and can even cover tackle, said to be a great locker room leader for the San Jose team. His team mate Ryan Otten who plays TE for them is also trending in the right direction, he has been caught with an illness, but has been playing well through it, team scouts seem to really like that about Otten.

For what its worth the Ravens have shown particular interest in both.

Im all for the best o-lineman possible, but man...KO-Gradkowski-Yanda is such a good interior lineup...it would be a shame to mix that up again.

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**leachisabeast** · 01-24-2013, 05:23 PM

None of us know how good Gino is at this point, we don't know how the team view him. Right now, my money is on Gino starting next year, but that doesn't mean he will. We also spent a 4th round pick on Christian Thompson and literally nobody here thinks he's going to be starting next season. I think the Ravens would be crazy NOT to bring in some competition in for Gino, but it will more likely come through FA. I do like Ryan Otten though, he could come in and compete with Dickson.

**bmorecareful** · 01-24-2013, 05:27 PM

Originally Posted by leachisabeast

San Jose guard/center David Quessenberry (6'5, 294 lbs) has been trending up according to scouts. A little known prospect who had a fifth round evaluation has now supposedly been considered a 3rd round option for team scouts. He can play guard and center, and can even cover tackle, said to be a great locker room leader for the San Jose team. His team mate Ryan Otten who plays TE for them is also trending in the right direction, he has been caught with an illness, but has been playing well through it, team scouts seem to really like that about Otten.

For what its worth the Ravens have shown particular interest in both.

Quessenberry is a tackle/guard prospect, not a guard/center. He played every game at LT for SJSU over the past 3 years. I actually think he's a highly underrated prospect and a potential future LT in the NFL. He might only be 6'5 295, but he has pretty much the exact same frame as Eric Fisher only 2 inches shorter (his arms are only 1/8" shorter and he's built pretty much identically.)

He's been getting some praise as well, if Eric Fisher and Lane Johnson weren't holding up so well people would probably be taking more notice. He's just as good an athlete as both of them frankly and his ability to play both guard and tackle might really appeal to the Ravens, who like versatile linemen. I think he's climbed ahead of both Aboushi and Wagner at this point. He could maybe go as high as the late 2nd, I'd be fine with the Ravens taking him there.

**leachisabeast** · 01-24-2013, 05:32 PM

Originally Posted by bmorecareful

Quessenberry is a tackle/guard prospect, not a guard/center. He played every game at LT for SJSU over the past 3 years. I actually think he's a highly underrated prospect and a potential future LT in the NFL. He might only be 6'5 295, but he has pretty much the exact same frame as Eric Fisher only 2 inches shorter (his arms are only 1/8" shorter and he's built pretty much identically.)

He's been getting some praise as well, if Eric Fisher and Lane Johnson weren't holding up so well people would probably be taking more notice. He's just as good an athlete as both of them frankly and his ability to play both guard and tackle might really appeal to the Ravens, who like versatile linemen. I think he's climbed ahead of both Aboushi and Wagner at this point. He could maybe go as high as the late 2nd, I'd be fine with the Ravens taking him there.

Supposedly they had him snapping the ball at practice, and teams view him as an interior guy so just going by what I read. I watched a little youtube tape on him at LT and he looks good, but I'm not sure if he's athletic enough to play OT in the NFL.

**NC Raven** · 01-24-2013, 05:34 PM

Happened to catch Quesenberry in drills the other day. Aside from Fisher he looked like the best LT prospect of the ones they showed, and was definitely getting talked up by Mayock and the other guy. Seemed to swallow up the rushers, and was able to "re-anchor" well after getting moved. Very solid guy, looked tough to beat, and was described as the type who will keep getting better at the pro level.

**wickedsolo** · 01-24-2013, 05:42 PM

Originally Posted by leachisabeast

None of us know how good Gino is at this point, we don't know how the team view him. Right now, my money is on Gino starting next year, but that doesn't mean he will. We also spent a 4th round pick on Christian Thompson and literally nobody here thinks he's going to be starting next season. I think the Ravens would be crazy NOT to bring in some competition in for Gino, but it will more likely come through FA. I do like Ryan Otten though, he could come in and compete with Dickson.

Keep in mind that someone like Jack Cornell could be given the opportunity.

The Ravens also have Antione McClain and Reggie Stephens on the practice squad. Both are interior linemen.

I also think a FA vet center is more likely than two young guys...
Fernando Velasco, Dan Koppen, Chris Spencer...

Personally, I think Gino is going to be fine simply because he'll have Yanda and KO lined up right beside him. I'm sure he'll have his bumps along the way, but considering he's been active with the team all year long clearly - to me - shows that the coaches are good with him if Birk were to go down for any length of time.

**wickedsolo** · 01-24-2013, 05:45 PM

Originally Posted by NC Raven

Happened to catch Quesenberry in drills the other day. Aside from Fisher he looked like the best LT prospect of the ones they showed, and was definitely getting talked up by Mayock and the other guy. Seemed to swallow up the rushers, and was able to "re-anchor" well after getting moved. Very solid guy, looked tough to beat, and was described as the type who will keep getting better at the pro level.

I like him a lot too. He may not be 6'8" or anything, but the guy is a SOLID 295-300lbs. As long as he has the footwork, the rest is easy to coach.

**wickedsolo** · 01-24-2013, 05:47 PM

And his brother is at the Naval Academy...so that's cool.

**leachisabeast** · 01-24-2013, 05:51 PM

He seems like a flawless character concern type pick to from what I've read on him.

**JAB1985** · 01-24-2013, 06:23 PM

Originally Posted by leachisabeast

None of us know how good Gino is at this point, we don't know how the team view him. Right now, my money is on Gino starting next year, but that doesn't mean he will. We also spent a 4th round pick on Christian Thompson and literally nobody here thinks he's going to be starting next season. I think the Ravens would be crazy NOT to bring in some competition in for Gino, but it will more likely come through FA. I do like Ryan Otten though, he could come in and compete with Dickson.

If reed leaves... I think thompson will start. Unless of course we get elam. Hes the next best safety on the team at that point.

**PalladinInNC** · 01-24-2013, 06:42 PM

Originally Posted by wickedsolo

And his brother is at the Naval Academy...so that's cool.

Wicked,

A few of the mock drafts have the Ravens picking DT Sheldon Richardson of Missouri in the first. Other than the fact that he appears to be a top 20 pick and would really have to drop for us to have a chance at him, what are your thoughts on him and whether he would fit in on our defense?

**wickedsolo** · 01-24-2013, 07:18 PM

Originally Posted by PalladinInNC

Wicked,

A few of the mock drafts have the Ravens picking DT Sheldon Richardson of Missouri in the first. Other than the fact that he appears to be a top 20 pick and would really have to drop for us to have a chance at him, what are your thoughts on him and whether he would fit in on our defense?

I like Richardson a lot. He's a hell of a pass rusher.

I'm not sure he'd be a good fit in the Ravens' D though. I think he is similar to Pernell McPhee, which isn't a bad thing.

That said, I don't see how he'd get to us at 31 or (hopefully) 32.

**BigPlayReceiver** · 01-24-2013, 07:47 PM

Quesenberry looked pretty good in 1 on 1's on Weds.
Wagner looked bad...heavy footed, off balance, over-matched. Not sure I would take him for depth from what I saw.

**bmorecareful** · 01-24-2013, 08:25 PM

Originally Posted by BigPlayReceiver

Quesenberry looked pretty good in 1 on 1's on Weds.
Wagner looked bad...heavy footed, off balance, over-matched. Not sure I would take him for depth from what I saw.

He's had a miserable week of practice. Definitely not as high on him as I used to be. He looked better on tape but obviously Wisconsin's excellent OL staff knew how to mask his inadequacies. He's fallen way behind a bunch of other guys at this point, Quessenberry being one of them, as mid-round LT possibilities.

If Lane Johnson lasts to 32, I think there's a really good chance he'll be the Ravens pick, actually. Not sure they'd take him over Elam, but Elam might not be there.

**wickedsolo** · 01-25-2013, 07:27 AM

Lane Johnson would be a nice addition, IMO.

Though, I think his stock is going to skyrocket.

**arnie_uk** · 01-25-2013, 07:36 AM

We have to be looking at someone like Johnson, Elam, vaccaro, minter, teo, floyd, Shortt with our first. Unless someone unexpected drops I'd be pretty upset of we went elsewhere.

**wickedsolo** · 01-25-2013, 08:20 AM

Originally Posted by arnie_uk

We have to be looking at someone like Johnson, Elam, vaccaro, minter, teo, floyd, Shortt with our first. Unless someone unexpected drops I'd be pretty upset of we went elsewhere.

Don't rule out a pass rusher if one drops.

Alex Okafor, Dion Jordan, Sam Montgomery, or someone like that could very well drop.