Draft / FA / Offseason Roster Moves (Merged)

**leachisabeast** · 02-08-2013, 03:44 PM

Originally Posted by The Excellector

Hey.....you never know.

Seriously, he's the second coming of Jamal.

**alien bird** · 02-08-2013, 04:18 PM

I think there are going to be five or six legitimate options at 32, and Ozzie will trade back into the top of the 2nd round, , knowing he'll still get one of those guys. That would enable him to move up again in the 2nd or 3rd and end up getting four picks between 40 and 90 resulting in getting the guys he needs.

**wickedsolo** · 02-08-2013, 05:01 PM

Originally Posted by The Excellector

Ray was also an undersized ILB.

I dont know why folks are claiming Minter is undersized.

He's 6'2"/6'3" and 240-245lbs.

My guess is he'll weigh in around 6'1" - 6'2" and 238-242lbs.

**leachisabeast** · 02-08-2013, 05:03 PM

Minter has a really big frame, I too don't understand this "undersize" issue. Height isn't really an issue for a ILB either, 6'1 is more than good enough. Its not like we're talking about OL here.

**Thrall** · 02-08-2013, 05:29 PM

Originally Posted by Carey

Daniel Jeremiah loves Minter, says when he was scouting here they focus on 3 things with LB's 1. speed 2. toughness 3. instincts and Minter fits the bill. Talks about the Florida game being essentially a Minter highlight reel, which it was, he was tremendous in that game.

I watched that game. I was thinking, damn he would look good in a Ravens uniform next year!

**Raveninwoodlawn** · 02-08-2013, 05:43 PM

Originally Posted by The Excellector

Ray was also an undersized ILB.

Originally Posted by wickedsolo

I dont know why folks are claiming Minter is undersized.

He's 6'2"/6'3" and 240-245lbs.

My guess is he'll weigh in around 6'1" - 6'2" and 238-242lbs.

Originally Posted by leachisabeast

Minter has a really big frame, I too don't understand this "undersize" issue. Height isn't really an issue for a ILB either, 6'1 is more than good enough. Its not like we're talking about OL here.

I've never read or heard anybody say he was undersized...who was saying that?

I don't really care...all of the guys I want weigh between 230-240...Hodges, Brown, Greene etc.

**Boulderraven** · 02-08-2013, 06:42 PM

Originally Posted by Raveninwoodlawn

I've never read or heard anybody say he was undersized...who was saying that?

I don't really care...all of the guys I want weigh between 230-240...Hodges, Brown, Greene etc.

Size is overrated for his position anyway, it's about explosiveness, speed, moves, power, balance and instincts(IQ).

**alien bird** · 02-08-2013, 07:16 PM

Originally Posted by Boulderraven

Size is overrated for his position anyway, it's about explosiveness, speed, moves, power, balance and instincts(IQ).

With teams copying the New England model of two TEs, linebackers had better be fast. Otherwise, nobody will contain a good two TE offense. The TEs coming out of college, plus the good ones in the league already, are just too big and fast.

**BigPlayReceiver** · 02-08-2013, 07:21 PM

Speed at LB please...and let us double-up this draft while we're at it.

**Ravenalytics** · 02-08-2013, 07:23 PM

Does anyone think it's possible we might look at a way to offload Ray Rice's contract? His fumbling issues in the playoffs have been concerning, and I think Pierce could very well be starter quality.

**Boulderraven** · 02-08-2013, 07:33 PM

Originally Posted by alien bird

With teams copying the New England model of two TEs, linebackers had better be fast. Otherwise, nobody will contain a good two TE offense. The TEs coming out of college, plus the good ones in the league already, are just too big and fast.

Agreed, that's why you will see bulked up larger Safeties playing LB in the extremely near future. That will be the trend as well as average speed good cover corners swithing to Safety. They have gotten rid of the lower the boom hard punishing Safety position with this defenseless WR call. Better coverage and speed on the back end in the trend.

**Charlestonraven** · 02-08-2013, 07:35 PM

Originally Posted by Ravenalytics

Does anyone think it's possible we might look at a way to offload Ray Rice's contract? His fumbling issues in the playoffs have been concerning, and I think Pierce could very well be starter quality.

This would be a good idea in a vacuum, but I just cant see it happening. The Ravens aren't going to cut Rice for the same reason they signed him in the first place. It is folly to pay any RB 8 mill a year save maybe AP. But it would kill team morale to ditch a team leader in his prime. They've always rewarded their star players.

**Carey** · 02-08-2013, 08:04 PM

Originally Posted by Boulderraven

Agreed, that's why you will see bulked up larger Safeties playing LB in the extremely near future. That will be the trend as well as average speed good cover corners swithing to Safety. They have gotten rid of the lower the boom hard punishing Safety position with this defenseless WR call. Better coverage and speed on the back end in the trend.

This, i think starting this year you'll see the tweeners start to more of a look. I've been saying for a while i think the nickel LB is about to become a more coveted position. Hopefully we add a starting caliber ILB and at least one nickel LB type in this draft.

**Bazooka Joe** · 02-08-2013, 08:23 PM

What's the scouting reports on

Jesse Williams DT
DJ. Fluker RT
A. Ogletree.

Thanks. Where are they projected to go in draft?

**Bazooka Joe** · 02-08-2013, 08:59 PM

We have a nickel LB: Bernard Pollard

**wickedsolo** · 02-08-2013, 09:15 PM

Originally Posted by Bazooka Joe

What's the scouting reports on

Jesse Williams DT
DJ. Fluker RT
A. Ogletree.

Thanks. Where are they projected to go in draft?

Williams is probably my favorite out of this bunch, but I like Ogletree's upside a lot.

With Williams you are getting a pretty athletic big man (6'4" 320-330lbs) who can play NT or DT in a 3-4. I think he needs to work on becoming a better pass rusher, but the kid is ridiculously strong at the point of attack. I would comfortably say he is a solid 2nd rounder.

Fluker is huge and has an incredible wing span, but doesnt have good footwork as a pass blocker. He is a hell of a run blocker though. I think a lot of teams are going to plug him into a RT position since that is where he played at Alabama, but frankly I think guard is his best position. Some team desperate for an OL'man could take him in round 1, but I think a mid 2nd to mid 3rd is probably more accurate.

Regarding Ogletree, the guy is athletic as hell and he is very good in coverage. That is largely because he was a safety until I believe his sophomore year at Georgia when they dropped him down to LB. The big knock against him is that sometimes he shies away from blockers and rather than stuffing the hole, he will try to run around blockers and make a play from behind. That can work in college. Not in the NFL, though. I can't see him sliding out of round 1, but if he does it will only be a few spots into the second round.

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**wickedsolo** · 02-08-2013, 09:18 PM

Devonte Holloman is another safety converted to LB that os an interesting prospect.

South Carolina. He was a SS and played a hybrid SS/Olb last year. He exclusively played ILB this year. He is 6'2" and around 243-246lbs. Big hitter.

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**wickedsolo** · 02-08-2013, 09:24 PM

Originally Posted by Ravenalytics

Does anyone think it's possible we might look at a way to offload Ray Rice's contract? His fumbling issues in the playoffs have been concerning, and I think Pierce could very well be starter quality.

No.

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**BigPlayReceiver** · 02-08-2013, 11:31 PM

Some Chad Bumphis tape finally.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=OQxj_3U9dRY

Reckon I need to look for some "all snaps" <SEC defensive stud> tape vs. Miss State's offense, so that I can see more of Bumphis.
I like his post catch elusiveness at 5'11 200lbs. Reportedly, he can truck a sub 4.5 as well. Steve Smith measureables, I'd say, but Bumphis would be a slot guy.