Draft / FA / Offseason Roster Moves (Merged)

**wickedsolo** · 01-11-2013, 12:49 PM

Originally Posted by Lee Van Cleef

Well, depends how much you believe anything that is said at this point. And anyway, I can't see him getting past Pitt.

Or the Colts. Or maybe even the Jets.

**BigPlayReceiver** · 01-11-2013, 01:44 PM

I'm starting to become pretty comfortable with Lane Johnson.
Unfortunately, with Lewan and Matthews returning, Johnson may have been pulled up into the high teens-low twenties range.

**leachisabeast** · 01-12-2013, 04:10 AM

Originally Posted by BigPlayReceiver

I'm starting to become pretty comfortable with Lane Johnson.
Unfortunately, with Lewan and Matthews returning, Johnson may have been pulled up into the high teens-low twenties range.

I talked about him the other week, I was impressed with what I seen, then not so impressed, still really raw.

Also, I'm starting to get comfortable with the possibility of Margus Hunt in the first round, yes he is very raw, but he is a freak of nature, and could be great if he develops his potential, and we have some pretty damn good coaches that can help him.

**BigPlayReceiver** · 01-12-2013, 11:16 PM

We need a separating WR. One that can create space with his feet or body.

Studman
Patton
Swope
Johnson
Patterson

Of course, I loved the big plays vs. DEN but damn Joe shouldn't have to needle every single pass under 30 yards ffs.

**BigPlayReceiver** · 01-13-2013, 09:21 AM

This kid from EWU looks intriguing at 6'5 215 with enough production for two or three WRs. Not as fast, but looks to be more polished than Streeter was coming out. I'm sure he has better hands too with the numbers of receptions in his career.

The highlights at the links are on ESPN, so there's an annoying 10 second commercial prior to each one.

http://www.footballsfuture.com/phpBB...c.php?t=510480

**alien bird** · 01-13-2013, 09:26 AM

Originally Posted by BigPlayReceiver

We need a separating WR. One that can create space with his feet or body.

Studman
Patton
Swope
Johnson
Patterson

Of course, I loved the big plays vs. DEN but damn Joe shouldn't have to needle every single pass under 30 yards ffs.

I think the Ravens can move around in the draft and get Da'Rick Rogers in the 2nd round. The guy is big, fast and fearless across the middle.

**BigPlayReceiver** · 01-13-2013, 10:44 AM

Originally Posted by alien bird

I think the Ravens can move around in the draft and get Da'Rick Rogers in the 2nd round. The guy is big, fast and fearless across the middle.

Do you think we'll be okay with his recent character history? Not being rhetorical here...I just don't think we'll go for a cat like him.

**dandrews** · 01-13-2013, 10:49 AM

I'm all aboard the Kevin Minter train. When it's all said and done i think he's going to be one of the best linebackers (if not the best) to get drafted this year

**dandrews** · 01-13-2013, 10:56 AM

Also, in regards to Lewan, let him do what he wants. If he enjoys college that much, he should stay. Nobody else is entitled to make the decision for him.

**BigPlayReceiver** · 01-13-2013, 11:22 AM

Originally Posted by dandrews

I'm all aboard the Kevin Minter train. When it's all said and done i think he's going to be one of the best linebackers (if not the best) to get drafted this year

I'm ranking my LBs starting this week, and I'm putting enormous value on speed and I will "sacrifice" size.
Our slow LBs drive me absolutely crazy.

**Carey** · 01-13-2013, 12:44 PM

I mentioned small school LT Luke Marquadt a couple days ago, i found a video of him here. It's really for the QB but you can see a lot of his LT. Huge 6'9'' guy that has good feet, def. has some tools to work with. www.youtube.com/watch?v=In_Ury-FjzQ

**alien bird** · 01-13-2013, 12:50 PM

Originally Posted by BigPlayReceiver

Do you think we'll be okay with his recent character history? Not being rhetorical here...I just don't think we'll go for a cat like him.

That is definitely a concern, and guys like that sometimes are taken completely off the Ravens' board. I think a lot depends on the vetting process the Ravens do on the guy and the interviews. Sometimes a guy gets tossed aside, then ends up like Vontaze Burfict.

**alien bird** · 01-13-2013, 12:53 PM

Originally Posted by BigPlayReceiver

I'm putting enormous value on speed and I will "sacrifice" size.

That's the way the game is headed with the new breed of quarterbacks and the passing (& contact) rules of the new NFL. It's all about speed, and the Ravens need to draft that way on both offense and defense.

**Raveninwoodlawn** · 01-13-2013, 12:56 PM

The first 3-4 picks should all be for the front 7 and a LT.

**Carey** · 01-13-2013, 01:00 PM

Originally Posted by Raveninwoodlawn

The first 3-4 picks should all be for the front 7 and a LT.

Couldnt agree more, i'd put FS in that mix as well. We need an impact NT/DT who can play heavy snaps, a starter at ILB, a starter at LT and a starter at FS

**alien bird** · 01-13-2013, 01:01 PM

Originally Posted by Raveninwoodlawn

The first 3-4 picks should all be for the front 7 and a LT.

That depends on what happens in free agency. As everyone saw yesterday, speed on offense kills defenses, and the Ravens need another impact receiver with wheels who can step in and contribute immediately, especially if Boldin is unaffordable.

**leachisabeast** · 01-13-2013, 01:02 PM

Or we could re-sign Bryant McKinnie for another year, and just completely focus on the front 7...

**bmorecareful** · 01-13-2013, 01:22 PM

Originally Posted by alien bird

I think the Ravens can move around in the draft and get Da'Rick Rogers in the 2nd round. The guy is big, fast and fearless across the middle.

Originally Posted by BigPlayReceiver

Do you think we'll be okay with his recent character history? Not being rhetorical here...I just don't think we'll go for a cat like him.

I understood what you and others are saying with respect to "why would the Ravens take a shot on a 'character' guy after they've missed with Sergio Kindle and Jimmy Smith," but that's outcome bias. Each situation has to be evaluated on its own merits.

Kindle's brain injury was a freak thing, whether it was because he was drunk or purely an accident you can't make a future decision based on that decision not working out. Jimmy Smith has been perfectly clean off the field as far as we know--that decision looks like it won't pan out not because of his character but because of his play on the field.

I don't see those concerns with Da'Rick Rogers. His background check has to come through clean, he has to interview well, and he has to overcome the presumption that he's got problems. But if he does that I would have no problem with spending a 2nd round pick on him. In terms of his actual football ability I have him graded as my #1 receiver in the class although not necessarily my favorite receiver. If he pans out to his upside I think he has Julio Jones type potential.

**bmorecareful** · 01-13-2013, 01:23 PM

Originally Posted by leachisabeast

Or we could re-sign Bryant McKinnie for another year, and just completely focus on the front 7...

Bryant has played himself onto this team next year IF the financials work out and IF the coaching staff feels confident he can continue to play at this level.

Those are big IFs, but McKinnie's play over the last 2 games can't be underrated. He has been unbelievable.

**wickedsolo** · 01-13-2013, 02:10 PM

McKinnie has played really well...but are the cosches really going to want to deal with him again this off season? Also, how do we know he isnt just playing hard now for a new contract that maybe the Ravens wont be able to give him?

There are a lot of questions going into this off-season. I still think Ellerbe and Kruger are the top priorities after Flacco.

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