Draft / FA / Offseason Roster Moves (Merged)

**wickedsolo** · 01-21-2013, 03:04 PM

Originally Posted by Carey

Margus Hunt just put himself in the first round off measurements alone lol, after the year Watt had someone wont be able to resist trying to get their own version.

I definitely think he'll be a 1st rounder. That size...supposedly the dude can run the 40 in under 4.6. Plus, he is strong as hell.

I wouldn't be surprised at all if after the combine he ends up being a top 25 pick.

**Carey** · 01-21-2013, 03:09 PM

Originally Posted by wickedsolo

I definitely think he'll be a 1st rounder. That size...supposedly the dude can run the 40 in under 4.6. Plus, he is strong as hell.

I wouldn't be surprised at all if after the combine he ends up being a top 25 pick.

On top of that he's already a good football player and he dominated the last game people saw him in. I think your right. Before the bowl game i didnt think i'd want the Ravens to take him in the first but after seeing him i'd def. take him but at #32 :-) doesnt look like we'll get the shot to anyway.

**leachisabeast** · 01-21-2013, 03:10 PM

Originally Posted by wickedsolo

I definitely think he'll be a 1st rounder. That size...supposedly the dude can run the 40 in under 4.6. Plus, he is strong as hell.

I wouldn't be surprised at all if after the combine he ends up being a top 25 pick.

I'm really pulling for either Ansah or Hunt to drop to us, they could really add a new dimension to this defense if they live up to their raw potential.

**leachisabeast** · 01-21-2013, 03:11 PM

Originally Posted by wickedsolo

Jon Jenkins was listed at 6'3" 351lbs...measured in nearly an inch taller and 359lbs. That's a big boy.

Another pick I wouldn't mind at all in the first round, he compares very favorably with Wilfolk and Hampton with that kind of size. 6'3 is also the perfect height for a 3-4 nose.

**wickedsolo** · 01-21-2013, 03:27 PM

Originally Posted by leachisabeast

I'm really pulling for either Ansah or Hunt to drop to us, they could really add a new dimension to this defense if they live up to their raw potential.

Either would be pretty solid, but Hunt would be phenomenal.

**leachisabeast** · 01-21-2013, 11:50 PM

Keep an eye on Jack Doyle from WKU, had very good measurements, 6052 254.

Could be a guy to target in the 4th to 6th rounds. He looks like a bigger version of Pitta. Not as athletic, but bigger and better at blocking from what I've seen. He is a hard working guy off the field, and would be a typical Raven type pick from a small school.

Btw, nice catch lol

**arnie_uk** · 01-22-2013, 07:22 AM

Do you not sleep leach?

**The Excellector** · 01-22-2013, 07:36 AM

Ryan Clady.

**leachisabeast** · 01-22-2013, 07:41 AM

Originally Posted by arnie_uk

Do you not sleep leach?

Working nights atm.

This is what you do when you got nothing to do in one boring boring job.

**leachisabeast** · 01-22-2013, 07:42 AM

Originally Posted by The Excellector

Ryan Clady.

Pay the guy more than 10 mil a year who got absolutely dominated by a 50 % Terrell Suggs? No thank you.

Bryant McKinnie for 2 million $ for another year will do fine for me.

**wickedsolo** · 01-22-2013, 07:56 AM

Jets met with Tyrann Mathieu.

**The Excellector** · 01-22-2013, 07:57 AM

Originally Posted by leachisabeast

Pay the guy more than 10 mil a year who got absolutely dominated by a 50 % Terrell Suggs? No thank you.

Bryant McKinnie for 2 million $ for another year will do fine for me.

Alright, but you need to draft a LT. Just in case we win the Super Bowl and McKinnie goes on the love boat again.

**GOTA** · 01-22-2013, 07:59 AM

Originally Posted by wickedsolo

Jets met with Tyrann Mathieu.

Some team is going to take a shot on him in the middle of the draft. It won't be us though.

**wickedsolo** · 01-22-2013, 08:01 AM

Originally Posted by GOTA

Some team is going to take a shot on him in the middle of the draft. It won't be us though.

I agree it won't be us.

I don't think Mathieu is draftable though. I think teams will interview him and he'll sign on with a team much like Burfict.

**GOTA** · 01-22-2013, 08:08 AM

Originally Posted by leachisabeast

Pay the guy more than 10 mil a year who got absolutely dominated by a 50 % Terrell Suggs? No thank you.

Bryant McKinnie for 2 million $ for another year will do fine for me.

Clady is getting franchised. Manning is too valuable for the Broncos to go to plan B at Left Tackle.,

**GOTA** · 01-22-2013, 08:11 AM

Originally Posted by wickedsolo

I agree it won't be us.

I don't think Mathieu is draftable though. I think teams will interview him and he'll sign on with a team much like Burfict.

Burifict and to a lesser extent Dennard of the Patriots is exactly the reason why I see some team drafting him. Some coach will think they can fix him and get a steal.

**wickedsolo** · 01-22-2013, 08:18 AM

Originally Posted by GOTA

Burifict and to a lesser extent Dennard of the Patriots is exactly the reason why I see some team drafting him. Some coach will think they can fix him and get a steal.

You may be right.

**bmorecareful** · 01-22-2013, 08:54 AM

Originally Posted by wickedsolo

I agree it won't be us.

I don't think Mathieu is draftable though. I think teams will interview him and he'll sign on with a team much like Burfict.

Agree with this. There are guys around here and on the internet who are stamping their feet and confidently predicting Mathieu will go in the 3rd or 4th round. Are they freaking kidding? I've gone through this time and time again...

First of all, on pure football considerations alone, the guy is problematic. He has no NFL position. At corner he's probably restricted to the nickel only, which isn't a HUGE problem because teams are in the nickel so much, but you don't spend early picks on guys who won't play every down. The Ravens particularly are flush with guys who can play inside in the nickel (Graham, Webb, Jackson) and really are more in need of perimeter CBs anyway. I don't see him at safety due to lacking size and range in the deep half of the field. So if he was squeaky clean off the field you're talking about a nickel CB and RS who's probably a much better college than pro player. That sounds like 3rd-4th right there.

Then, add in the fact that he's a drug dealer, criminal, and (probable) drug addict way past his 3rd strike--so bad in fact that he got kicked off of LSU's team, which is pretty hard to do with the circus Les Miles runs down in Baton Rouge... the kid has skeletons out the wazoo in his closet. Now, all of this is predicated on what we know right now. It's not at all out of the question that Mathieu could get his shit together and really make an impression on teams during the pre-draft process with his interviews, etc. I would just say the odds are against it given how much ground he has to regain.

Honestly I would have no problem bringing Mathieu into training camp as a priority UDFA. He has some game and we need depth at DB and RS. But there's too many question marks to waste a draft pick on him CERTAINLY in the mid rounds. If they want to throw a 7th rounder at him that's probably fine. But I'd put it 50/50 right now whether he's drafted AT ALL.

**BigPlayReceiver** · 01-22-2013, 08:56 AM

So what's Caldwell's ask for the OS? Assuming he'll lobby hard for re-signing McKinnie, and assuming we'll see more exploitative formations and schemes (i.e., throwing the ball between the hashes b/c your opponent's ILBs are slow and their safeties are cheating over toward your speedster out wide), what does Jim think is missing?

I'm still coming up with the route runner that can create space with his feet and technique as a priority (...round drafted would have no bearing. The greatest value still applies.)