It's time to give Oher help/ keep a TE on his side.

**Ravensghost** · 12-10-2012, 08:44 AM

Originally Posted by wickedsolo

Because he doesn't need to be a good pass blocker at RT either, huh?

Did you see Ryan KErrigan getting around KO? That was off the right side.

Oher plays better as a Rt.. He is not a Lt. Move KO inside to guard. and Put Big snack back at Lt. With Yanda hurt,
what other choice do we have. The next 2 teams have a nasty pass rush. Do you really want Oher at Lt againts
that.

**KbubbaK** · 12-10-2012, 08:49 AM

Originally Posted by arnie_uk

He did recognise the blitz on the int. he said in his pressed its an easy play to make, but he had to hold onto it a bit longer than he wanted to.

He knew what was coming, he knew what needed to be done, but he couldn't throw? Why? I'm going to look at the all 22 film later and see just how deep the routes by the WRs were. I bet they were slow long developing routes.

Either Torrey or Ray was open at the goal line in the middle of the field after running a little post pattern. If the ball was thrown with any amount of timing it's an easy touchdown. But for whatever reason, Joe held the ball way too long. As I watched the play develop I noticed immediately how open the receiver was and that a crisp timing pass gets a TD. Joe was too slow...as usual. You can point to that play as a prime example why Flacco is not and may not ever be an elite quarterback. I'm thinking a more appropriate moniker than Joe Cool would be Slow Joe.

**wickedsolo** · 12-10-2012, 09:27 AM

Originally Posted by Ravensghost

Oher plays better as a Rt.. He is not a Lt. Move KO inside to guard. and Put Big snack back at Lt. With Yanda hurt,
what other choice do we have. The next 2 teams have a nasty pass rush. Do you really want Oher at Lt againts
that.

Statistics would argue against you on Oher being a better RT than LT. Oher played admirably well his rookie year. Perhaps had they left him there, he'd be much better.

Also, are the Broncos ONLY going to line up Von Miller over the LT? What about Elvis Dummerville? Do the Giants only have JPP on the field lined up over LT? Does Justin Tuck pose no threat as a pass rusher over the RT? No, of course not.

The point is, if Oher sucks as a pass blocker at LT then he's probably not going to be much better at RT. The difference in the positions is the first step once the ball is snapped. That's my point.

**Boulderraven** · 12-10-2012, 03:40 PM

Originally Posted by ed from Bel Air

This. As soon as I saw the empty backfield I thought the exact same thing. Our biggest weapon is Rice. Without him in the backfield you rush 6 automatically. You can still cover every receiver, and with the O line spread as it was, someone always gets through. Run a stunt and chances are two get through. An absolutely terrible formation for us, with our shakey O line and "I can't get no" separation receivers.

We think alike, most important thing in football is QB protection and giving him options. That play made for Joe to have a about a 1-2 second window. He threw as he was hit, the only other thing he could do was fall to the ground after seeing pressure in the pocket to preserve the FG chance. Just horrible play design, never had a chance or did Joe. NO QB's are going to do well with a free blitzer and no RB to chip. Cameron blew this call. It never had a chance to be converted.

**Thrall** · 12-10-2012, 04:05 PM

Originally Posted by wickedsolo

Statistics would argue against you on Oher being a better RT than LT. Oher played admirably well his rookie year. Perhaps had they left him there, he'd be much better.

Also, are the Broncos ONLY going to line up Von Miller over the LT? What about Elvis Dummerville? Do the Giants only have JPP on the field lined up over LT? Does Justin Tuck pose no threat as a pass rusher over the RT? No, of course not.

The point is, if Oher sucks as a pass blocker at LT then he's probably not going to be much better at RT. The difference in the positions is the first step once the ball is snapped. That's my point.

You nailed it a while back when you said he should be moved inside. I think he would be very good, if not excellent at LG. He's not a tackle imo.

**Boulderraven** · 12-10-2012, 04:23 PM

With Yanda out and facing two good pass rushing teams, I'd expect max protection alot in both games. Keeping a TE in, a FB in to block and moving KO to RG and maybe Oher to RT and Mckinney to LT, they could put Mckinney at RT and keep Oher at LT as well. But one thing I bet the ranch on is the extra TE and Rb to chip. Caldwell is coming into a rough situation these next 2 weeks, dont expect shootouts cause it may be more of a ball control offense and Qb protection based scheme. Caldwell is coming in at a time in which the scoreboard might not be lit up, but wins are what matters.