Coaching Change -- Cam Cameron has been Fired

**HoustonRaven** · 12-10-2012, 08:49 AM

Originally Posted by Captain Silver

Was he? I totally missed that, would have loved to have seen it. There may be saving Harbaugh after all.

Right before halftime. It was noted several times on the game thread. I have it recorded at home but cannot post here.

**Paintballguy** · 12-10-2012, 08:49 AM

thank god

**RavenScallywag** · 12-10-2012, 08:49 AM

Originally Posted by nickh0801

Found this on twitter...

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Our guess (and it's just a guess at this point): Cam Cameron out and Jim Caldwell in as Ravens O.C. Again, just a guess.
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that's an easy guess. I mean, if you had to pick a coach to be fired in 3 seconds, Cam would have to be the popular vote. And who else besides Caldwell takes over? Hostler????

**NCRAVEN** · 12-10-2012, 08:50 AM

Originally Posted by Captain Silver

Was he? I totally missed that, would have loved to have seen it. There may be saving Harbaugh after all.

He was. It appeared as though there was confusion between Cam and what Flacco did, Harbs was pissed.

**Ravenswintitle** · 12-10-2012, 08:50 AM

Dan Patrick? Very odd source and I can't find anywhere that he actually stated this on twitter or anywhere else.

**Ash55** · 12-10-2012, 08:52 AM

My Monday at work would instantly get better if its Cam who is gone.

**Bhcforlife** · 12-10-2012, 08:52 AM

The Cameron/Caldwell speculation is only because Dungy was on with Dan Patrick when Patrick said the changes were imminent...

**HoustonRaven** · 12-10-2012, 08:53 AM

Originally Posted by Ravenswintitle

Dan Patrick? Very odd source and I can't find anywhere that he actually stated this on twitter or anywhere else.

Just said it on his show, which was picked up by PFT.

**RavenScallywag** · 12-10-2012, 08:54 AM

Originally Posted by Ash55

My Monday at work would instantly get better if its Cam who is gone.

Don't get your hopes up, he said "shake up today or tomorrow".

I still call this a rumour...

**HoustonRaven** · 12-10-2012, 08:54 AM

WNST 8:52am via Web

Drew: I've reached out to #Ravens sources, re: coaching change story, and none have responded. USUALLY that means something's up.

**Ravenblue** · 12-10-2012, 08:54 AM

Whilst I'm not Cam's biggest fan, but I don't understand why they would can him now, so late in the season and after a reasonable offensive showing, when they've had numerous opportunities opportunities in the past.

If (and it's a frankly huge IF) it's true, sounds like an all or nothing decision to really try and stop the rot.

**Justlovemybirds** · 12-10-2012, 08:55 AM

Pee's gets the benefit of the doubt on defense with all the injuries, Rosburg has had the Special Teams operating all season. I can't see it being anywhere but on offense.

**Ravenswintitle** · 12-10-2012, 08:56 AM

Originally Posted by HoustonRaven

Just said it on his show, which was picked up by PFT.

Guess we will see if there's anything to it. still say it's an odd source.

Special teams? I mean they gave up that punt return to lose the game
Defense? Horrible, receivers were wide open all day
Cam? They did put up 28 on the road so I'm not sure it's him.

If it's a position coach, why would that make news?

**Jsmoove** · 12-10-2012, 08:59 AM

they not gonna fire cam this late in the season and having to learn something new, but if there is coaching change it will be Moeller and that is damn good start he is the first on the chopping block!! then we move to Cam.

**NCRAVEN** · 12-10-2012, 09:00 AM

Originally Posted by Ravenswintitle

Guess we will see if there's anything to it. still say it's an odd source.

Special teams? I mean they gave up that punt return to lose the game
Defense? Horrible, receivers were wide open all day
Cam? They did put up 28 on the road so I'm not sure it's him.

If it's a position coach, why would that make news?

Special teams has been the lone bright spot all season, I can't see Rosburg gone becuase Koch out kicked the coverage.

Pees gets a pass becuase injuries our so bad we signed a 33 yr old corner to start.

It has to be offense who scored 21 point in the first half only to score 7 in the second.

It's offense and I am going with Moeller because of the o-line has assisted in the last 3 turnover that directly or indirectly cost us the past two games.

**TheFlacco** · 12-10-2012, 09:00 AM

Originally Posted by Ravenswintitle

Guess we will see if there's anything to it. still say it's an odd source.

Special teams? I mean they gave up that punt return to lose the game
Defense? Horrible, receivers were wide open all day
Cam? They did put up 28 on the road so I'm not sure it's him.

If it's a position coach, why would that make news?

They did put up 28, but they were totally lost when they needed some offense. Terrible overtime possession. Terrible 3rd quarter. I'm not giving the offense a pass just because they hit a certain number of points.

**bt12483** · 12-10-2012, 09:01 AM

Originally Posted by Ravenswintitle

Guess we will see if there's anything to it. still say it's an odd source.

Special teams? I mean they gave up that punt return to lose the game
Defense? Horrible, receivers were wide open all day
Cam? They did put up 28 on the road so I'm not sure it's him.

If it's a position coach, why would that make news?

Special teams has been solid all year. Hard to imagine 1 bad play dooms someone.

The defense has been injury riddled all year. After the bye (and up until the last 2 games) the D has been solid. Hard to replace guys like Webb and Suggs and expect equal production from backups.

The offense has been disappointing all year. Inconsistent all year.

If it is just some silly scape goat please don't waste our time.

**Bhcforlife** · 12-10-2012, 09:03 AM

Just going to say that IF it is Cameron, as much as I want to see him go, it's just going to piss me off even more than I already am now. They've basically wasted an entire season with him calling plays, and they are going to make that change NOW? With three games left? What's the point? I don't get it. You aren't going to change the system at this point and that's what people's primary issue seems to be, so again, what's the point to do it now?

This is just my opinion but such a move now would indicate someone higher than Harbaugh saying something has to change. Don't think Harbaugh "voluntarily" makes this move at this point in the season.

**Jsmoove** · 12-10-2012, 09:04 AM

harbs was diggin in Cam's ass yesterday constantly and it was very apparent something is up because with the play calling before the half Harbs was seen having fit. Who know it could be Cam I wouldn't bet on it though. Obviously there's been communication problems for quite a while now and yesterdays play calling miscue on the first half has been indicative to whats been going on for about 3 seasons now I would say.

**HoustonRaven** · 12-10-2012, 09:04 AM

Originally Posted by TheFlacco

They did put up 28, but they were totally lost when they needed some offense. Terrible overtime possession. Terrible 3rd quarter. I'm not giving the offense a pass just because they hit a certain number of points.

Agreed.

They were dormant for the 2nd and 3rd quarters and during that time, we saw Harbs going ballistic on Cam twice. There was obvious tension there. Then there was that very odd end to the half and game where time was still on the clock and the offense walked off the field (with a time out on the board at the end of regulation).

Now add in the "extension" Cam got at the end of last year, an extension that not one person knows the details of. Try finding it online, and you will not find the terms of said extension.

All that said, that's still smoke and not a lot of fire. Yet.