Coaching Change -- Cam Cameron has been Fired

**NCRAVEN** · 12-10-2012, 10:06 AM

Originally Posted by TL24x7

I sent a note to a source and typically if I'm wrong, they will tell me. If right there's no response or a confirmation.

I asked about Dan Patrick's statements. No response.

Tony, correct me if I am wrong, but I remember you saying Decosta got on you for (something like) reporting a story without confirmation and told you basically what you just said.

All that said, is Decosta the source (fingers crossed)

**ravenjoe** · 12-10-2012, 10:06 AM

Originally Posted by HoustonRaven

Nestor is quoting someone else. Those are not his words.

Appreciate the clarification...

**TL24x7** · 12-10-2012, 10:07 AM

Originally Posted by wickedsolo

Interesting Tony.

So, by your experiences...have you any insight into the general feeling about the offensive side of the ball in the locker room/coaches office/front office?

I cannot fathom that they are all "ok" with how the offense has played on the road this year.

I think there's a bit of a disconnect between the coaches and scouts. And that highly publicized "near mutiny" was put out there on a national level for a reason due to the happy ending, IMO.

**DrUnk** · 12-10-2012, 10:09 AM

Originally Posted by nickh0801

More like a Christmas Present that's 3 years late!!

IF, IF, which I doubt, then indeed it will be. I may need to call out of work tomorrow, because I'll be celebrating all night. More likely, it will be that feeling of getting a fruitcake for Christmas.

**RavenScallywag** · 12-10-2012, 10:09 AM

i did wonder if this might not be a bunch of smoke and mirrors by the PR department to maybe take some focus away from the two losses and not have people outright kicking the team to death...

but seems it might be true.

**Raveninwoodlawn** · 12-10-2012, 10:10 AM

Originally Posted by TL24x7

I think there's a bit of a disconnect between the coaches and scouts.

Never...never a good thing.

**TL24x7** · 12-10-2012, 10:10 AM

Originally Posted by NCRAVEN

Tony, correct me if I am wrong, but I remember you saying Decosta got on you for (something like) reporting a story without confirmation and told you basically what you just said.

All that said, is Decosta the source (fingers crossed)

DeCosta never said those words to me. That came from another contact.

If this all is true, I think it came down from the top. How does Bisciotti know what to pay Flacco if he's still attached to Cameron? Is it Cam? Is it Flacco? Is it Harbaugh? Is it 2 or 3 of the above? Maybe the next 4 games will tell us something.

**Iscull** · 12-10-2012, 10:12 AM

Originally Posted by HoustonRaven

Do you both mean D'Angelo Hall?

LOL. Yeah I don't know why I said Dante...

**NCRAVEN** · 12-10-2012, 10:12 AM

Originally Posted by TL24x7

DeCosta never said those words to me. That came from another contact.

If this all is true, I think it came down from the top. How does Bisciotti know what to pay Flacco if he's still attached to Cameron? Is it Cam? Is it Flacco? Is it Harbaugh? Is it 2 or 3 of the above? Maybe the next 4 games will tell us something.

I think it's the combination.

**Benny8444** · 12-10-2012, 10:14 AM

I agree and can see Biscotti stepping in. A closed door meeting..... That usually means very sensitive. Its 11:15. Harbs usually speaks at 4 we should know something then unless the team decides to leak it before which i dont think will happen knowing how good they are at keeping things quiet.

**Benny8444** · 12-10-2012, 10:16 AM

Originally Posted by NCRAVEN

I think it's the combination.

Its Cam if anyone, Harbs is a Special teams minded coach and Cam has taken the most heat the past few sesasons. Thats why caldwell was brought in.

Since one person said its on a side of the ball we wont expect. How do they know what we expect? The defense has been incosistant but so has the offense but we are 9-4.

**HoustonRaven** · 12-10-2012, 10:18 AM

The longer these rumors sit out in the light of day, the more I think it's Cam. Consider ....

** Zorn gets fired at the end of the 2010 season and Cam takes the duel roll of OC & QB's coach.
** Harbs pulls QB coaching duties from Cam and they bring in Caldwell in 2011.
** Cam is "extended" but not one word of the contract terms, compensation, etc.
** Team has melt down yet Harbs looks like gold at the end of it.
** Harbs is seen more than once yelling at Cam during the game yesterday, one of which was right after the offense strolled off the filed for the first half with time still on the clock.

Lot's of circumstances stacking up here ....

**RavensDomination** · 12-10-2012, 10:20 AM

Originally Posted by Jsmoove

I can't tell when last i seen a slant play here..a WR slant, shit even a TE slant, these are plays that are truely "money" plays in this league.

Especially when most teams play our WR's so close. The slant keeps defenses honest if nothing else. In some occasions DB's will play off of our WR's, but lord knows we would never hit a WR screen or anything. Watch any Steelers or Patriots game and they keep defenses honest all day with delays, screens, and slants.

**HoustonRaven** · 12-10-2012, 10:21 AM

Dan Patrick just reported that the reason for the silence is that not everyone has been notified yet ....

Sounds like they want to dot their "I"'s and cross their "T".s before the presser. Smart.

**Jsmoove** · 12-10-2012, 10:22 AM

Originally Posted by HoustonRaven

The longer these rumors sit out in the light of day, the more I think it's Cam. Consider ....

** Zorn gets fired at the end of the 2010 season and Cam takes the duel roll of OC & QB's coach.
** Harbs pulls QB coaching duties from Cam and they bring in Caldwell in 2011.
** Cam is "extended" but not one word of the contract terms, compensation, etc.
** Team has melt down yet Harbs looks like gold at the end of it.
** Harbs is seen more than once yelling at Cam during the game yesterday, one of which was right after the offense strolled off the filed for the first half with time still on the clock.

Lot's of circumstances stacking up here ....

it sure is looking that way. But why now? if that's the case why waste a whole season that on Cam when if this may be true, shit can him in Feb and see what Joe looks like under a different OC.

**HoustonRaven** · 12-10-2012, 10:22 AM

WNST 10:18am via Web

More from @dpshow: "From what I'm told, not everybody has been informed of this" change on Baltimore Ravens coaching staff.

**ravenjoe** · 12-10-2012, 10:22 AM

Again, if this is in fact happening, I hope it is something that Ozzie and Harbs have decided warrants action, and not an overreaction to external stimuli; otherwise, this team has more serious problems than we are aware of.

**NCRAVEN** · 12-10-2012, 10:22 AM

Originally Posted by HoustonRaven

The longer these rumors sit out in the light of day, the more I think it's Cam. Consider ....

** Zorn gets fired at the end of the 2010 season and Cam takes the duel roll of OC & QB's coach.
** Harbs pulls QB coaching duties from Cam and they bring in Caldwell in 2011.
** Cam is "extended" but not one word of the contract terms, compensation, etc.
** Team has melt down yet Harbs looks like gold at the end of it.
** Harbs is seen more than once yelling at Cam during the game yesterday, one of which was right after the offense strolled off the filed for the first half with time still on the clock.

Lot's of circumstances stacking up here ....

I agree. And also the longer it sits out there, the more I think at least SOMETHING is going to happen. Nothing from the Ravens AT ALL points to something, something big I hope.

**ccoolahan14** · 12-10-2012, 10:22 AM

Cam's GONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

**Jsmoove** · 12-10-2012, 10:23 AM

Originally Posted by RavensDomination

Especially when most teams play our WR's so close. The slant keeps defenses honest if nothing else. In some occasions DB's will play off of our WR's, but lord knows we would never hit a WR screen or anything. Watch any Steelers or Patriots game and they keep defenses honest all day with delays, screens, and slants.

I don't get we ran one TE slant yesterday for 9yrds and it disappeared after that.