Coaching Change -- Cam Cameron has been Fired

[HoustonRaven]

They need to fire Cam Cameron.

Missed the news, huh?

[BigPlayReceiver]

Crazy talk. Harbs is fine. I don't particularly love the man, but he's not going anywhere involuntarily.

[Jsmoove]

I just wish this had happened after the bye week. I really think we would have won one of these last two games.
one thought on offense/defense; the days of holding NFL teams under 17 points is gone. any decent team will score 20 (remember the Raiders did). part of the D problem yesterday was the O's three/outs, as well as the turnovers.
I sure hope Coach Caldwell put bring some of his Indy/Peyton mojo to work here!

thats what i'm hoping for myself, Imma little leary with Jim because he has never been an OC but I trust this FO knows what it is doing.

[Captain Silver]

Harbaugh is on three years notice

[NOLARavenFAN]

And what does that have to do with Harbs?

It's Ozzie sitting on the other side of the table, not Harbs, negotiating the deal.

Nothing, Harbs stays either way. All Biscuit/Oz/Harnaugh want to see what to do about Flacco, so they have to rule out Cam Cameron is being the problem.

[Jsmoove]

They need to fire Cam Cameron.

dude you aight?

[TTRaven]

I know the source NCRaven is referring to. I'm just posting what that source has said. Believe it if you want.

[BigPlayReceiver]

They need to fire Cam Cameron.

Um...

[JohnBKistler]

This is a very well, thought-out post. Lots of good information and grounded speculation here.

My only quibble (or the one thing I want to quibble about here) is this:

And there is almost zero downside risk.

To me, the biggest risk is that 3, 4 or 5 games is a damn small sample size to judge a player or a coach.

And is your playoff calculations correct? Has that been confirmed anywhere?

[NCRAVEN]

I know the source NCRaven is referring to. I'm just posting what that source has said. Believe it if you want.

Are you my friends source

[lobachevsky]

It's reliable. The entire coaching staff could be gone(including Harbaugh) if things don't improve over these last 3 games.

I agree with most of the board that you can't really blame Pees given the list of major injuries (which it should be noted have before this week almost exclusively come on defense).

But I think if the offense doesn't show some signs of life, the purge may not be over on that side of the ball. Moeller probably needs to go regardless but Hostetler may not be far behind.

And they might also want to re-evaluate their back-end-of-the-roster policies--how many good backups have they passed on in favor of a player who might be slightly better at special teams?

[Tyrian]

WNST ‏@WNST
@DonsAndDukes Drew: Don't need to cite them. That would be unfair to them. Bisciotti was directly involved. End of story.
WNST ‏@WNST
Drew: #Bisciotti has been "sketchy" (words of a source) all season about this #Ravens team...expected a lot more from them

It is WNST, but wonder if it's all the same source!

The only way Harbs is going is if he's lost the locker room.

[Shambla]

I just wish this had happened after the bye week.

I was actually thinking before we hit our bye that it would be a perfect time for the switch. We had just slept walk through the Texans game. If you make the switch on that Monday you give Caldwell an extra week and then you can ease into the job against the Browns and the Raiders.

[Jsmoove]

WNST ‏@WNST
@DonsAndDukes Drew: Don't need to cite them. That would be unfair to them. Bisciotti was directly involved. End of story.
WNST ‏@WNST
Drew: #Bisciotti has been "sketchy" (words of a source) all season about this #Ravens team...expected a lot more from them

It is WNST, but wonder if it's all the same source!

The only way Harbs is going is if he's lost the locker room.

i think firing cam brought the locker room back...not for sure but if Steve B wasn't happy with this offense i'm sure ALOT of players weren't happy with it as well.

[Bhcforlife]

If Harbaugh doesn't get over the hump this year, I could see his seat getting hotter next year, but I can't believe he's in any real jeopardy right now.

That is, of course, subject to change...if the Ravens somehow manage to lose out and go out with a whimper in the first round of the playoffs...who knows? It's not like it hasn't happened before, see Tony Dungy.

[wickedsolo]

Not sure of the reliability of the news.

But I am hearing that the team is playing for Harbaugh's job too.

Which could be why he didn't something he didn't want to do and fired a friend.

I'd be real surprised if Harbaugh was on the hot seat.

I'm not going to say it is impossible, but there would have to be some major - and I mean MAJOR - issues in the locker room if the team isn't behind Harbaugh.

[s.r.genovese]

WNST ‏@WNST
@DonsAndDukes Drew: Don't need to cite them. That would be unfair to them. Bisciotti was directly involved. End of story.
WNST ‏@WNST
Drew: #Bisciotti has been "sketchy" (words of a source) all season about this #Ravens team...expected a lot more from them

It is WNST, but wonder if it's all the same source!

The only way Harbs is going is if he's lost the locker room.

So the Ravens kept a tight lid on the firing since 7:00 PM Sunday, so much so that Aaron Wilson went on the radio like an hour before the firing and said he doubted it would happen.

Yet now "sources" inside the Ravens are telling Drew that Bisciotti was directly involved? I highly doubt that. No one knows anything at this point.

[Jsmoove]

Bisciotti had to be involved.

[TTRaven]

Are you my friends source

No. Sent you a PM

[B-more Ravor]

So the Ravens kept a tight lid on the firing since 7:00 PM Sunday, so much so that Aaron Wilson went on the radio like an hour before the firing and said he doubted it would happen.

Yet now "sources" inside the Ravens are telling Drew that Bisciotti was directly involved? I highly doubt that.

According to Aaron, decision made last night, firing happened this AM...

Aaron Wilson ‏@RavensInsider
Hearing the decision to fire Cam Cameron was made last night at roughly 7 p.m., then carried out this morning.