OT steelers or bengals..

**Complex** · 12-15-2012, 08:26 AM

Good point. I wonder if the days of undefeated seasons are gone. Is that good or bad? It sure will make for more of an accomplishment that is for sure.

Originally Posted by PerpetuallyBored74

In this salary cap era, with the parity it produces, there's not much disparity in talent. So in this era, coaching and the QB have a significant impact on how well a team plays (or doesn't play). That even a tremendously talented team can't overcome bad/mediocre coaching or QB play anymore.

That's why I feel the Steelers, even with all their injuries and flaws, are still the main threat to the Ravens for the division.

**Bhcforlife** · 12-15-2012, 08:58 AM

Steelers with a healthy Roethlisberger are right there with the Patriots and Broncos as the best in the AFC. The Bengals are not and until they show they can beat the Ravens and Steelers, they don't even deserve to be in the same conversation. Next two weeks are big for them. Bengals have given me no indication that if they make the playoffs, they won't go out in the same way they did last year - the only teams of note they've actually beaten this year have been the Giants and Redskins. If they get in as the 6, they'll likely play the Patriots or Broncos, and get destroyed.

**CincyCat** · 12-15-2012, 04:39 PM

Originally Posted by Ravenswintitle

Agree with those comments, hell, Marvin Lewis is the third best coach on his own team

Ha! Funny but so true.

**GOTA** · 12-15-2012, 04:47 PM

Originally Posted by Ravenswintitle

Agree with those comments, hell, Marvin Lewis is the third best coach on his own team

That's funny. You have to give Marvin credit though for picking up some pretty good coordinators. Gruden wasn't even in the NFL and he's comes in with all sort of new and creative ideas. That guy is going get a head coaching job eventually.

**CincyCat** · 12-15-2012, 05:18 PM

Originally Posted by GOTA

That's funny. You have to give Marvin credit though for picking up some pretty good coordinators. Gruden wasn't even in the NFL and he's comes in with all sort of new and creative ideas. That guy is going get a head coaching job eventually.

Yes he will. So will Zimmer. I wonder if Philly will come calling.

**Ravenswintitle** · 12-15-2012, 05:23 PM

Originally Posted by CincyCat

Yes he will. So will Zimmer. I wonder if Philly will come calling.

There will be several vacancies this offseason and Zimmer is bound to get a HC job if he wants one. He's done a helluva job and certainly deserves the chance.

**Big Bird** · 12-15-2012, 11:12 PM

I can't forget that the stillers always seem to win when they have to. Ben Rothlesberger scares the shit outta me and he is the key to Pitts offense. Their defense can take care of themselves. The guy is a prick but he is one of the best 3 QBs going. His presence serves to peak the other O players. I just hope that somehow they lose and the ravens do not have to meet them in the playoffs. Thats a lot to ask for given the way the Ravens and Cinci are playing. Bottom line is the Ravens have to win to make the division crown and the playoffs. Don't know where that win will come from.