Not a good sign...

**esmd** · 12-14-2012, 07:13 AM

...when Josh Bynes is the guy with the headset QB-ing the defense.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/r...,4669406.story

**Ravenswintitle** · 12-14-2012, 07:17 AM

If they can't get some guys back on defense, and they field the same group as in Washington, it's gonna be a blowout

**Paintballguy** · 12-14-2012, 07:18 AM

If we get Ellerbe back, I won't be as worried.

**wickedsolo** · 12-14-2012, 07:23 AM

Why isn't Pollard the guy with the head set?

**Paintballguy** · 12-14-2012, 07:25 AM

Originally Posted by wickedsolo

Why isn't Pollard the guy with the head set?

To me it wouldn't make sense having the safety make the calls. The ILB is in the middle of everyone and close to the line.

**HKusp** · 12-14-2012, 07:27 AM

Ellerbe had limited reps yesterday, hopefully he can go. Suggs had full participation, hopefully he can go. It doesn't matter who has the speakers and is giving the calls to the guys on the field. Pees is making the calls, the guy communicates it to the rest of the players. No biggie. The more important thing, obviously, is who is on the field. The guy communicating the call from Pees is a small detail.

**RavensNTerps** · 12-14-2012, 07:29 AM

this game has blowout written all over it

**wickedsolo** · 12-14-2012, 07:32 AM

Originally Posted by Paintballguy

To me it wouldn't make sense having the safety make the calls. The ILB is in the middle of everyone and close to the line.

I disagree with that.

Pollard plays up around the LOS a lot and is one of the vocal leaders on the entire team.

**Paintballguy** · 12-14-2012, 07:36 AM

Originally Posted by wickedsolo

I disagree with that.

Pollard plays up around the LOS a lot and is one of the vocal leaders on the entire team.

Yeah, I agree that he plays up a lot in the Cover 3 type looks, and he is a leader. But the guy with the radio is just relaying what Pees calls.

**Paintballguy** · 12-14-2012, 07:46 AM

"Say the offense has three wides and the safety gets run off way down the field on a deep route," defensive coordinator Brian Stewart says. "Now he has to sprint back to the huddle and tell everybody what the call is. The linebacker is more often around the middle of the field."

From an article I found.

**wickedsolo** · 12-14-2012, 07:50 AM

Originally Posted by Paintballguy

"Say the offense has three wides and the safety gets run off way down the field on a deep route," defensive coordinator Brian Stewart says. "Now he has to sprint back to the huddle and tell everybody what the call is. The linebacker is more often around the middle of the field."

From an article I found.

Makes sense.

**dscola31** · 12-14-2012, 08:07 AM

There are few occasions where I would pick my team to get blown out. Thi sis mot 1 of them. We have 1 of the most resilient teams in the league. We will find a way to keep it tight and possibly get the win.

**Corey** · 12-14-2012, 08:10 AM

Originally Posted by dscola31

There are few occasions where I would pick my team to get blown out. Thi sis mot 1 of them. We have 1 of the most resilient teams in the league. We will find a way to keep it tight and possibly get the win.

Agreed. The Ravens will find a way to get it done, they do more often than not at home.

**saintmatthew** · 12-14-2012, 08:44 AM

Last I had heard, even when Ray was in he didn't wear it because he kept breaking it hitting people so hard, and Ed didn't like it because it messed with his concentration. This was a couple years ago though. I think Jim Leonard wore it back then.

**HoustonRaven** · 12-14-2012, 08:47 AM

Originally Posted by saintmatthew

Last I had heard, even when Ray was in he didn't wear it because he kept breaking it hitting people so hard, and Ed didn't like it because it messed with his concentration. This was a couple years ago though. I think Jim Leonard wore it back then.

Ray always has it when he's in the game. Just look for the little green sticker on the back of his helmet.

**esmd** · 12-14-2012, 10:36 AM

Originally Posted by HKusp

Ellerbe had limited reps yesterday, hopefully he can go. Suggs had full participation, hopefully he can go. It doesn't matter who has the speakers and is giving the calls to the guys on the field. Pees is making the calls, the guy communicates it to the rest of the players. No biggie. The more important thing, obviously, is who is on the field. The guy communicating the call from Pees is a small detail.

Right, but my point is, if someone had told you three months ago that Josh Bynes would be our defensive signal caller in Week 15, would you have said no big deal? I think not. This season has been a train wreck of injuries on this defense. That, more than the offense, is what's ailing this team right now.

**JustaslowZ06** · 12-14-2012, 01:23 PM

Yeah NM the fact of who has the headset, the bottom line is Bynes is the starter is what is the train wreck about it. Fielding him and a 36 yr old STeamer as your strting MLB's is screaming oh hell.

And to think like I said in another thread, Burfict wen't undrafted. WHO did we pick in the 6th and 7th rounds?????

**jonboy79** · 12-14-2012, 01:35 PM

Originally Posted by JustaslowZ06

Yeah NM the fact of who has the headset, the bottom line is Bynes is the starter is what is the train wreck about it. Fielding him and a 36 yr old STeamer as your strting MLB's is screaming oh hell.

And to think like I said in another thread, Burfict wen't undrafted. WHO did we pick in the 6th and 7th rounds?????

Tommy Streeter and DeAngelo Tyson.

Stereter is a raw specimen and Tyson has already shown a little, at a position also of need. I'm not terribly disappointed we selected those two over Burfict, but with 20/20 hindsight glasses he could be helping out here right now.

**Bhcforlife** · 12-14-2012, 01:47 PM

Why wouldn't Suggs wear it then, or Ngata? I had wondered why Reed or Pollard wouldn't wear it but it makes sense about being downfield. I guess the logic then would be that Ngata doesn't play every snap and Suggs may not with his injury, but surely Josh Bynes isn't going to play every down? If he does.........lol.