Steelers Lose - Ravens are in the Playoffs (Merged)

**RockyMRaven** · 12-16-2012, 07:09 PM

Originally Posted by HoustonRaven

The way this team backed into the playoffs is very much like a 90 yr old backing into a parking spot at the grocery store.

Right now, we have backed in, but there are 2 more games to go. Win the division and we go into the playoffs facing forward. I have been feeling horrible all day, but at least this gives me a little lift and a ray of light in the darkness.

**lowrider** · 12-16-2012, 07:09 PM

Almost a pick six by big ben in OT. I think they should trade him and fire tomlin. And while they're at it they should also fire Haley.

**RockyMRaven** · 12-16-2012, 07:11 PM

Originally Posted by lobachevsky

for the 5th straight year:

Dallas 27, Pittsburgh 24 (FINAL-OT)

Pig Ben INT on the second play of OT, returned to the PGH 1-yard line. Apparently Joe's not the only AFCN QB who can pound a stake through his own team's heart...

And isn't Ben Roethlisberger an elite QB? Yet he threw the pick that lost the game. And isn't Matthew Stafford regarded as being a very good quarterback? Well, he threw TWO pick-6's today.

**MarkS** · 12-16-2012, 07:12 PM

Originally Posted by Boulderraven

Will depend on what happens at 1 pm between Pitt and Cincy. If Pitt wins most everyone will be rested.

I think we also need to look at the results of the NE/SF game - If the Pats lose to drop to 10-4, there is still some reasonable chance that we could get the #3 seed, and that has some potential advantages in terms of hosting a 2nd playoff game. It's a bit of a long-shot, but it's not out of the question.

**Ravenswintitle** · 12-16-2012, 07:13 PM

Wahoo

**Dirt1** · 12-16-2012, 07:16 PM

So, if I am not mistaken, the Ravens can lose the last two games and still win the division if the Steelers beat the Bengals next week. If that happens, I say rest as many players as possible in week 17. The Ravens need to get as many guys back as possible.

**FlawlessVictory** · 12-16-2012, 07:17 PM

Originally Posted by RockyMRaven

And isn't Ben Roethlisberger an elite QB? Yet he threw the pick that lost the game. And isn't Matthew Stafford regarded as being a very good quarterback? Well, he threw TWO pick-6's today.

You can't spell elite without ELI...

13/25, 161 yds, 0 TD, 2 INT

**ballhawk** · 12-16-2012, 07:18 PM

Ill take it...still pissed though. LOL

**MarkS** · 12-16-2012, 07:19 PM

Originally Posted by Corey

Does it really matter? Once the post season starts records go out the window anyway. It's anyone's ball game.

True. The last two SB champions both "backed into" the playoffs.

**Ravenboy2003** · 12-16-2012, 07:25 PM

Bizarre... We'll be rooting FOR the Steelers next week..

**Ravenswintitle** · 12-16-2012, 07:27 PM

Originally Posted by Ravenboy2003

Bizarre... We'll be rooting FOR the Steelers next week..

Just think of it as rooting against Cinci

**lobachevsky** · 12-16-2012, 07:27 PM

Originally Posted by Shambla

A loss by Cincinnati will net the division. At least we can salvage our trophy case.

Originally Posted by Dade

How does it feel to be the Steelers next week. If they beat Cincy they hand us the division...if they lose it hurts their playoff chances and they would lose to CINCY. LOL

Originally Posted by Beerracuda

The Ravens don't play until 4 PM, which means the division may be decided by kickoff if Cincy loses to Pit. If that happens, the remaining games are rather meaningless, since we'll likely only get the #4 seed.

NO, NO, NO--THIS IS NOT TRUE!!

If PGH wins out & BAL loses out, then all 3 are 9-7. However, the first tiebreaker is games played against the other teams they are tied with in the division: BAL would be 2-2, CIN 1-3, and PGH 3-1 (having swept CIN).

In which case the Stealers win the AFCN

& the Ravens are likely headed to either Denver or Foxboro as the #6 seed while Pittsburgh hosts Indy.

(And just FTR I stated this in my thread of last Sunday. You could look it up.)

The only way remaining for the Ravens to "back into" the division title would be for PGH to defeat CIN but then lose (or tie!) at home vs CLE in week 17. Absent that, the Ravens still have to win (or tie!) one more game for the #4 seed.

So next week's game will still matter for seeding regardless of the outcome of CIN@PGH earlier.

**Boulderraven** · 12-16-2012, 07:28 PM

Originally Posted by MarkS

I think we also need to look at the results of the NE/SF game - If the Pats lose to drop to 10-4, there is still some reasonable chance that we could get the #3 seed, and that has some potential advantages in terms of hosting a 2nd playoff game. It's a bit of a long-shot, but it's not out of the question.

Dont want 3 seed. Want 4 seed. Have Steelers vs Denver matchup. Colts vs Ravens matchup. Denver can lose that game easily. Pittsburgh is NEVER an easy out in playoffs and could also win in Houston or NE as well. Avoid Steelers til AFCCG, IMO.

**edgecrusher** · 12-16-2012, 07:28 PM

Just goes to show how far ahead the Ravens were before the collapse and how pitiful the division has been. Is this the first time the Ravens have backed into the playoffs in such a sad fashion?

**Corey** · 12-16-2012, 07:29 PM

Originally Posted by lobachevsky

Um, as it turns out, that's not quite true.

If PGH wins out & BAL loses out, then all 3 are 9-7. However, the first tiebreaker is games played against the other teams they are tied with in the division: BAL would be 2-2, CIN 1-3, and PGH 3-1 (having swept CIN).

In which case the Stealers win the AFCN

& the Ravens are likely headed to either Denver or Foxboro as the #6 seed while Pittsburgh hosts Indy.

The only way remaining for the Ravens to "back into" the division title would be for PGH to defeat CIN but then lose (or tie!) at home vs CLE in week 17. Absent that, the Ravens still have to win (or tie!) one more game for the #4 seed.

So next week's game will still matter for seeding regardless of the outcome of CIN@PGH earlier.

The lucky bastards still control their own destiny. Good to know. You've been on top of these scenario's man. Nice job.

**Boulderraven** · 12-16-2012, 07:30 PM

Originally Posted by lobachevsky

Um, as it turns out, that's not quite true.

If PGH wins out & BAL loses out, then all 3 are 9-7. However, the first tiebreaker is games played against the other teams they are tied with in the division: BAL would be 2-2, CIN 1-3, and PGH 3-1 (having swept CIN).

In which case the Stealers win the AFCN

& the Ravens are likely headed to either Denver or Foxboro as the #6 seed while Pittsburgh hosts Indy.

The only way remaining for the Ravens to "back into" the division title would be for PGH to defeat CIN but then lose (or tie!) at home vs CLE in week 17. Absent that, the Ravens still have to win (or tie!) one more game for the #4 seed.

So next week's game will still matter for seeding regardless of the outcome of CIN@PGH earlier.

Wrong. You are forgetting Pittsburgh lost to Cleveland. If Pitt wins next week Ravens win division. Pittsburgh has already been eliminated from any chance of winning division with loss today.

**Ravens75** · 12-16-2012, 07:32 PM

Look I get that most everyone is frustrated because the Ravens haven't looked good but the reality is that this stuff happens. Look at the last two SB champs who were battered by injury and had 8-6 and 7-7 records at the same point of the season.

I am in no way trying to say that the Ravens will all of a sudden catch lightning in a bottle but at least they are in and in all probability will be the AFC division champs.

Win next week to feel good about yourselves. Rest in week 17 and play the Colts at home and see what happens. Wouldn't surprise me to see the Steelers take out the Broncos in the WC round and maybe the Texans in the Divisional. The Ravens have no fear of going into Foxboro.

Despite the serious flaws on this team, you never no what can happen in the playoffs.

**Section 502 Raven** · 12-16-2012, 07:34 PM

i'd like to see more of Hall and Tyson. their reps have seemed to disappear.

**Boulderraven** · 12-16-2012, 07:36 PM

Originally Posted by Boulderraven

Wrong. You are forgetting Pittsburgh lost to Cleveland. If Pitt wins next week Ravens win division. Pittsburgh has already been eliminated from any chance of winning division with loss today.

All 3 teams tied at 9-7 goes to division record, Ravens 4-2, Pitt 4-2, Cincy 2-4. then common opponets, Ravens have won that based on Pittsburgh loss to Dallas today. Ravens have 5 game lead with not enough games to make up, then next tiebreaker is conference record. Ravens lost 2 game to NFC while Pittsburgh 1.

**Raveninwoodlawn** · 12-16-2012, 07:39 PM

Originally Posted by Boulderraven

Wrong. You are forgetting Pittsburgh lost to Cleveland. If Pitt wins next week Ravens win division. Pittsburgh has already been eliminated from any chance of winning division with loss today.

Cleveland is not in the scenario. It's not overall divisional record, it's the record of the tied teams against each other. Pitt would be 3-1...beat us once and swept Cincy. We would be 2-2...split against both Pitt and Cincy. And Cincy would be 1-3...only beating us once.