Ed Reed needs to go

[PerpetuallyBored74]

With that shoulder/neck, Ed should just retire, or if he really wants a shot at a ring, then he should go to a team that can win now and ride the bench as a backup.

But Ed's got too much drive and too much pride to do either.
He;ll probably get the Ray Lewis treatment from our FO: go test the free agency market and when you see there's no interest in a 35 year old safety with a chronic injury, then he'll come back to the Ravens, if they still want him, for a 2 year deal at a cap friendly, reasonable price.

[HoustonRaven]

I agree he doesn't "need" to go. Even hurt, he's still someone other teams have to game plan for.

But I cannot see this FO giving in to his contract demands. He's good, but I'm getting the sense he's burned a bridge or two with his antics so I'm not so sure the team wants him back.

[iggyman555]

vinny cerrato is saying on the fan that that td to decker was cary's fault...on that play ed had the underneath and cary was supposed to get deep...cary admitted it on 'one winning drive'

[festivus]

I agree he doesn't "need" to go.

Houston, the hysteria train is clearly leaving the station, and you are missing it. Shame on you.

[Captain Silver]

Houston, the hysteria train is clearly leaving the station, and you are missing it. Shame on you.

There is no hysteria, if dude doesn't want vet minimum, he can walk. They need to start trimming the roster from old expensive players and start getting younger and dudes that can tackle.

[wickedsolo]

There is no hysteria, if dude doesn't want vet minimum, he can walk. They need to start trimming the roster from old expensive players and start getting younger and dudes that can tackle.

A lot of folks had problems with letting Mason and Heap go as well.

The NFL is a young man's game.

[Captain Silver]

A lot of folks had problems with letting Mason and Heap go as well.

The NFL is a young man's game.

Exactly, I look to New England and yes, they have Brady so they have a large amount of consitantcy because of this. But they also jettison players as their clock comes ticking down and get young. Sure they post better records because their division sucks.

[trailhiker85]

As the season has worn on, I've come around more and more to the idea that this should be Ed's last year as a Raven. Shoulder/neck issues notwithstanding, tackling continues to be an issue. Further, I seem to observe increased instances of his being caught out of position. While this has always been an issue due to his gambling, his gambles now are paying off less frequently due to reduced athleticism, and the results are more plays being made against our secondary. The occasional flashy interception (complete with heart-stopping runback) simply isn't worth it.

I love what Ed has done in Baltimore, but it's time to find a younger and cheaper option.

[wickedsolo]

Exactly, I look to New England and yes, they have Brady so they have a large amount of consitantcy because of this. But they also jettison players as their clock comes ticking down and get young. Sure they post better records because their division sucks.

Their division really isn't very good.

[Benny8444]

vinny cerrato is saying on the fan that that td to decker was cary's fault...on that play ed had the underneath and cary was supposed to get deep...cary admitted it on 'one winning drive'

I agree with this. Cary got caught peeping in the back field and that is how Decker got the extra step on Williams. He should know not to peep in the backfield.

CMac did it all the time late in his career and was burned by Guess who? Manning.

[Benny8444]

they will offer Ed a deal proably more than we would get anywhere else but less than he wants. If Flacco signs i can see the Franchise Tag for him and we draft a safety this year or next year.

we dont have anyone to take over for Ed.

Other positions we have players who can take over

Kruger (Upshaw)
Boldin (Doss)
C. Williams (Grahm)
Birk (Gino)

The rest can be gotten in the draft. It is deep on the D and O line this year which happens to be our biggest needs.

I dont see us drafting a WR/RB/OLB

We usually like to take a CB in the middle rounds so that will happen again but I want to see what Asa can do after sitting for a year to develop, he will prob compete with C. Brown for the 4th CB spot.

[festivus]

There is no hysteria, if dude doesn't want vet minimum, he can walk. They need to start trimming the roster from old expensive players and start getting younger and dudes that can tackle.

The difference between "I cannot see the FO giving in to his contract demands" and "Ed Reed needs to go" is hysteria. The words may have the same practical effect, but hysteria is a tone, an atmosphere, not a point by itself. And it is not becoming.

Hysteria can also produce specious claims not supported by facts, such as "Harbaugh keeps throwing bad replay flags." Hysteria is ugly. A person can make a good point calmly, supported by real facts and not imagined ones.

Don't let me get in the way, though. Carry on with your pitchforks and torches.

[Jsmoove]

While it will be sad to see Ed leave the fact is Reed is not the same player anymore, for a cap friendly contract yes, but nothing more, time to get younger with better tackling.

[Captain Silver]

The difference between "I cannot see the FO giving in to his contract demands" and "Ed Reed needs to go" is hysteria. The words may have the same practical effect, but hysteria is a tone, an atmosphere, not a point by itself. And it is not becoming.

Hysteria can also produce specious claims not supported by facts, such as "Harbaugh keeps throwing bad replay flags." Hysteria is ugly. A person can make a good point calmly, supported by real facts and not imagined ones.

Don't let me get in the way, though. Carry on with your pitchforks and torches.

Are we talking football or cucumber sandwiches and 4 o'clock tea? Hysteria? Seriously?

1: a psychoneurosis marked by emotional excitability and disturbances of the psychic, sensory, vasomotor, and visceral functions.

2: behavior exhibiting overwhelming or unmanageable fear or emotional excess.

A 34 year old football player, who played his postition at the highest level for most of his career. A player who is also suffering from a neck/nerve impingement. A player who has clearly slowed and his gambling style cannot make up for his lack of speed.

A player, who has been 'disrespected' according to him over contracts and seemingly threatens to retire every year?

I don't see how cutting ties is hysteria. No one is screaming cut him, bench him. But his time in a Raven uniform is coming to an end. There is no one better? Right now, sure. But next year, it is time to start life without him back there.

Now, allow me to move aside so you may carry on with your hyperbole of my opinion.

[trailhiker85]

A 34 year old football player, who played his postition at the highest level for most of his career. A player who is also suffering from a neck/nerve impingement. A player who has clearly slowed and his gambling style cannot make up for his lack of speed.

A player, who has been 'disrespected' according to him over contracts and seemingly threatens to retire every year?

I don't see how cutting ties is hysteria. No one is screaming cut him, bench him. But his time in a Raven uniform is coming to an end. There is no one better? Right now, sure. But next year, it is time to start life without him back there.

This.

[Jsmoove]

Are we talking football or cucumber sandwiches and 4 o'clock tea? Hysteria? Seriously?

1: a psychoneurosis marked by emotional excitability and disturbances of the psychic, sensory, vasomotor, and visceral functions.

2: behavior exhibiting overwhelming or unmanageable fear or emotional excess.

A 34 year old football player, who played his postition at the highest level for most of his career. A player who is also suffering from a neck/nerve impingement. A player who has clearly slowed and his gambling style cannot make up for his lack of speed.

A player, who has been 'disrespected' according to him over contracts and seemingly threatens to retire every year?

I don't see how cutting ties is hysteria. No one is screaming cut him, bench him. But his time in a Raven uniform is coming to an end. There is no one better? Right now, sure. But next year, it is time to start life without him back there.

Now, allow me to move aside so you may carry on with your hyperbole of my opinion.

touche' Cap

[festivus]

I don't see how cutting ties is hysteria. No one is screaming cut him, bench him. But his time in a Raven uniform is coming to an end. There is no one better? Right now, sure. But next year, it is time to start life without him back there.

I thought I was clear about this: I'm not saying it's wrong to cut ties. I have kids, sometimes they're hysterical about things. It doesn't mean they're wrong, it just means they're being hysterical.

Say Ed Reed's contract demands are too high for what he brings to the table. Say it does not make sense to invest too much into the free safety position. Say this is / should be / probably (pick one or more) his last year wearing the purple. I would agree with all those things.

But saying "Ed Reed needs to go" is being hysterical.

Your accusation of hyperbole is showing, Captain.

This.

Ok, that's a valuable addition to the conversation. Thanks.

[HoustonRaven]

Ok, that's a valuable addition to the conversation. Thanks.

"This" is message board slang for "I agree" or

What's wrong with it?

[festivus]

"This" is message board slang for "I agree" or

What's wrong with it?

It literally adds nothing to a conversation. Without giving a reason, "I agree" adds no more than "I disagree," neither of which helps me think about what's being discussed. I know it's common, but it still gets on my nerves and occasionally I grumble.

Unless - literally - your name is "BMore Ravor" or "FilmStudy," a flat "I agree" means nothing to me, because I don't care.

I'm probably not the only one who feels that way, but I might be.

/shrug

[Captain Silver]

I thought I was clear about this: I'm not saying it's wrong to cut ties. I have kids, sometimes they're hysterical about things. It doesn't mean they're wrong, it just means they're being hysterical.

Say Ed Reed's contract demands are too high for what he brings to the table. Say it does not make sense to invest too much into the free safety position. Say this is / should be / probably (pick one or more) his last year wearing the purple. I would agree with all those things.

But saying "Ed Reed needs to go" is being hysterical.

Your accusation of hyperbole is showing, Captain.


Ok, that's a valuable addition to the conversation. Thanks.

Mmmmyeah... it is a message board dude, not a court of law. I talk, type, like a human. Ed Reed needs to stay at nothing more than vet minimum. There, happy? Not hysteria, opinion.

Jeeesh....

It literally adds nothing to a conversation. Without giving a reason, "I agree" adds no more than "I disagree," neither of which helps me think about what's being discussed. I know it's common, but it still gets on my nerves and occasionally I grumble.

Unless - literally - your name is "BMore Ravor" or "FilmStudy," a flat "I agree" means nothing to me, because I don't care.

I'm probably not the only one who feels that way, but I might be.

/shrug

Switch to decaf.