Some Inside Info

**Paintballguy** · 12-19-2012, 07:27 AM

Hey guys, I just was privy to some inside info from a source that is a coach on the Ravens staff.

Supposedly Harbaugh is safe for right now. Norv Turner is a likely candidate to be the OC next year. He also said that Cameron would panic if he called a running play that went nowhere, and he'd throw out all the running plays and go straight pass. (We've seen it in the games). Confirmed that Cameron thought he was always right and nobody liked dealing with him. He also said that Cameron's son was getting hazed in school about Cameron's play calling. They offered Wilbert the OC job first, but he declined it. The FO told him he'd be guaranteed a job if they shook up the coaching staff. Also, look for a lot of coaching/player shakeup this offseason. The FO and coaches are unhappy with Flacco's play, but they want to bring him back. Ed Reed and Ray Lewis are gone. I heard Ray Lewis could potentially be a LB coach if he wanted to do it.

**leachisabeast** · 12-19-2012, 07:39 AM

I'm hearing sources that Steve Biscotti is pissed with Harbaugh right now.

**RavensQB** · 12-19-2012, 07:40 AM

Go look at the coaches that are not the big names. Then look at the area they are from. Philly, NJ. That was the first 2 I looked at wow.

http://www.baltimoreravens.com/team/coaches/Juney_Barnett/9cc25705-cd74-4ef4-83c0-e4cf308187c5

http://www.baltimoreravens.com/team/...1-451486162fa2

http://www.baltimoreravens.com/team/...3-a258d8c4bfb0

The last one is a FAVORITE.

Matt Weiss began his NFL coaching career with the Ravens in 2009, spending three seasons as the head coach’s assistant. In February 2012, he was promoted to defensive quality control.

**leachisabeast** · 12-19-2012, 07:41 AM

''The FO and coaches are unhappy with Flacco's play, but they want to bring him back.''

That says to me, they want him back at the original deal they offered him. Not at the deal Flacco wanted.

**Paintballguy** · 12-19-2012, 07:46 AM

Originally Posted by leachisabeast

''The FO and coaches are unhappy with Flacco's play, but they want to bring him back.''

That says to me, they want him back at the original deal they offered him. Not at the deal Flacco wanted.

I didn't ask about the contract, but that would make sense to me. He mentioned they have a lot of holes to fill, so that would tell me that they don't want to give him a ton of $$.

**pslholder96** · 12-19-2012, 07:56 AM

Originally Posted by Paintballguy

Hey guys, I just was privy to some inside info from a source that is a coach on the Ravens staff.

Supposedly Harbaugh is safe for right now. Norv Turner is a likely candidate to be the OC next year. He also said that Cameron would panic if he called a running play that went nowhere, and he'd throw out all the running plays and go straight pass. (We've seen it in the games). Confirmed that Cameron thought he was always right and nobody liked dealing with him. He also said that Cameron's son was getting hazed in school about Cameron's play calling. lol They offered Wilbert the OC job first, but he declined it. The FO told him he'd be guaranteed a job if they shook up the coaching staff. Also, look for a lot of coaching/player shakeup this offseason. The FO and coaches are unhappy with Flacco's play, but they want to bring him back. Ed Reed and Ray Lewis are gone. I heard Ray Lewis could potentially be a LB coach if he wanted to do it.

So your source says "Ed Reed and Ray Lewis" are gone? Was he offering his opinion or did he state this as mostly "fact".
Wilbert Montgomery was offered the OC position first? Hmmm. That's quite telling.

**pslholder96** · 12-19-2012, 07:59 AM

Originally Posted by leachisabeast

''The FO and coaches are unhappy with Flacco's play, but they want to bring him back.''

That says to me, they want him back at the original deal they offered him. Not at the deal Flacco wanted.

And based on Flacco's up and down play the Ravens have all the leverage, if the season were to end today of course.

**wickedsolo** · 12-19-2012, 08:03 AM

You should ask your source if the coaches, front office, or players ever read this forum.

I'd actually be pretty interested in that.

**Ravenalytics** · 12-19-2012, 08:03 AM

It makes me happy to know that they offered Montgomery the job. If he turned it down, that's his own prerogative, but I'm happy the organization made that an option of theirs.

**wickedsolo** · 12-19-2012, 08:04 AM

So, if they bring on Norv Turner, or whoever else, are they going to keep Jim Caldwell?

**PerpetuallyBored74** · 12-19-2012, 08:08 AM

Originally Posted by pslholder96

So your source says "Ed Reed and Ray Lewis" are gone? Was he offering his opinion or did he state this as mostly "fact".
Wilbert Montgomery was offered the OC position first? Hmmm. That's quite telling.

It could be because they believed he was a better candidate for OC then Caldwell.

Or it could be that they wanted to keep Caldwell at QB coach because they felt that's where he could help Flacco the most.

Because right now, Flacco needs help: his mechanics are a mess, and he's not as mentally sharp as he was early in the season.

He's not playing with the same confidence.

**Corey** · 12-19-2012, 08:10 AM

Originally Posted by PerpetuallyBored74

It could be because they believed he was a better candidate for OC then Caldwell.

Or it could be that they wanted to keep Caldwell at QB coach because they felt that's where he could help Flacco the most.

Because right now, Flacco needs help: his mechanics are a mess, and he's not as mentally sharp as he was early in the season.

He's not playing with the same confidence.

Or it could be that he's been here longer and is more familiar with Cameron's system and playbook.... IMO, that is the most likely reason.

**pslholder96** · 12-19-2012, 08:20 AM

Originally Posted by Corey

Or it could be that he's been here longer and is more familiar with Cameron's system and playbook.... IMO, that is the most likely reason.

You're probably right on this. Wilbert has been here since Day 1 I believe so it makes sense.

**Paintballguy** · 12-19-2012, 08:31 AM

I heard that if John didn't pull the trigger on firing Cam, Steve would've sent them both packing. But I also heard that Steve really likes John. Also, I heard that he believes Flacco will be back, but he might have some competition. Flacco's stock is way down right now, and he believes he'll end up signing here.

**esmd** · 12-19-2012, 08:38 AM

Originally Posted by Paintballguy

Hey guys, I just was privy to some inside info from a source that is a coach on the Ravens staff.

Supposedly Harbaugh is safe for right now. Norv Turner is a likely candidate to be the OC next year. He also said that Cameron would panic if he called a running play that went nowhere, and he'd throw out all the running plays and go straight pass. (We've seen it in the games). Confirmed that Cameron thought he was always right and nobody liked dealing with him. He also said that Cameron's son was getting hazed in school about Cameron's play calling. lol They offered Wilbert the OC job first, but he declined it. The FO told him he'd be guaranteed a job if they shook up the coaching staff. Also, look for a lot of coaching/player shakeup this offseason. The FO and coaches are unhappy with Flacco's play, but they want to bring him back. Ed Reed and Ray Lewis are gone. I heard Ray Lewis could potentially be a LB coach if he wanted to do it.

I'm sorry, but in light of recent events, and in light of efforts to stop bullying (including by Ray Rice) I don't find that the least bit amusing. Not one bit.

**Paintballguy** · 12-19-2012, 08:39 AM

Originally Posted by esmd

I'm sorry, but in light of recent events, and in light of efforts to stop bullying (including by Ray Rice) I don't find that the least bit amusing. Not one bit.

Sorry if it was insensitive. FWIW the Ravens were concerned about it. It wasn't anything physical or serious. Just kids making jokes about Cam's play calling.

**esmd** · 12-19-2012, 08:41 AM

Originally Posted by RavensQB

Go look at the coaches that are not the big names. Then look at the area they are from. Philly, NJ. That was the first 2 I looked at wow.

http://www.baltimoreravens.com/team/coaches/Juney_Barnett/9cc25705-cd74-4ef4-83c0-e4cf308187c5

http://www.baltimoreravens.com/team/...1-451486162fa2

http://www.baltimoreravens.com/team/...3-a258d8c4bfb0

The last one is a FAVORITE.

So it's a bad thing to hire a young guy for a low grade position, and then give him opportunities for advancement?

**esmd** · 12-19-2012, 08:52 AM

Originally Posted by Paintballguy

Sorry if it was insensitive. FWIW the Ravens were concerned about it. It wasn't anything physical or serious. Just kids making jokes about Cam's play calling.

Fair enough. This is part of a larger problem, IMO, in that ppl (in general, not you specifically) are taking football just a little too seriously in the big picture. But that's for a different discussion I guess.

**Paintballguy** · 12-19-2012, 08:54 AM

Originally Posted by esmd

Fair enough. This is part of a larger problem, IMO, in that ppl (in general, not you specifically) are taking football just a little too seriously in the big picture. But that's for a different discussion I guess.

I definitely agree. I'm not the type of person that would do that.

Also, apparently he thinks that McKinnie is in harbaugh's doghouse.

**HoustonRaven** · 12-19-2012, 08:59 AM

This thread reminds me of Ferris Bueller ....

"My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with the girl who saw Ferris pass out at 31 Flavors last night. I guess it's pretty serious."

These posts are quite the enigma. 99% of them end up being bogus but then the occasional one is legit.

I calling BS on this one. No offense, just playing the odds. These claims are nothing more than a patch work of things we already know (minus the kid getting hazed -- which I dont buy either since his youngest is 18, IIRC) and unverifiable conjecture. There's no way the FO has already made a decision about Ray and Ed and even if some way they have, they're not going to share it with the coaches yet.

I am not saying whether or not you actually spoke to the coach. Rather, the info listed seems like a lot of hooey.