Some Inside Info

**esmd** · 12-19-2012, 09:01 AM

That doesn't surprise me, but contrary to many others, I don't fault Harbaugh for this. By all reports, McKinnie is a slug who exhibits zero effort in practice or in the few plays he's been on the field this year. Shoot, in August, a whole lot of ppl on this board were screaming for his release when he no-showed the first week of camp. Now all of a sudden according to some posters he's the answer to all of the problems? That's a dubious notion at best IMO.

Anyway, thanks for sharing the info.

**Paintballguy** · 12-19-2012, 09:03 AM

Originally Posted by HoustonRaven

This thread reminds me of Ferris Bueller ....

"My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with the girl who saw Ferris pass out at 31 Flavors last night. I guess it's pretty serious."

These posts are quite the enigma. 99% of them end up being bogus but then the occasional one is legit.

I calling BS on this one. No offense, just playing the odds. These claims are nothing more than a patch work of things we already know (minus the kid getting hazed -- which I dont buy either since his youngest is 18, IIRC) and unverifiable conjecture. There's no way the FO has already made a decision about Ray and Ed and even if some way they have, they're not going to share it with the coaches yet.

I am not saying whether or not you actually spoke to the coach. Rather, the info listed seems like a lot of hooey.

Hey I'm not guaranteeing the info, but I have a good source.

**pslholder96** · 12-19-2012, 09:08 AM

Originally Posted by Paintballguy

Hey I'm not guaranteeing the info, but I have a good source.

Just curious. Did you speak directly to this source or was this info handed down from a friend of the "source".

**HoustonRaven** · 12-19-2012, 09:09 AM

Originally Posted by Paintballguy

Hey I'm not guaranteeing the info, but I have a good source.

Fair enough.

Like I said, I wasn't doubting you. Just the info.

**Paintballguy** · 12-19-2012, 09:12 AM

Originally Posted by pslholder96

Just curious. Did you speak directly to this source or was this info handed down from a friend of the "source".

The guy I'm talking to is a former co-worker of mine that is close to a member of the coaching staff. Leach was actually at his house the other week checking out his new Tesla. I saw the pics.

**festivus** · 12-19-2012, 09:19 AM

Originally Posted by esmd

Fair enough. This is part of a larger problem, IMO, in that ppl (in general, not you specifically) are taking football just a little too seriously in the big picture. But that's for a different discussion I guess.

That's the truth.

And Ravens fans (in general, not anyone specifically) sure appear to have been spoiled by years of success.

And bullying sucks. It's not funny.

**Ravenswintitle** · 12-19-2012, 09:24 AM

I think we've discussed all of these items on the board at one time or another. To me it's just common sense that Flacco and Harb will be back next year and Reed and Lewis likely won't.

**Captain Silver** · 12-19-2012, 09:28 AM

Originally Posted by wickedsolo

You should ask your source if the coaches, front office, or players ever read this forum.

I'd actually be pretty interested in that.

Sure they do, Harbaugh has a dartboard with my picture on it

**Paintballguy** · 12-19-2012, 09:32 AM

Originally Posted by Ravenswintitle

I think we've discussed all of these items on the board at one time or another. To me it's just common sense that Flacco and Harb will be back next year and Reed and Lewis likely won't.

Yep. It's not set in stone, but don't expect them back. If Ray comes back, it's going to be a reduced role.

**wickedsolo** · 12-19-2012, 09:48 AM

Originally Posted by Captain Silver

Sure they do, Harbaugh has a dartboard with my picture on it

That would be hilarious.

**Dirt1** · 12-19-2012, 09:51 AM

Originally Posted by RavensQB

Go look at the coaches that are not the big names. Then look at the area they are from. Philly, NJ. That was the first 2 I looked at wow.

http://www.baltimoreravens.com/team/coaches/Juney_Barnett/9cc25705-cd74-4ef4-83c0-e4cf308187c5

http://www.baltimoreravens.com/team/...1-451486162fa2

http://www.baltimoreravens.com/team/...3-a258d8c4bfb0

The last one is a FAVORITE.

The Fiends and Family Plan. Verizon should contact Harbaugh about doing a commercial for them.

**bensmotorcyclehelmt** · 12-19-2012, 10:12 AM

You've got to give young guys chances, but man, that's a LOT of faith in a young guy.

The scary thing?

In his first years with the ravens as adminstrative assistant to harbaugh, Weiss was "responsible for breaking down opponents’ tendencies, charting the opponent’s offense during games and running the Ravens’ offensive scout team during practices."

WTF?! They cant have someone with expereince doing that?

Holy crap.

**Ravenboy2003** · 12-19-2012, 10:14 AM

Originally Posted by HoustonRaven

This thread reminds me of Ferris Bueller ....

"My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with the girl who saw Ferris pass out at 31 Flavors last night. I guess it's pretty serious."

.

Or M.A.S.H. where Klinger is trying to get out of Korea due to a death in the family and Frank reads off the name of all the people who had already died in the same fashion.

**Ravenboy2003** · 12-19-2012, 10:16 AM

Here's my question... what becomes of Caldwell?

The Ravens brought him in to finally push Flacco to the next level as a QB, and Flacco has done nothing but regress as the season comes to an end. Does Caldwell stay on as QB coach next year, or do we clean house and completely rebuild the offensive coaching staff?

**Benny8444** · 12-19-2012, 10:17 AM

1. There is nothing wrong with bringing in young people to do low level things and then advancing them. The ravens have always done that even before harbs got here. It came from the mold of the old Browns. Who cares where they are from. DeCosta, Kokinos, Savage were all once in this kids shoes and they did not turn out too bad....

2. Harbs is safe for a while 5 straight playoff bearths does not get u near the hot seat. If anything he will be forced into making changes like he did with Cam or the changes will be made for him

3. Flacco will likley sign and at the deal they offered him at camp which they thought was generous around 7 year 90M 35-40 Guaranteed with the possibility of it going over 100M. He would be a fool to turn that down now.

4. Ray will be gone IF he does not take a 50-75% pay cut. It wont add dead money as we have paid him and taken a hit for everything we have paid him. Ed will be back if he takes around 4M a year

5. I expect a new OC with caldwell going back to QB coach and possibly a new OL Coach. Pees is safe in my view. Rex wont be here next year so we can throw out that idea. he would be a great ESPN or TV analyst.

6. I think they sign elerbie to a contract like the one they gave McClain. He wont get much more on the open market because of lack of time as a full time starter and injuries. meaning he wont get near a Bart Scott jets deal.

**RavensQB** · 12-19-2012, 10:18 AM

Originally Posted by bensmotorcyclehelmt

You've got to give young guys chances, but man, that's a LOT of faith in a young guy.

The scary thing?

In his first years with the ravens as adminstrative assistant to harbaugh, Weiss was "responsible for breaking down opponents’ tendencies, charting the opponent’s offense during games and running the Ravens’ offensive scout team during practices."

WTF?! They cant have someone with expereince doing that?

Holy crap.

Well at least you read and saw what I saw. Someone did not! Ahem

http://russellstreetreport.com/forum...426#post540426

**Benny8444** · 12-19-2012, 10:19 AM

Originally Posted by bensmotorcyclehelmt

You've got to give young guys chances, but man, that's a LOT of faith in a young guy.

The scary thing?

In his first years with the ravens as adminstrative assistant to harbaugh, Weiss was "responsible for breaking down opponents’ tendencies, charting the opponent’s offense during games and running the Ravens’ offensive scout team during practices."

WTF?! They cant have someone with expereince doing that?

Holy crap.

They probably did and he worked with them. Its the only way to see if the Kid is capable of doing an advanced job in the future is to take of his little kid pants. and I am sure his info was looked over before it was implemented.

**Jsmoove** · 12-19-2012, 10:19 AM

damn so Harbs brought the whole family in for a job, and trusted all these young cats who probably really don't know the inner workings of the NFL and what their position really entails and just hand them the keys to do whatever? based on that Harbaugh should be fired, its clear this team hasn't been prepped in many games, I wonder how many games we have won with just talent alone and how many games we could have won and won convincingly if this team was coached the right way?

**Benny8444** · 12-19-2012, 10:20 AM

Why are people against giving 25 year olds a low level coaching job and seeing what they can do. you have to start someplace.

Lets see how old Harbs was when he got his first NFL Job.

Heck. Erik Spolstra the MIA Heat coach was a Video Assit and look where he is now....

**RavensQB** · 12-19-2012, 10:21 AM

Originally Posted by Benny8444

They probably did and he worked with them. Its the only way to see if the Kid is capable of doing an advanced job in the future is to take of his little kid pants. and I am sure his info was looked over before it was implemented.

I would agree but damn some of them still have diapers on..