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    "Experts" pick Giants



    This week, 10 out of 12 talking heads pick the Giants.

    http://espn.go.com/nfl/picks

    This is the Giants that were embarrassed last week, and has as many injuries as the Ravens. Am I missing something, or is this the usual New York ESPN bias?




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    Re: "Experts" pick Giants

    The experts are right. They have a real HOF coach, real QB who can read defenses, and a DLine that can get to the QB.



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    i took giants -2.5



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    Re: "Experts" pick Giants

    Wish they hadn't been shut out last week. Now it's a must win for them. Plus look at our anemic offense which got worse when they got rid of the alleged problem
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    Re: "Experts" pick Giants

    Quote Originally Posted by Ravenswintitle View Post
    Wish they hadn't been shut out last week. Now it's a must win for them. Plus look at our anemic offense which got worse when they got rid of the alleged problem
    It was one game. Plus Denver's defense is solid and underrated.
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    Re: "Experts" pick Giants

    PFT posted a story that Justin Tuck may be out. Would be a boost to the Ravens.



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    Re: "Experts" pick Giants

    Quote Originally Posted by Ravenswintitle View Post
    Wish they hadn't been shut out last week. Now it's a must win for them. Plus look at our anemic offense which got worse when they got rid of the alleged problem
    Worse? Denver has a much better defense than any other team the Ravens have played. Denver gives up less points per game than any team the Ravens have played all season. 5th in PPG against.

    I think they looked a lot worse with Cam against KC, one of the worst defenses in the league.



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    Re: "Experts" pick Giants

    Quote Originally Posted by Kevlar View Post
    I think they looked a lot worse with Cam against KC, one of the worst defenses in the league.
    Maybe. Two catches by Pitta REALLY bailed out the final score and Flacco's stat line, though.
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    Re: "Experts" pick Giants

    Quote Originally Posted by Kevlar View Post
    Worse? Denver has a much better defense than any other team the Ravens have played. Denver gives up less points per game than any team the Ravens have played all season. 5th in PPG against.

    I think they looked a lot worse with Cam against KC, one of the worst defenses in the league.
    That was a road game, Rice had over 100 yards and keep in mind KC almost won in Pitt.

    But I agree Denver's D makes a lot of teams look average. This team has been unbeatable at home, they need to get back to protecting the house and give Rice a chance to get a rhythm, not 12 carries.
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    Re: "Experts" pick Giants

    Quote Originally Posted by PGCountyRaven85 View Post
    The experts are right. They have a real HOF coach, real QB who can read defenses, and a DLine that can get to the QB.
    My thoughts exactly.
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    Re: "Experts" pick Giants

    Quote Originally Posted by PGCountyRaven85 View Post
    The experts are right. They have a real HOF coach, real QB who can read defenses, and a DLine that can get to the QB.
    None of which are living up to any of those descriptions this year. But nah, let's ignore that.



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    Re: "Experts" pick Giants

    If the Ravens lose this game to a declining Giants team, they are done for the year. This is the kind of statement game that they must win if they have any chance in the playoffs. Plus a loss makes it likely they will lose the AFC North to the Steelers.



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    Re: "Experts" pick Giants

    Quote Originally Posted by GaTechRavens View Post
    None of which are living up to any of those descriptions this year. But nah, let's ignore that.
    Yes, because every team the Ravens have played this year typically played right to their M.O. when facing our injured D and uncreative offense.

    Because the Redskins who have the same record as the Giants but a worse defense didn't beat us with some random back-up who wasn't Eli Manning.

    Because the Steelers who have a worse record than the Giants didn't beat us with some random back-up who wasn't Eli Manning.
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    Re: "Experts" pick Giants

    What have we done in the past month for anyone to think we should be favored a 4-29 gift away from a 4 game losing streak



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    Re: "Experts" pick Giants

    When will you guys learn that anything can happen in this league? I wont be surprised if we demolish the Giants this week at home, and wont be surprised if they demolish us.

    Every single ''expert'' picked us to beat the Steelers a few weeks back, and that got smacked right back in their faces. The truth is, apart from a few inside sources that we don't have, they really don't know more than a lot of us about football, apart from the ex players.



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    Re: "Experts" pick Giants

    Quote Originally Posted by PGCountyRaven85 View Post
    The experts are right. They have a real HOF coach, real QB who can read defenses, and a DLine that can get to the QB.
    They are not as good in the most important disciplin, win football games.

    Harbs and Joe have had a better W-L record, every single year, they have been in the league.

    2008 Ravens 13-6, G 12-5
    2009 Ravens 10-8, G 8-8
    2010 Ravens 13-5, G 10-6
    2011 Ravens 13-5, G 13-7.. but a SB, Lee Evans and Billy Cundiff!
    2012 Ravens 9-5, G 8-6



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    Re: "Experts" pick Giants

    Quote Originally Posted by elland View Post
    They are not as good in the most important disciplin, win football games.

    Harbs and Joe have had a better W-L record, every single year, they have been in the league.

    2008 Ravens 13-6, G 12-5
    2009 Ravens 10-8, G 8-8
    2010 Ravens 13-5, G 10-6
    2011 Ravens 13-5, G 13-7.. but a SB, Lee Evans and Billy Cundiff!
    2012 Ravens 9-5, G 8-6

    Are you serious? They've won TWO SUPERBOWLS!!!!! THAT is the most important Stat to be measured by. Nobody gives a rat's ass about woulda coulda shoulda. Get 'er done.



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    Re: "Experts" pick Giants

    Quote Originally Posted by elland View Post
    They are not as good in the most important disciplin, win football games.

    Harbs and Joe have had a better W-L record, every single year, they have been in the league.

    2008 Ravens 13-6, G 12-5
    2009 Ravens 10-8, G 8-8
    2010 Ravens 13-5, G 10-6
    2011 Ravens 13-5, G 13-7.. but a SB, Lee Evans and Billy Cundiff!
    2012 Ravens 9-5, G 8-6
    Quote Originally Posted by Terpsfan82 View Post
    Are you serious? They've won TWO SUPERBOWLS!!!!! THAT is the most important Stat to be measured by. Nobody gives a rat's ass about woulda coulda shoulda. Get 'er done.
    None of that past history matters tomorrow.



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    Re: "Experts" pick Giants

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnBKistler View Post
    None of that past history matters tomorrow.
    Right, both teams are significantly different than they were when they were good.



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    Yep I agree nothing would surprise me. It's not like the Giants are coming in on a roll but I've seen little that makes me feel good about our chances outside of Tuck may not play, and Grubbs and Torrey are practicing
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