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    Re: Average at best draft?



    Can't take any serious declaration of this draft seriously.

    It hasn't even been a full season yet.
    Although Walsh's system of offense can compensate for lack of talent; however, defense is a different story. According to Walsh, talent on defense was essential and could not be compensated for. What did Walsh do in 1981? He acquired physical and talented players on defense.




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    Everyone knows how I felt about Nicks, the big SB hero last year. He wasn't even on the Ravens radar. Dee said there was no one they liked at WR in that draft except Robiskie-sp drafted by the Browns at top of 2d round and he's a big bust and out of football, I think. Dee didn't like Kenny Britt either who bit Ozzie in the ass last year in Tenn when he beat us with a TD. That was one of the 3 losses along with the Seattle and Jags lost that kept us from having the home field advantage vs NE. Any one of those wins gives us the home field.

    As for Gronk, Bellicheat took a big risk on him. He missed a lot of time to back injuries. He knew Ozzie needed a TE and jumped in front to grab Gronk because he was afraid Oz would draft him. Remember all the confusion going on and Goodell had to go down and tell NE to hurry it up? Like Nicks, he wasn't even on his radar opting for Pitta and Dickson, two very good TEs but not as great as Gronk. Bellicheat had no reason to worry about losing Gronk
    to Oz.

    The TE drafted by the Saints was the guy Oz really missed on in that draft and was on the board just like Roddy White was on the board and Mike Wallace and so many others. Oz still has more hits than misses and someone posted a stat a few years ago that Oz had more players still playing than any other GM.

    And speaking of an average draft, how about Tucker? He wasn't drafted but
    he's a big part of the rookie class and many think he should have made the pro bowl so that makes this class and draft even stronger than average.
    He's one of Ozzie's best signings.

    The Michael Oher draft is the one that still upsets me and another guy they have playing out of position.

    QUESTION: Does anyone think Yanda could play Center when Birk retires? I know it's the pros but what's so difficult about teaching a pro like Yanda how to snap. We're not talking long
    snappers here. I did it at my lowly level. It's really not that
    difficult.

    Then we move Oher back to RT and KO to LG and McKinnie at LT until we draft someone and put Gino at RG.

    I'm just asking.
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    And speaking of Pierce, what a great game he is having today.

    He's so explosive. Another great Ozzie find from little Temple.

    And Gino is playing well today opening up big holes up the middle.
    As someone posted on the game thread:
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    I went back and watched the last two offensive series to see how Gradkowski was holding up. He has held his own against Atkins on running plays and has been stronger than the backup guards on passing plays. He did not look weak
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    so there's a lot of upside to this draft making it above average.
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    *would be awesome of Gino can become an NFL center. didn't see the game, heard he did well.
    *Chykie Brown seems to have been a good investment.
    *that 04 draft was a huge stinker. was that that personnel guy that went to the Bronws? (DeCosta?)
    *Belicheat hasn't drafted his next qb yet. Brady is 36 so he'd better get somebody ready. (fine with me if they both retire and leave a qb-less team up there)
    in '08 we had to draft Rice because Pigsburgh had already taken Limas Sweed! (drat!)
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    Re: Average at best draft?

    Quote Originally Posted by sailorsam View Post
    *Belicheat hasn't drafted his next qb yet. Brady is 36 so he'd better get somebody ready. (fine with me if they both retire and leave a qb-less team up there)
    Their back up is Ryan Mallett, a 3rd round guy who had a pretty good career at Arkansas. A lot of people felt he might be able to start in the league, though who knows if he is any good.



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    Quote Originally Posted by sailorsam View Post
    *would be awesome of Gino can become an NFL center. didn't see the game, heard he did well.
    *Chykie Brown seems to have been a good investment.
    *that 04 draft was a huge stinker. was that that personnel guy that went to the Bronws? (DeCosta?)
    DeCosta has never left the Ravens although half the NFL teams have tried to lure him away. He's waiting for Ozzie to retire and making about as much as most GMs anyway. That's what it took for Bisciotti to keep him.

    Phil Savage left to become the Browns GM and was fired and then DeCosta's
    assistant left to become Browns GM and he was fired too but Ravens brought
    him back. I can't think of his name.

    Ravens were high on Mallett.

    Ravens took Rice because CAM wanted two RBs to get thru an NFL season.

    NE wanted Rice too but their GM who is now KCs GM and Ozzie's assist during
    SB 35 called after the draft and said they were surprised we took Rice since
    we had McGahee. Ozzie said CAM wanted two good RBs. So everyone give
    a big thank U to CAM. Rice would have gone to NE. BTW, NE was high
    on Bernard Pierce this year. So was Pissburgh. Both teams also liked Gino.

    That's why Bellicheat jumped in front of Ozzie to get Gronk. Like posted he
    knew we needed a TE and was scared to death Oz would steal Gronk like he
    did Rice.
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    Re: Average at best draft?

    okay, I was thinking of Savage, not DeCosta. I think he was behind the '04 draft.
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