Black Monday

**HoustonRaven** · 12-31-2012, 02:43 PM

Originally Posted by Ravenous1

LOL I totally get that. Was simply saying nothing would stop Ozzie from calling NOW. If Cam were still under contract, I doubt those calls would be made. Poorly verbalized on my part sorry.

Ah. I see.

Will, if Norv et all are indeed on their radar, I think it's a safe bet calls have already been made.

And if I were Norv, I'd slow play it and get the best deal possible.

**Ravenous1** · 12-31-2012, 02:45 PM

Originally Posted by Ravenswintitle

Gotta tell you... we were expecting some firings but this is one busy Black Monday. Wow

No doubt.

I kinda feel for Lovie Smith. Think the guy is a decent HC and deserves another job.

If I were Buffalo or KC I would be looking at guys like Brian Billick, Lovie Smith, Gruden, Reid, etc.... guys who have proven they can win with talent.

The latest up and coming coordinator is great, some of these college names are great but those organizations need a steady coaching hand IMO. Stability

**Ravenous1** · 12-31-2012, 02:47 PM

Originally Posted by HoustonRaven

Ah. I see.

Will, if Norv et all are indeed on their radar, I think it's a safe bet calls have already been made.

And if I were Norv, I'd slow play it and get the best deal possible.

If the Ravens have one or two guys they really like, make em an offer they cant refuse and if they do then move on to the next one.

This many openings means lots of OC positions will be available. Better to strike quickly then to be left without a chair if the music stops.

**Ravenswintitle** · 12-31-2012, 02:51 PM

Originally Posted by Ravenous1

No doubt.

I kinda feel for Lovie Smith. Think the guy is a decent HC and deserves another job.

According to reports on SiriusNFL, the players really reacted negatively when they heard Lovie was fired. They love the guy. But he's had a few years with a great defense and Cutler for 3 years and still couldn't do it so that's why they let him go. Gonna be tough for anyone in that job as long as Aaron Rodgers is still around.

**Ravenous1** · 12-31-2012, 02:55 PM

Originally Posted by Ravenswintitle

According to reports on SiriusNFL, the players really reacted negatively when they heard Lovie was fired. They love the guy. But he's had a few years with a great defense and Cutler for 3 years and still couldn't do it so that's why they let him go. Gonna be tough for anyone in that job as long as Aaron Rodgers is still around.

Yea totally agree. Grew up as a Bears fan so still have some love for Da Bears.
It was prob time for a change but Lovie is a quality head coach IMO. There are several teams out there that could benefit from him. Browns, KC, Buffalo, all teams were Lovie would be the best HC they have seen in years IMO.

**gretzky_scores** · 12-31-2012, 03:05 PM

per WNST twitter, Eric Decosta intends to stay here, not go to some of these GM openings

**Raveninwoodlawn** · 12-31-2012, 03:10 PM

Originally Posted by Ravenswintitle

It would make sense for the front office to have reached out (when permissable) to some guys so they're not left with the crumbs after the SB win

Oz may have already placed a few calls.

I said before that I would start interviewing guys soon.

Considering Caldwell didn't even seem eager to take the OC job, I don't think stepping on his toes would be an issue. I do think he needs to stay on the staff...at least as an QB coach.

I'd look at guys like Wisenhunt, Turner, and Reid now. I know some think it would be a distraction, but I don't...and you can bring them in as a "consultant" much like the Pats did with Josh McDaniels during their playoff run last year.

**Corey** · 12-31-2012, 03:11 PM

Originally Posted by RavenScallywag

Don't be so sure Norv is here...He has no ties to Harbaugh, and he's made comments about Rex and the Jets, who are reportedly ready to push their chips all in for him. And, they're out of the playoffs, so they can start pursuing him now. We would have to wait until playoffs are over and we relieve Caldwell of duties.

Whisenhunt or Shurmur might be good candidates. Want no part of Sparano. Wonder about Childress, he's another guy with Harbaugh ties...

I don't know that the Ravens are interested in Norv but I don't think he'd jump to the Jets without atleast listening to what the Ravens have to say if they were interested. The Jet's don't have a QB, they don't have a RB, and they don't have much talent at WR. The Ravens have one of the best RB in the game, we have a solid QB, and are fairly deep at WR, if only with potential. We need pieces on the OL and that is it. Not to mention in NY he'd be with a coach on the hot seat in Rex, most likely when Rex goes his whole staff goes. The Ravens offer a lot more job security, no matter what folks say Harbaugh isn't going anywhere. Simply put the Ravens are the better job of the two. No OC is going to choose the Jets job over the Ravens.

The one thing that the Jets do have in their favor is that like you said, they can make the hire now. We can't without creating a distraction.

**iggyman555** · 12-31-2012, 03:23 PM

Originally Posted by HoustonRaven

Both of those guys were under contract up until a few hours ago.

It would have been against league rules for the Ravens to reach out to them and get a deal done prior to them being canned.

lol ur not getting what he is trying to say

**GOTA** · 12-31-2012, 03:33 PM

Originally Posted by Ravenswintitle

Gotta tell you... we were expecting some firings but this is one busy Black Monday. Wow

I haven't heard a surprise yet. All these names were talked about for a long time now.

**The Excellector** · 12-31-2012, 03:37 PM

Let's see:

Lovie Smith
Ken Whisenhunt
Chan Gailey
Norv Turner
Romeo Crennel
Andy Reid
Pat Shurmur

Am I missing anybody?

By the way, there will be plenty of OC and DC coordinators to choose from, if they are smart and wait it out.

**Ravenswintitle** · 12-31-2012, 03:49 PM

Originally Posted by GOTA

I haven't hear a surprise yet. All these names were talked about for a long time now.

Just seems that usually a few get another shot.
The ones that surprise me are Lovie, Wiz, and the fact that Pioli is still GM in KC. Also I'm glad I'm not a Titan fan

**GOTA** · 12-31-2012, 04:02 PM

Originally Posted by Ravenswintitle

Just seems that usually a few get another shot.
The ones that surprise me are Lovie, Wiz, and the fact that Pioli is still GM in KC. Also I'm glad I'm not a Titan fan

Pioli surprises me but nothing else does. Owners for the most part want success all the time. The real surprise is that Hunt is actually being patient with his GM.

**Ravenswintitle** · 12-31-2012, 05:50 PM

Bruce Arians is getting a lot of interest from teams. He should just fly on out to SD and forget about the upcoming game

**Ravenboy2003** · 12-31-2012, 05:54 PM

Originally Posted by Ravenswintitle

Bruce Arians is getting a lot of interest from teams. He should just fly on out to SD and forget about the upcoming game

Arians is a shoe-in for one of the many open Head Coaching positions now open after what he did filling in for Pagano. He might have his choice of jobs.

**RavenMadness** · 12-31-2012, 06:31 PM

Originally Posted by Ravenboy2003

Arians is a shoe-in for one of the many open Head Coaching positions now open after what he did filling in for Pagano. He might have his choice of jobs.

Agreed!

**The Excellector** · 12-31-2012, 06:32 PM

Mr. Rivera is against the ropes, but hanging in there for the moment. We'll see if he lasts the week.

**Ravenboy2003** · 12-31-2012, 06:41 PM

Originally Posted by The Excellector

Mr. Rivera is against the ropes, but hanging in there for the moment. We'll see if he lasts the week.

I think winning 5 of their last 6 may have saved Rivera.

**RavenMadness** · 12-31-2012, 06:43 PM

Eagles will interview Falcons DC Mike Nolan for the team's head-coaching vacancy on Friday.

**The Excellector** · 12-31-2012, 06:44 PM

Originally Posted by Ravenboy2003

I think winning 5 of their last 6 may have saved Rivera.

He could be a nice DC prospect. He played a more aggressive style of defense in San Diego that more closely resembles what Ravens defense stands for. If I'm not mistaken, he can run a 4-3 and a 3-4 pretty well. I'm not sure about that information though. My memory is slipping at the moment.