Changes at 105.7 The Fan

**iggyman555** · 01-03-2013, 12:36 PM

btw does anyone know how much these guys make?? i always hear them making jokes at how little they make...

**JohnBKistler** · 01-03-2013, 12:49 PM

Originally Posted by iggyman555

btw does anyone know how much these guys make?? i always hear them making jokes at how little they make...

I have no idea. I do think they have to purchase their airtime from the station and then sell the advertisements themselves...if they sell enough ads to cover their costs, they make money. If they don't, they don't. I don't think anybody is getting rich off their gig.

But I am not in the business and could be totally off-base.

**iggyman555** · 01-03-2013, 01:05 PM

who's applying? LOL

http://www.glassdoor.com/job-listing...m?jl=380478371

http://www.glassdoor.com/job-listing...m?jl=380478238

**Ravenboy2003** · 01-03-2013, 01:36 PM

Originally Posted by JohnBKistler

I have no idea. I do think they have to purchase their airtime from the station and then sell the advertisements themselves...if they sell enough ads to cover their costs, they make money. If they don't, they don't. I don't think anybody is getting rich off their gig.

But I am not in the business and could be totally off-base.

I don't think it works like this when your parent company is CBS. The guys at low-wattage local stations (WNST, perhaps) are most likely buying their time and seling their own ads. But not guys working for CBS or ESPN radio.

My dad worked in radio when I was a kid (as a station engineer). He always told me to stay as far away from the microphone as possible if you ever wanted to make money at a radio station. (Sales and Engineering pay a lot more than sitting in the booth unless you're crazy like Stern or Limbaugh and catch a lot of breaks).

CBS median salary is around $40k according to some on line searches.. Now that's a nationwide median, so obviously some of the main hosts are pulling down a lot more than that while goofy sidekicks are pulling down less.

**AirFlacco** · 01-03-2013, 02:27 PM

So are guys like Haynie and Garceau making $40K for a 2-3 hour gig on 105 fm?

I think that was Haynie's only job. That would be Scott's second check in addition to his pension plus
his realty company.

Guys like Stern and Rush are making over $100M pr yr plus their books, endorsements and speeches.

**Ravenboy2003** · 01-03-2013, 02:40 PM

Originally Posted by AirFlacco

So are guys like Haynie and Garceau making $40K for a 2-3 hour gig on 105 fm?

I think that was Haynie's only job. That would be Scott's second check in addition to his pension plus
his realty company.

Guys like Stern and Rush are making over $100M pr yr plus their books, endorsements and speeches.

Quite possible that Haynie's around the median line. He came from NST where guys are working for peanuts. So CBS median salary or something in the vicinity was probably a pay raise.. Garceau has been around a long time. I'd imagine he makes well above median.. But he's obviously not retiring any time soon either.

Syndication (like Stern, Limbaugh, etc) is the way to big bucks in radio, and I don't think there's one guy on staff right now at 105.7 that has to worry about that any time soon.

One other thing of note - there is extra money to be made by making personal appearances on behalf of the station. So when you see these guys showing up at car dealerships or at shopping malls on Saturday afternoon, they're getting paid extra for that.

**4G63** · 01-03-2013, 02:41 PM

I don't mind any of the talking heads on 105.7. That includes Zinno too. Someone needs to be provocative in order to garner ratings and its sports talk in Baltimore. There's only so much you can talk about between the O's and Ravens.

Here's what I found about salaries from the link above:http://www.glassdoor.com/Salary/CBS-...10,19_IM63.htm

**Greg** · 01-03-2013, 03:42 PM

On "Burgundy" I would like to first note that I was the first internet poster ever to get under his skin. This was when he was with Matte on 1300 Saturday mornings about 12-13 years ago. Several Saturdays in a row he kept talking about the upcoming draft and continually forgot we did not have a 3rd round pick (must have been 1999) because we had pissed it away on Scott Mitchell.

I posted on Sunspot about his lack of knowledge and that my dog knew more than he did about NFL Football. LOL, the next Saturday morning he brings it up and is pissed. I didn't hear it but several folks let me know they did!

Anyway, I have met him and he is okay. He is thin-skinned, especially considering his job, and I still contend his knowledge is lacking, but he is a nice guy and I can't believe he ever indicated he wanted to do something physical like get into a fight or something.

There is no "confronting" him as that isn't in him to get into a fight or something.

Oh, and as an admin on many of these boards he was never kicked off. When he stopped posting that was voluntary, though heavily recommended as he was so thin-skinned. Many suggested he stop reading altogether. He just couldn't handle it.

**AirFlacco** · 01-03-2013, 03:43 PM

Originally Posted by Ravenboy2003

Quite possible that Haynie's around the median line. He came from NST where guys are working for peanuts. So CBS median salary or something in the vicinity was probably a pay raise.. Garceau has been around a long time. I'd imagine he makes well above median.. But he's obviously not retiring any time soon either.

Syndication (like Stern, Limbaugh, etc) is the way to big bucks in radio, and I don't think there's one guy on staff right now at 105.7 that has to worry about that any time soon.

One other thing of note - there is extra money to be made by making personal appearances on behalf of the station. So when you see these guys showing up at car dealerships or at shopping malls on Saturday afternoon, they're getting paid extra for that.

Thanks,man.

Great info.

**AirFlacco** · 01-03-2013, 03:46 PM

Originally Posted by Greg

On "Burgundy" I would like to first note that I was the first internet poster ever to get under his skin. This was when he was with Matte on 1300 Saturday mornings about 12-13 years ago. Several Saturdays in a row he kept talking about the upcoming draft and continually forgot we did not have a 3rd round pick (must have been 1999) because we had pissed it away on Scott Mitchell.

I posted on Sunspot about his lack of knowledge and that my dog knew more than he did about NFL Football. LOL, the next Saturday morning he brings it up and is pissed. I didn't hear it but several folks let me know they did!

Anyway, I have met him and he is okay. He is thin-skinned, especially considering his job, and I still contend his knowledge is lacking, but he is a nice guy and I can't believe he ever indicated he wanted to do something physical like get into a fight or something.

There is no "confronting" him as that isn't in him to get into a fight or something.

Oh, and as an admin on many of these boards he was never kicked off. When he stopped posting that was voluntary, though heavily recommended as he was so thin-skinned. Many suggested he stop reading altogether. He just couldn't handle it.

Yea, Greg - I remember the dog quote and that was on TV 45 where he said, "even GReg's dog knows more than me."

LOL

Remember that MOnday night game vs Minn, I think it was, and Kyle Richardson shanked all those punts in the freezing
cold and was cut at the end of the year. Bruce said on his Sat show that Kyle was one of his favorite Ravens and he
couldn't understand why he was cut. ILMAO - he must have missed all those shanked punts.

He often got the plays wrong at the stadium too when calling the games. I said don't you have spotters to tell you where
the ball is. He said I have 2 of them. So here's 3 experts with the best seats in the house and they don't know where the
ball is.

Remember his IT'S THIRD DOWN call. It drove Kansas City nuts so much so they complained to the NFL and they gave
Bruce a warning about it. He just laughed but all the old announcers said it'd 2d and 8 or 3d and 2 or whatever but
Bruce didn't know where the ball was, so he just said IT'S THIRD DOWN.

ILMAO

Of course the guys on Scout said we should know where it is if we're paying attention but some guys are too drunk
to see and others are watching the cheer leaders legs or coming back from the john and might need to know-lol.

**RavensDomination** · 01-03-2013, 06:44 PM

Originally Posted by Greg

Anyway, I have met him and he is okay. He is thin-skinned, especially considering his job, and I still contend his knowledge is lacking, but he is a nice guy and I can't believe he ever indicated he wanted to do something physical like get into a fight or something.

Greg trust me on this one, he suggested on more than one occasion that message board posters wouldn't say xyz to him since he is so big, insinuating people should be afraid of him because he would kick their asses or something. It was really awkward every time he would do it. I used to listen to the Saturday morning Ravens show faithfully on WNST and then when he went to 105.7 to do the Bruce Cunningham show. High quality entertainment.

check out this old sunspot thread.

My favorite from that thread, courtesy of HandsWarmer

"Bruce: We have Joe from hamden on the line, go ahead Joe!

Joe: Hey Bruce,...

Bruce: That reminds me of a story; once way back when......

(Caller dangles on line....)"

**Ravenboy2003** · 01-03-2013, 07:07 PM

Originally Posted by RavensDomination

Greg trust me on this one, he suggested on more than one occasion that message board posters wouldn't say xyz to him since he is so big, insinuating people should be afraid of him because he would kick their asses or something. It was really awkward every time he would do it. I used to listen to the Saturday morning Ravens show faithfully on WNST and then when he went to 105.7 to do the Bruce Cunningham show. High quality entertainment.

check out this old sunspot thread.

My favorite from that thread, courtesy of HandsWarmer

"Bruce: We have Joe from hamden on the line, go ahead Joe!

Joe: Hey Bruce,...

Bruce: That reminds me of a story; once way back when......

(Caller dangles on line....)"

Oh my.. LOL!

I found it funny when he lost his midday show, and he had to spend his entire last show telling the audience how he hadn't been fired, that it was his own decision, and that he was just so busy and had so many important things to do that he had to make this decision. As if this legion of fans were breaking out the tissues because of his departure!

I've also often wondered if Brucie didn't fly to Miami and "un-retire" Marty Bass' old toupee. Look at old pic's of Marty's wig and look at Brucie's head and tell me they aren't identical.

**CoverD** · 01-03-2013, 08:03 PM

I remember Bruce belching on the PA during a game...absolutely embarrassing.

**iggyman555** · 01-03-2013, 08:09 PM

what was burgandys handle on the old forums, i was googling around but couldnt find any posts

**AirFlacco** · 01-03-2013, 08:20 PM

have you heard

He used that on scout. He was already banned when I joined susnpot as 52 Knock OUts.

He used that when he made his big splash and said I'M BRUCE CUNNINGHAM.

I used to rib him about being the only anchor to go on message boards. The real anchors were too busy and professional.
They might have been on but nobody knew who they were.

Haynie said he always turned to the boards to get the feel of the fans after a game but nobody knew who he was.

Marty used his real name and pic, the same one you see on the ch 13 commercials-lol.

It was funny. AFter he made his big splash on scout some of us used his real name.

One guy was Bruce Cunningham
One guy was Bruce
I was Bruce 45.

It drove him nuts. Everyone was confused thinking they were all Bruce. Guys would say will the real
Bruce Cunningham please stand up.

I'd post, I'm the real Bruce Cunningham.
The other guy would say the same.
Then the other guy.

He PMed me saying I was stealing his name and that was the only thing he had to sell himself. He lied when he said
he came on the board because of those names. We didn't use them til after he came on the board.

So finally Admin Steve said, ok you jokers, you know it's against to rules to use multiple handles but you could tell
Steve thought it was funny. He always had a great sense of humor.

I was always known for using diff names. I was 007, Champs, Sirius Raven, and Joe Erhmann. Mista T thought I was
the real JOe Ehrmann of the Sack Pack and asked me questions about the old Colts and I'd answer them.

Steve would have banned me if I wasn't a pal from Nest 1. Aaron finally did ban me for trashing his subscription forum.
I said why pay for it when you see the articles all over the net for free. He used the subscription forum to pay for
his ravens trips because the Carroll County Times couldn't afford to send him. That's what a mod told me. He just
joined The Sun and made the big time. He deserves it. I always praised him and Tony as the best reporters in town
and I still like Aaron. I still read the board.

Im the only Ravens fan to be banned from two message boards and a fan club. ILMAO

I just an old man having a damn good time.

**xmradiodave** · 01-04-2013, 08:42 AM

Originally Posted by SHORTTRACK

"Zinno" doesn't use his real name.
He was a male cheerleader.
He's a cheerleader coach.
He is an awful and unlikeable radio personality.
That is pretty damn accurate.

There are plenty of people who have or had provided service to this country, they, no so more than him, don't necessarily deserve to be on the radio attempting to have a legitimate take on sports.

A radio guy that doesn't use his real name?
That is crazy!

**iggyman555** · 01-04-2013, 08:50 AM

i really cant stand steve davis, whats his problem

**Ravenboy2003** · 01-04-2013, 10:23 AM

Originally Posted by iggyman555

what was burgandys handle on the old forums, i was googling around but couldnt find any posts

He had more than one.. All of them were banned at some point. During the most raucous and argumentative time, he was posting as "BCFox45" or something like that. Some people (SanDiegoSean) still have PM's that he sent them over there. Unfortunately I deleted the ones I got.. Maybe Sean can share them again. They were basically along the lines of, "you guys are lucky I can't get my hands on you right now" and other threatening nonsense. He whined constantly in PM's to several people that he wasn't getting a fair shake and that he couldn't defend himself properly because we were all anonymous message board posters hiding behind our PC's. LOL!

**Greg** · 01-04-2013, 10:31 AM

All of them were banned at some point.

Again, none of them were "banned." I have first-hand knowledge of this. He just finally realized he couldn't handle reading about himself on internet message boards and quit.

**Ravenboy2003** · 01-04-2013, 10:37 AM

Originally Posted by Greg

Again, none of them were "banned." I have first-hand knowledge of this. He just finally realized he couldn't handle reading about himself on internet message boards and quit.

Not true.. The "BCFox45" handle was banned in the middle of an active thread when he went off and started making threatening comments and calling people names. We all had a good laugh at the expense of the word "BANNED" appearing under his handle instead of "MEMBER".

Could care less what insider information you have, but a bunch of us were there, participating in the thread and know what happened. And a bunch of SanDiegoSean's PM's were about how he couldn't defend himself (due to being banned).