It still amazes me how these QBs **** the bed with these top 5 receivers.

**dscola31** · 01-06-2013, 07:02 AM

Yet Flacco doesn't even have a top 20 guy and gets so much hate.
How can you have AJ Green 1 on 1 all game and be scared to throw to him? When is Dalton going to start getting the Flacco treatment?
Can you imagine how good our team would be if you had a guy on the outside teams actually had to gameplan around?

**ravensnhokies** · 01-06-2013, 08:18 AM

That 3rd down overthrow was just awful. AJ was wide open. Can you imagine the vitriol Joe would have received if he missed that pass? Cincy will always be a #6 seed type team at best with Dalton. Damn I was rooting hard for them like I do when they play the Steeelers, and they always let you down (other than the shocker two weeks ago)

**dscola31** · 01-06-2013, 08:24 AM

Originally Posted by ravensnhokies

That 3rd down overthrow was just awful. AJ was wide open. Can you imagine the vitriol Joe would have received if he missed that pass? Cincy will always be a #6 seed type team at best with Dalton. Damn I was rooting hard for them like I do when they play the Steeelers, and they always let you down (other than the shocker two weeks ago)

It's amazing. They expect Joe to make chicken soup out of chicken ****. Where is our Roddy White, Andre Johnson, Megatron, AJ Green? Where is our coordinator that designs plays to get our best players 1 on 1? When your only real threat is a 5'7" running back, what can you do. Every top QB in the league has a receiver or tight end that is synonomous with him. Where is Joe's?

**PerpetuallyBored74** · 01-06-2013, 08:25 AM

Dalton, Stafford & Ryan are the 3 QBs who benefit the most from the WRs they have.
They wouldn't put up the same sexy stats without having top 5 talent to throw to.

**PerpetuallyBored74** · 01-06-2013, 08:33 AM

Originally Posted by dscola31

It's amazing. They expect Joe to make chicken soup out of chicken ****. Where is our Roddy White, Andre Johnson, Megatron, AJ Green? Where is our coordinator that designs plays to get our best players 1 on 1? When your only real threat is a 5'7" running back, what can you do. Every top QB in the league has a receiver or tight end that is synonomous with him. Where is Joe's?

Even though we don't have any beasts at WR/TE, we have a whole bunch of 2nd tier talent. You absolutely can win with those types of WRs/TEs as long as you have the right scheme in place--one that plays to their respective strengths.
We haven't had that for 3 seasons now.
Hopefully, that's now changed.

The irony is that Cam with his preference for isolation routes and sending everybody deep constantly NEEDED a Megatron, AJ Green, VJax, Roddy White/Julio Jones, etc. type or a Whitten, Gronkowski, Graham...

**dscola31** · 01-06-2013, 09:06 AM

Originally Posted by PerpetuallyBored74

Even though we don't have any beasts at WR/TE, we have a whole bunch of 2nd tier talent. You absolutely can win with those types of WRs/TEs as long as you have the right scheme in place--one that plays to their respective strengths.
We haven't had that for 3 seasons now.
Hopefully, that's now changed.

The irony is that Cam with his preference for isolation routes and sending everybody deep constantly NEEDED a Megatron, AJ Green, VJax, Roddy White/Julio Jones, etc. type or a Whitten, Gronkowski, Graham...

I absolutely agree. We might have viewed Cam differently if we had an outstanding talent at receiver. That just goes to show that you have to tailor your scheme around the players, not vice versa.

**esmd** · 01-06-2013, 10:49 AM

A great WR helps, but a great QB can make his WR's better. Look at Rodgers in GB, Peyton in Denver, etc.

**GOTA** · 01-06-2013, 11:12 AM

Originally Posted by dscola31

Yet Flacco doesn't even have a top 20 guy and gets so much hate.
How can you have AJ Green 1 on 1 all game and be scared to throw to him? When is Dalton going to start getting the Flacco treatment?
Can you imagine how good our team would be if you had a guy on the outside teams actually had to gameplan around?

If Dalton asks to be paid as a top 5 QB he'll get the Flacco treatment.

**peter46** · 01-06-2013, 11:32 AM

Originally Posted by esmd

A great WR helps, but a great QB can make his WR's better. Look at Rodgers in GB, Peyton in Denver, etc.

Totally agree . It's the difference between elite quaterbacks and 2nd tier quaterbacks.

**Paintballguy** · 01-06-2013, 11:36 AM

Originally Posted by GOTA

If Dalton asks to be paid as a top 5 QB he'll get the Flacco treatment.

Dalton can't hold flaccos jock

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**iggyman555** · 01-06-2013, 11:40 AM

Originally Posted by esmd

A great WR helps, but a great QB can make his WR's better. Look at Rodgers in GB, Peyton in Denver, etc.

brady in NE
brees in NO

**Jsmoove** · 01-06-2013, 11:41 AM

Dalton is ok, he can't be compared to flacco yet, he's not there yet. Flacco has done more with less talent and a shitty OC for years.

**Complex** · 01-06-2013, 11:47 AM

Dalton made the playoffs his first two years in the league. That is no small feat. Especially in this Division. With another year of honing his craft he just might take them deeper into the playoffs. But the NFL, she is a fickle beast, so who knows.

Originally Posted by Jsmoove

Dalton is ok, he can't be compared to flacco yet, he's not there yet. Flacco has done more with less talent and a shitty OC for years.

**CincyCat** · 01-06-2013, 11:51 AM

Dalton is getting plenty of heat on talk radio here last night and this morning. It's gonna be a long off season for Andy. The Honeymoon is over.

**sailorsam** · 01-06-2013, 11:58 AM

Originally Posted by ravensnhokies

That 3rd down overthrow was just awful. AJ was wide open. Can you imagine the vitriol Joe would have received if he missed that pass? Cincy will always be a #6 seed type team at best with Dalton. Damn I was rooting hard for them like I do when they play the Steeelers, and they always let you down (other than the shocker two weeks ago)

I think that game said more about the low level of the Stealers than the quality of the Bungles. and I don't doubt we would have beaten them last week if we'd halfway tried (ran our scrubs all game and still only lost from the pick-six)
bengals O did not impress me at all against Hst. their D just wore down.

**dscola31** · 01-06-2013, 01:32 PM

Originally Posted by CincyCat

Dalton is getting plenty of heat on talk radio here last night and this morning. It's gonna be a long off season for Andy. The Honeymoon is over.

I hear you Cat. I wonder when Marvin and Gruden are gonna be called out. That gameplan was atrocious.

**psuasskicker** · 01-06-2013, 01:40 PM

LOL @ Boldin, Smith, Jones, Pitta, Dickson and Rice as shit receivers. Seriously, that's a joke, right? Do you guys have any concept of what Aaron Rodgers would do to this league with that set of receivers?

- C -

**jonboy79** · 01-06-2013, 01:42 PM

Originally Posted by psuasskicker

LOL @ Boldin, Smith, Jones, Pitta, Dickson and Rice as shit receivers. Seriously, that's a joke, right? Do you guys have any concept of what Aaron Rodgers would do to this league with that set of receivers?

- C -

Just to clarify, are you saying this is a better group of receivers then is in GB?

Our group is NOT shit, but it's nto close to those in GB or ATL either. MIddle of the road is where we're at.

**Paintballguy** · 01-06-2013, 01:44 PM

Originally Posted by psuasskicker

LOL @ Boldin, Smith, Jones, Pitta, Dickson and Rice as shit receivers. Seriously, that's a joke, right? Do you guys have any concept of what Aaron Rodgers would do to this league with that set of receivers?

- C -

You are high Green Bay has the best set of receivers by far. Cobb Nelson are better than any receiver the ravens have

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**dscola31** · 01-06-2013, 01:46 PM

Originally Posted by psuasskicker

LOL @ Boldin, Smith, Jones, Pitta, Dickson and Rice as shit receivers. Seriously, that's a joke, right? Do you guys have any concept of what Aaron Rodgers would do to this league with that set of receivers?

- C -

I'm not calling them shit receivers. I'm saying with the combionation of 2nd tier receivers and a poor gameplan, we are at a disadvantage. If we had a top tier Rec, he could hide a lot of inadequacies with the offense.