Rob Gronkowski

**Shambla** · 01-17-2013, 04:17 PM

Even if Gronk is in and out of the lineup for a few years I think they'll have gotten their money's worth. He's a mismatch on everyone when he's in the game and then they can safely fall back to Hernandez who's pretty good when he gets injured.

**iggyman555** · 01-17-2013, 04:18 PM

http://espn.go.com/boston/nfl/story/...patriots-names

**JustaslowZ06** · 01-17-2013, 04:43 PM

Yeah I don't think he was ever off our board, just the Pats jumped up and took him before we could. I'd bet anything that if the Pats didn't do that we would've taken him. Who knows what the rest of the draft would've looked like as I doubt we get Pitta and Dickson, well maybe they still pick up Pitta dunno. Could you imagine drafting Gronk AND Pitta? I'd take just those 2 picks and leave everything else out there, Kindle, Cody, Dickson, etc....

Just for theory if we took Gronk at 25. Never traded out odd's are we'd still have Cody and Pitta. Dickson and Kindle would've been the casulties all else being equal. Ah but hindsight and all that.

Hand down our worst draft ever. Pitta excluded.

**Boulderraven** · 01-17-2013, 04:57 PM

Originally Posted by JustaslowZ06

Yeah I don't think he was ever off our board, just the Pats jumped up and took him before we could. I'd bet anything that if the Pats didn't do that we would've taken him. Who knows what the rest of the draft would've looked like as I doubt we get Pitta and Dickson, well maybe they still pick up Pitta dunno. Could you imagine drafting Gronk AND Pitta? I'd take just those 2 picks and leave everything else out there, Kindle, Cody, Dickson, etc....

Just for theory if we took Gronk at 25. Never traded out odd's are we'd still have Cody and Pitta. Dickson and Kindle would've been the casulties all else being equal. Ah but hindsight and all that.

Hand down our worst draft ever. Pitta excluded.

Not worst ever. Not to change the OP of this thread. Cody is average. Dickson solid when healthy,, Pitta good,
Jones @ DL for a 5th good value, Harewood depth for a 6th and Reed TBD. If Kindle didnt hit his head? Also Ellerbe was UFA.

**JustaslowZ06** · 01-17-2013, 05:37 PM

Originally Posted by Boulderraven

Not worst ever. Not to change the OP of this thread. Cody is average. Dickson solid when healthy,, Pitta good,
Jones @ DL for a 5th good value, Harewood depth for a 6th and Reed TBD. If Kindle didnt hit his head? Also Ellerbe was UFA.

Name a worse one than.

Cody average? he's been beat out on snap counts by a guy who rolled his fatass off the couch. Dickson, THIS YEAR hasn't had many drops but his history is far below average. Jones is a meh, for a 5th rounder you can't complain but you certainly cant sing praises either. Harewood and Reed? You're joking right? And I was a BIG Reed supporter for a long time.

**AirFlacco** · 01-17-2013, 06:18 PM

Originally Posted by iggyman555

i thought welker cost them the sb?

That too but a healthy Gronk would have won the game with his catch. He suited up but could hardly walk let alone
run.

It was a difference maker.

**RavenMadness** · 01-17-2013, 06:24 PM

Aaron Wilson ‏@RavensInsider Patriots placed Rob Gronkowski on injured reserve with forearm injury

What took so long?

**AirFlacco** · 01-17-2013, 06:36 PM

Aaron still picks NE over Ravens.

**Teavo** · 01-18-2013, 12:06 PM

Originally Posted by JustaslowZ06

Name a worse one than.

2004 draft.

Children and people with weak constitutions avert your eyes!

Round - Position - Player
2 DT Dwan Edwards
3 WR Devard Darling
5 LB Roderick Green
6 QB Josh Harris
6 WR Clarence Moore
7 WR Derek Abney
7 OL Brian Rimpf

The horror... the horror...

**Paintballguy** · 01-18-2013, 12:09 PM

Originally Posted by Teavo

2004 draft.

Children and people with weak constitutions avert your eyes!

Round - Position - Player
2 DT Dwan Edwards
3 WR Devard Darling
5 LB Roderick Green
6 QB Josh Harris
6 WR Clarence Moore
7 WR Derek Abney
7 OL Brian Rimpf

The horror... the horror...

Probably the worst draft ever. Dwan Edwards ended up being decent but nowhere near worth the pick. The rest just sucked.

**JustaslowZ06** · 01-18-2013, 12:17 PM

Originally Posted by Teavo

2004 draft.

Children and people with weak constitutions avert your eyes!

Round - Position - Player
2 DT Dwan Edwards
3 WR Devard Darling
5 LB Roderick Green
6 QB Josh Harris
6 WR Clarence Moore
7 WR Derek Abney
7 OL Brian Rimpf

The horror... the horror...

Oh damn you, I had tried to forever forget that one. But I bow to the obvious. OK second worst draft than,lol. And thanks for bringing 2004 up, jerk

**Ngata Da Vida** · 01-18-2013, 12:23 PM

Outside of a few decent years from Jason Brown, 2005 was no great shakes either.

**GOTA** · 01-18-2013, 01:02 PM

Originally Posted by Teavo

2004 draft.

Children and people with weak constitutions avert your eyes!

Round - Position - Player
2 DT Dwan Edwards
3 WR Devard Darling
5 LB Roderick Green
6 QB Josh Harris
6 WR Clarence Moore
7 WR Derek Abney
7 OL Brian Rimpf

The horror... the horror...

That was painful. A whole draft wasted on crap.

**Teavo** · 01-18-2013, 09:59 PM

Originally Posted by JustaslowZ06

Oh damn you, I had tried to forever forget that one. But I bow to the obvious. OK second worst draft than,lol. And thanks for bringing 2004 up, jerk

Ebenezer (Ebenozzie?) ... I am the ghost of Ravens drafts past! Change your ways before it is tooooooo late!

**HoustonRaven** · 01-19-2013, 07:40 AM

His absence is not nearly as a big deal as some folks are making it out to be.

All you have to do is watch their game last week and I'd say they adapted well, shifting to a one back, one TE set. Vereen had his way with the Texans.

**Paintballguy** · 01-19-2013, 07:45 AM

Originally Posted by HoustonRaven

His absence is not nearly as a big deal as some folks are making it out to be.

All you have to do is watch their game last week and I'd say they adapted well, shifting to a one back, one TE set. Vereen had his way with the Texans.

Yes it is. In the last 5 games he played excluding Houston because he got hurt he has caught 8 tds.

It doesn't mean that the patriots can't put up points but to say he isn't a big loss is inaccurate

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**The Excellector** · 01-19-2013, 08:11 AM

Originally Posted by HoustonRaven

Leading to a forearm breaking?

Back injuries lead to imbalances in the rest of the body, as the body tries to compensate. The notion that someone has shoulder pain, doesn't mean that the key injury is in the shoulder. The shoulder pain could be the effect of an injury in another part of the body that is leading to improper or overusage of another part of the body.

**goodandfast** · 01-19-2013, 08:42 AM

Originally Posted by The Excellector

Back injuries lead to imbalances in the rest of the body, as the body tries to compensate. The notion that someone has shoulder pain, doesn't mean that the key injury is in the shoulder. The shoulder pain could be the effect of an injury in another part of the body that is leading to improper or overusage of another part of the body.

That kind of explanation holds up with soft tissue damage but not with broken bones, IMO.

**The Excellector** · 01-19-2013, 08:45 AM

Originally Posted by goodandfast

That kind of explanation holds up with soft tissue damage but not with broken bones, IMO.

If those bones are weak and suddenly overused, for example, the explanation does hold.

**GOTA** · 01-19-2013, 08:45 AM

Originally Posted by The Excellector

Back injuries lead to imbalances in the rest of the body, as the body tries to compensate. The notion that someone has shoulder pain, doesn't mean that the key injury is in the shoulder. The shoulder pain could be the effect of an injury in another part of the body that is leading to improper or overusage of another part of the body.

Did you see the last game? It was a diving catch. He landed on the arm. He doesn't even have a back injury right now. That could happen to any player who flies through the air trying to catch a ball out of reach