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    Quote Originally Posted by AirFlacco View Post
    And this stupid piece doesn't consider that plus we had all those guys still out on D for Skins game but they came
    back in time for the POs and we still took the Skins to OT and should have beat em. In fact Ngata knocked RG
    out of the game and we got beat by a back up QB. RG wasn't even there in the end so this point is moot.

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...per-bowl-xlvii
    Plus our best guys are playing their best right now. Ngata and Suggs look to be back to their all pro form.


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  2. #134

    Re: how do we stop 49ers vaunted pistol offense?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paintballguy View Post
    Yep everyone saw what happened to the Patriots. They grew alligator arms in the 2nd half.
    To be fair the Patriots are the definition of a finesse team.

    I feel like you guys are so familiar with their scheme and what they try to do offensively, that it's easier to pin the ears back and just hit everything that moves.

    Like that hit on Ridley! WOOOOOOOOW! homie looked like he got shot!




  3. #135
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    Re: how do we stop 49ers vaunted pistol offense?

    Quote Originally Posted by Questforsix View Post
    To be fair the Patriots are the definition of a finesse team.

    I feel like you guys are so familiar with their scheme and what they try to do offensively, that it's easier to pin the ears back and just hit everything that moves.

    Like that hit on Ridley! WOOOOOOOOW! homie looked like he got shot!

    not many finesse teams are top 10 in rushing in the NFL

    http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorysta...2&d-447263-n=1


    Rushing Rk Team G Pts/G TotPts Att Att/G Yds Avg Yds/G TD Lng 1st 1st% 20+ 40+ FUM
    1 San Francisco 49ers 2 36.5 73 72 36.0 472 6.6 236.0 7 56T 23 31.9 4 1 1
    2 Seattle Seahawks 2 26 52 65 32.5 347 5.3 173.5 3 28 21 32.3 3 0 3
    3 Minnesota Vikings 1 10 10 29 29.0 167 5.8 167.0 0 18 11 37.9 0 0 0
    4 Indianapolis Colts 1 9 9 30 30.0 152 5.1 152.0 0 24 6 20.0 1 0 0
    5 Baltimore Ravens 3 30 90 104 34.7 446 4.3 148.7 3 43 19 18.3 3 1 3
    6 Denver Broncos 1 35 35 41 41.0 125 3.0 125.0 0 11 9 22.0 0 0 0
    7 Houston Texans 2 23.5 47 62 31.0 249 4.0 124.5 2 21 13 21.0 1 0 0
    8 Atlanta Falcons 2 27 54 49 24.5 248 5.1 124.0 0 45 11 22.4 2 1 1
    9 New England Patriots 2 27 54 52 26.0 230 4.4 115.0 2 23 14 26.9 2 0 1
    10 Washington Redskins 1 14 14 23 23.0 104 4.5 104.0 0 18 5 21.7 0 0 2
    11 Green Bay Packers 2 27.5 55 47 23.5 180 3.8 90.0 3 19 7 14.9 0 0 1
    12 Cincinnati Bengals 1 13 13 16 16.0 80 5.0 80.0 0 29 5 31.3 1 0 0
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  4. #136

    Re: how do we stop 49ers vaunted pistol offense?

    Quote Originally Posted by iggyman555 View Post
    not many finesse teams are top 10 in rushing in the NFL

    http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorysta...2&d-447263-n=1


    Rushing Rk Team G Pts/G TotPts Att Att/G Yds Avg Yds/G TD Lng 1st 1st% 20+ 40+ FUM
    1 San Francisco 49ers 2 36.5 73 72 36.0 472 6.6 236.0 7 56T 23 31.9 4 1 1
    2 Seattle Seahawks 2 26 52 65 32.5 347 5.3 173.5 3 28 21 32.3 3 0 3
    3 Minnesota Vikings 1 10 10 29 29.0 167 5.8 167.0 0 18 11 37.9 0 0 0
    4 Indianapolis Colts 1 9 9 30 30.0 152 5.1 152.0 0 24 6 20.0 1 0 0
    5 Baltimore Ravens 3 30 90 104 34.7 446 4.3 148.7 3 43 19 18.3 3 1 3
    6 Denver Broncos 1 35 35 41 41.0 125 3.0 125.0 0 11 9 22.0 0 0 0
    7 Houston Texans 2 23.5 47 62 31.0 249 4.0 124.5 2 21 13 21.0 1 0 0
    8 Atlanta Falcons 2 27 54 49 24.5 248 5.1 124.0 0 45 11 22.4 2 1 1
    9 New England Patriots 2 27 54 52 26.0 230 4.4 115.0 2 23 14 26.9 2 0 1
    10 Washington Redskins 1 14 14 23 23.0 104 4.5 104.0 0 18 5 21.7 0 0 2
    11 Green Bay Packers 2 27.5 55 47 23.5 180 3.8 90.0 3 19 7 14.9 0 0 1
    12 Cincinnati Bengals 1 13 13 16 16.0 80 5.0 80.0 0 29 5 31.3 1 0 0
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    Not many, but judging by this list there's some.

    The Packers, Broncos, Falcons, and Colts. I would all consider finesse groups. Not to mention the aforementioned Pats.




  5. #137
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    Re: how do we stop 49ers vaunted pistol offense?

    Interesting OL rankings, run vs pass

    http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/OL




  6. #138
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    Re: how do we stop 49ers vaunted pistol offense?

    sterling sharpe on playbook said that 49ers run mostly to the right and pass mostly to the left side...FILMSTUDY can you please give some input on this? TIA




  7. #139

    Re: how do we stop 49ers vaunted pistol offense?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeremiah W View Post
    The Ravens have also shown recently that the regular season stats are irrelavent. The defense is pretty healthy, intact and stacked at every level. Cody and the NT spot may not have looked good, but Nagta, McPhee and Jones have been playing well up front. Ellerbe has been playing hurt but still been explosive. Ray Lewis is Ray Lewis. Suggs is looking healthier, Kruger is hot. Upshaw provides depth now outside. Reed is willing to hit, Pollard is hitting like Ray Lewis used to. Williams and Grahm have been very solid recently and Brown and Smith have had solid games when teams had in extra wrs. Defense has always been more about players than schemes, guys that get off blocks and make tackles can make any scheme work.

    As far as the pistol or any kind of option look, the how to questions seem like highschool math and coaching schemes. It has been the blocking and bad tackling that let SF run thier way to the SB with thier QB.

    If the guy who the offense turns loose attacks the QB with the ferocity of Clowney on that poor rb from Michagan, they are not going to run it again all day, I promise you. I love football now the way I do because of freshman year football practicing defense vs the option. The coaches just telling me it is my job to hit the QB as hard as can and the offense is not even going to try to block me. Are you kidding me? It seemed like the worst scheme you could draw up. The QB did not ever get right up after those collisions. The coaches told me that the only time they want me to tackle the dive man is if I take the QB with me, which I pretty much was able to do any time an opposing team was foolish enough to run options to my side and leave me unblocked. Obviously not everyone plays it that way, and the optioned guy often just stands there and does exactly what the offense wants you to do, or they take the bait and QB walks around the corner for a big gain. If you do not take advantage of the free shot they are giving you, on the starting QB, the franchise, and do not make him pay a heavy price the first time and every time he runs at an unblocked guy, and you do not take it, then you do not deserve to be in the SB or to win it.
    I think the Ravens will be ready to defend the sprint option or any scheme you can dream up, because right now they are very hard to block, and they are tackling like Ray Lewis would tackle, pretty much every time recently.

    SF does have an awesome offense though so this is going to be quite a challenge. I think it will be a much more conventional attack though, power run, playaction with them hoping to only have the QB run on scrambles.
    This.

    The only problem as I see it is, will they call a penalty on a normal football play. The only way to defend an option is to tackle the QB. But, this is the new "kinder gentler" NFL so who knows.




  8. #140

    Re: how do we stop 49ers vaunted pistol offense?

    Quote Originally Posted by Questforsix View Post
    I hope to GOD that the Ravens force him to be a passer. The kid threw 5 incompletions last week. One of which was a TD pass that Crabtree couldn't get his feet down on.

    The kid can flat-out throw the football.
    Ravens D has held Luck, Manning and Brady to ONE TD in the 2nd half of games TOTAL. NE and DENVER the 2 highest scoring teams in NFL AND AT HOME. Ravens are SMART DEFENSIVELY with Lewis, Suggs, Reed and Pollard. Expect FG's. Ravens have had 2 weeks to prepare for him, no team has had that and faced RG3 pistol offense and Luck as well recently.




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    Re: how do we stop 49ers vaunted pistol offense?

    Ravens just beat Luck, Manning and Brady lead teams. I don't think CK scares them and they'll find ways to confuse the looks or play it like they did against NE where they rarely rushed more than 4. Atlanta made no defensive adjustments and stayed in their 5--3-3 look the whole game. It worked for one half but not two.
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    Re: how do we stop 49ers vaunted pistol offense?

    Here's the headline I want to see on February 4:

    Ravens Defense Turns 49ers "Pistol" Into Kaep Gun




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    Re: how do we stop 49ers vaunted pistol offense?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boulderraven View Post
    Ravens D has held Luck, Manning and Brady to ONE TD in the 2nd half of games TOTAL. NE and DENVER the 2 highest scoring teams in NFL AND AT HOME. Ravens are SMART DEFENSIVELY with Lewis, Suggs, Reed and Pollard. Expect FG's. Ravens have had 2 weeks to prepare for him, no team has had that and faced RG3 pistol offense and Luck as well recently.
    I think we can all agree that Manning's arm was lookin hella gimpy in that game. Dude was throwing 6 yard passes all day.

    If you look at the game as a whole, the Denver secondary was the reason they lost the game.

    Flacco was throwing jump balls all day.

    As for the Pats, you guys play them hard every time. You're like their kryptonite. But that's because you've played them 3 times in the last two seasons.

    Familiarity breeds comfort with handling their offense. Especially when the core of both groups (NE offense and BAL defense) are more or less the same.

    I think it's gonna take at least a half to adjust to what we do offensively.

    And it's not just the pistol, our heavy look has given teams trouble. We're nice out of the traditional shotty and pro-style offense.




  12. #144

    Re: how do we stop 49ers vaunted pistol offense?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ravenswintitle View Post
    It worked for one half but not two.
    I dont even think it worked for a half. Maybe a half of a quarter.




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