What They Are Saying About the Ravens- Super Bowl Edition

**The Excellector** · 01-22-2013, 07:32 AM

Opposing team message boards, podcasts, radio, satellite, outer space.

Put it all here.

I've been looking for a Flacco thread on a Falcons board, but haven't found one (Yes, I know that's immature). Could someone help me out with that?

**leachisabeast** · 01-22-2013, 07:43 AM

Been doing the same thing, all they can talk about is firing Mike Smith, and how mass changes need to happen on the defense.

You wont find much blame for Matty Ice over there, nearly every single fan base or board will support their QB to the death, unless its Mark Sanchez, or Michael Vick (Philly fans), or Matt Cassel etc.

**Justlovemybirds** · 01-22-2013, 07:49 AM

Lol I can't lie I peeked over there for a Ryan v.s. Flacco thread myself.

**The Excellector** · 01-22-2013, 07:56 AM

I just saw that there is already a thread, but dag if that thread isn't long as hell. This one could hang in there, at least for a week.

Leach,

I will say that I do remember reading some doubt about Ryan after their loss to the Giants last year. However, they were more so similar to us in that they were trying to figure out whether or not it was the OC (Whom they fired) or Ryan.

**Justlovemybirds** · 01-22-2013, 08:17 AM

Kinda OT but freakin Jamie Dukes

Only time I've liked the guy

**somedumbguy** · 01-22-2013, 08:25 AM

I have been listenning to a lot of Boston Sports Talk Radio and here are my take aways:

1) There is a growing contingent that believes Brady does not have it anymore and they should go find a new QB.
2) Most people understand that the Ravens won because they were the more physical team and that they put the ball in Flaccos hand and he stepped up.
3) Bernard Pollard is by far the most hated Raven and as far as I can tell, he might be the most hated football player in New England not named Manning.

**wickedsolo** · 01-22-2013, 08:32 AM

Originally Posted by leachisabeast

Been doing the same thing, all they can talk about is firing Mike Smith, and how mass changes need to happen on the defense.

You wont find much blame for Matty Ice over there, nearly every single fan base or board will support their QB to the death, unless its Mark Sanchez, or Michael Vick (Philly fans), or Matt Cassel etc.

I could see Mike Smith being on the hot seat.

However, I dont know if anyone else noticed this, but did you guys see how Matt Ryan's passes majorly (MAJORLY) died after like 15 yards unless he put a ton of loft on the pass? It seemed like all of his receivers were having to go down low to get passes that were longer than 15 yards.

Ryan better hope he is a Falcon for life, because there is no way in hell he could play at a high level for an entire season in an outdoor stadium...especially in the north.

**leachisabeast** · 01-22-2013, 08:41 AM

Originally Posted by wickedsolo

I could see Mike Smith being on the hot seat.

However, I dont know if anyone else noticed this, but did you guys see how Matt Ryan's passes majorly (MAJORLY) died after like 15 yards unless he put a ton of loft on the pass? It seemed like all of his receivers were having to go down low to get passes that were longer than 15 yards.

Ryan better hope he is a Falcon for life, because there is no way in hell he could play at a high level for an entire season in an outdoor stadium...especially in the north.

Have you seen "Matty Ice" numbers against top ranked defenses? They are down right appalling. I agree, while I think Matt Ryan would have had some success in Baltimore had we drafted him, but not as much as Joe has had. I'd say he puts up similar kind of regular season stats as Joe, but screws a ton of games up that Joe didn't at the start of his career. I doubt Matt Ryan would have made it to the conference game in 08, but I think he would have had more than 1 play off wins by now had he played here. Ultimately Joe has shown in this post season that you can put the ball into his hands and he can win you the big games, Matt Ryans biggest win was against the Seahawks at home last week, in a game they were lucky to win.

**Ravenswintitle** · 01-22-2013, 08:44 AM

Originally Posted by wickedsolo

I could see Mike Smith being on the hot seat.

However, I dont know if anyone else noticed this, but did you guys see how Matt Ryan's passes majorly (MAJORLY) died after like 15 yards unless he put a ton of loft on the pass? It seemed like all of his receivers were having to go down low to get passes that were longer than 15 yards.

Ryan better hope he is a Falcon for life, because there is no way in hell he could play at a high level for an entire season in an outdoor stadium...especially in the north.

No doubt Smith and Nolan got outcoached in the 2nd half but also Ryan was weak. Late in the half he separated his shoulder but the game was pretty much in hand by then. Big players/coaches step up in the biggest situations. These guys haven't shown they can do that yet. And last thing... there is no more tread on Turner...

**goldenelite28** · 01-22-2013, 08:45 AM

I know from reading the atlantalife board that they do not want Flacco to win before Ryan.

**alienrace** · 01-22-2013, 08:49 AM

Matt Ryan's weak arm isn't surprising to me - look at that narrow frame and skinny body. It's almost disturbingly narrow and frail looking.

**The Excellector** · 01-22-2013, 08:52 AM

So far,

PTI: Michael Wilbon has certainly given respect to Joe Flacco. He admitted that he has been very critical of Joe Flacco in the past, but that Joe Flacco said he was Elite and that, while he won't call Flacco elite, he's has stepped up big time.

Around the Horn: Very complimentary about the Ravens as a whole. Unanimous that they didn't like the high spikes from Brady.

Mike and Mike in the Morning: High praise for Flacco from Greenberg and Golic. Chris Carter and Tim Hasslebeck continued to be the assholes they've painted themselves to be. Hasslebeck, in particular, screams jealousy and denial, not wanting to admit that he was wrong.

Kurt Warner: Won't necessarily go into whether or not Joe is elite, but said that Joe will be paid and has earned every penny.

**The Excellector** · 01-22-2013, 08:53 AM

Originally Posted by goldenelite28

I know from reading the atlantalife board that they do not want Flacco to win before Ryan.

Help me find a link! lol.

**YorkRavensFan** · 01-22-2013, 08:55 AM

Mike and Mike just predicted Ravens win and Flacco as the MVP. Reason was that no quarterback has ever put up 8 TDs and 0 INTs in the playoffs and not won the Superbowl and been named MVP.

**YorkRavensFan** · 01-22-2013, 08:57 AM

Originally Posted by goldenelite28

I know from reading the atlantalife board that they do not want Flacco to win before Ryan.

Guess they are going to be pissed in 2 weeks then

**goldenelite28** · 01-22-2013, 08:59 AM

Originally Posted by The Excellector

Help me find a link! lol.

http://boards.atlantafalcons.com/top...they-will-say/

Some don't want Flacco to get a ring. Others want the 49ers to win because it makes their team look better.

**Ravens27Girl** · 01-22-2013, 09:36 AM

Originally Posted by goldenelite28

I know from reading the atlantalife board that they do not want Flacco to win before Ryan.

Let's compare their accomplishments and Flacco blows Ryan out of the water. Screw the Falcons' fans. Flacco WILL get a ring before Ryan as well as he should.

**JohnBKistler** · 01-22-2013, 09:43 AM

A couple of Ravens fans (none being me) have been having a running debate with Texan fans over the various rankings of the playoff QBs:

http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/sho...=97545&page=11

The thread started before the playoffs...so (if you have the time) it is interesting to see how the perception of Schaub (down) and Flacco (up..sorta) has changed as the playoffs have transpired.

Most seem reasonable in their analysis of Flacco...with many now giving him the respect he's earned. But their is also a very vocal segment that still sees Flacco as some sort of recipient of a great defense, and therefore really is no better than Schaub. They seem to place an inordinate amount of stock onto Flacco's (and the Ravens') horrific performance in Houston earlier this season.

And here is a general discussion on the Ravens and Texans...in particular in regards to their respective games against the Patriots.

http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=98066

Many Texans fans are being reasonable and giving the Ravens credit/respect. But some are not. Again, I think for those that are not prepared to give the Ravens/Flacco credit, it goes back to how they demolished the Ravens in October and are now having a hard time understanding how that team is representing the AFC in the Super Bowl. I guess that is somewhat understandable...

**iggyman555** · 01-22-2013, 10:06 AM

Originally Posted by The Excellector

So far,

PTI: Michael Wilbon has certainly given respect to Joe Flacco. He admitted that he has been very critical of Joe Flacco in the past, but that Joe Flacco said he was Elite and that, while he won't call Flacco elite, he's has stepped up big time.

Around the Horn: Very complimentary about the Ravens as a whole. Unanimous that they didn't like the high spikes from Brady.

Mike and Mike in the Morning: High praise for Flacco from Greenberg and Golic. Chris Carter and Tim Hasslebeck continued to be the assholes they've painted themselves to be. Hasslebeck, in particular, screams jealousy and denial, not wanting to admit that he was wrong.

Kurt Warner: Won't necessarily go into whether or not Joe is elite, but said that Joe will be paid and has earned every penny.

kurt is a little upset that quan said flacco is the best QB he has played with...but he says that quan texted him and they are still friend and he loved quan

**Paintballguy** · 01-22-2013, 10:10 AM

Originally Posted by iggyman555

kurt is a little upset that quan said flacco is the best QB he has played with...but he says that quan texted him and they are still friend and he loved quan

To be fair, Boldin said "most talented".