Ray Lewis PED Allegations (Merged)

[Raveninwoodlawn]

It seems like this company goes out of its way to record their conversations with players:



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Why so eager to have a recording of everything? A pen camera? Really?

Lewis would be dumb enough to directly call this guy and say "pile it up and send it to me"? Really? He wouldn't insulate himself at all from the transactions? Maybe he will say he didn't see anything wrong with it????

If IGF-1 is banned and you eat deer antler extract which contains IGF-1, then you just consumed a banned substance. Plain and simple. How could you not think that would come back to bite you?

Not good to see Merriman listed either.

Looks like they wanted to have a way to convince others to use the substance...they knew that no players would be outspoken in support of it because it is banned, so this way, they could have something to show future clients.

Although to me it clearly would defeat the purpose as they are now going to be looked at as snitches.

Dropping this gets their name out...big time.

So what if Ray did? A 37 year old turning to sports science to repair his body to compete with men 15 years younger than him. From how the national media talk about Ray losing his ability to play football because of his age one would have to assume that drugs aren't helping at all. NFL players are using drugs to enhance their physical ability (except Todd Heap) to the point where it's a non-story unless someone has an agenda and wants to call it out. To me this is just like holding, it happens on every play it just doesn't get called very often.

Dude...if he took it, he cheated. Bottom line. If a Steeler or Patriot was doing it, it doesn't matter...anybody who did this cheated.

We'll have to wait to see if anything else comes out of it, but the damage has been and will continue to be done.

I am beginning to hate what football is becoming in this country. From fans who spew ignorance and hate to the media digging up crap just to have a story. Mike Florio is the lowest piece of trash known to mankind. He has always hated on the Ravens. Everyone wants to discredit the Ravens in some way this week from Flacco to Ray. I've had it and I won't be watching the sports coverage OR fan forums (other than the Ravens forums). Bunch of jealous haters who don't have a fucking life...pardon my french but this shit brings out the worst in me.

What the hell does Florio have to do with this? He simply is reporting something that another respected media outlet reported. Did you complain when he ran with the Ben Rape stories?

[Paintballguy]

Unless there is proof of a failed drug test, this is a hack article.

[MyTurn]

if this is true, it's a banned substance.

The key is really going to be, would/did he fail a drug test?

If not, not enough evidence to prove it. Maybe he bought it and didn't use it. I'm telling you, WHOLE thing smells of a hack job.

I agree, smells like a hack job. I get that it's a banned substance however I highly doubt that most NFL players are the size and strength they are through natural selection. There may be some legal drugs that can get someone to that size, I know nothing about this drug industry, but I am sure that if the NFL found out about it they would ban them too. My point being that you could probably call out 75% of the players on any NFL team that are using banned substances. Obviously this is my opinion and I can't back this up except through observation of physical stature.

[Uli2001]

These people never learn. This piece of well-timed mud slinging is just another opportunity for the team to get even more determined to win this. The chip on the shoulder just got bigger.

[scbgirlxo]

Does anyone have any proof he used it?

I'm guessing no.

[bt12483]

Isn't this story years old?

I remember someone pointing out that several athletes receive offers like this all the time and instead of arguing they just say "sure send it to me".

Does anyone have any proof he used it?

Yeah the Alabama stuff is old.

The excuse will be that he ordered the entire SWATS package, which consists of holographic stickers, etc., and the package just so happened to contain some deer antler stuff.

It is a stupid decision regardless. A lot of this seems like junk science, and to risk being associated with a banned substance is idiotic IMO.

[bt12483]

PETA is going to be coming after him next.

LOL

hey, don't worry...the antlers grow back faster than anything on Earth according to the back alley former stripper "scientists" that are selling this stuff.

[NCRAVEN]

I'm guessing no.

Non story. Moving on.

[bt12483]

Looks like they wanted to have a way to convince others to use the substance...they knew that no players would be outspoken in support of it because it is banned, so this way, they could have something to show future clients.

Although to me it clearly would defeat the purpose as they are now going to be looked at as snitches.

Dropping this gets their name out...big time.

This is my thought. So, you are going to record me and then effectively out me?

Record me with a pen camera? The only reason you use a pen camera is to be sneaky.

[Hammerhead]

These people never learn. This piece of well-timed mud slinging is just another opportunity for the team to get even more determined to win this. The chip on the shoulder just got bigger.

This. I don't think that the team will be undercut if this becomes a big story. I think it will bring the team together even more and support the Us vs. The World storyline.

[JAB1985]

A bottle contains around 180 sprays, and a typical dose is three sprays. Thus, a single dose of deer antler velvet contains between 50 and 84 nanograms of IGF-1. In order to mimic the research study that found IGF-1 to have similar benefits to growth hormone you would need to consume between 1,500,000 to 906,000 sprays PER DAY: that’s between 8,333 to 5,033 bottles per day. Think of the cost alone.

I had to do some research, because quite frankly im unfamiliar with deer antler velvet and its effects or if its even real. The above seems to claim that its not even remotely viable option to HGH, yet its effects vs a placebo prove otherwise. I have no idea what to think on the PED aspect.

if its illegal its illegal and quite frankly its not the first time i thought he possible could have been taking HGH. It wouldnt shock me if he did, but the timing is off. simply put its somebody trying to make a name for themselves off somebody else and if indeed it was months/weeks ago, the timing pretty much proves that. Ill wait for more info for a final opinion.

[Captain Silver]

This isn't going to tarnish Ray's legacy. Give me a break you guys. Had Ray failed a drug test, I'd give a shit, this is some BOGUS ASS story and the last people that should be giving it any thought are Raven fans.

[Bigfish]

Really? I've been on message boards for years and not once have I said anything about Ray Lewis being a murderer.

I just posted a link with it, just click on that and you won't be able to say that again.

I'm not going to the trouble of researching more evidence since your stance is that of a ridiculous troll.

[bt12483]

It wouldnt shock me if he did, but the timing is off. simply put its somebody trying to make a name for themselves off somebody else and if indeed it was months/weeks ago, the timing pretty much proves that. Ill wait for more info for a final opinion.

This is my opinion too.

You record this conversation in October, and it just so happens to come out on SB media day?

Why not after the first playoff game? Why not after the second playoff game? Why not after the THIRD playoff game????

Oh...I know why...maximum exposure.

If we don;t make the SB I doubt this every gets published. Someone is looking to cash in someway, somehow.

Free publicity for SWATS to attract more gullible players. Yes, our holographic RF patches will cure cancer...just buy $3000 worth and wait for the results.

[bt12483]

All the reporters piled up at Ray's booth.

I wonder who will be the first to ask about it.

He is coming out now.

[RavenScallywag]

This is my opinion too.

You record this conversation in October, and it just so happens to come out on SB media day?

Why not after the first playoff game? Why not after the second playoff game? Why not after the THIRD playoff game????

Oh...I know why...maximum exposure.

If we don;t make the SB I doubt this every gets published. Someone is looking to cash in someway, somehow.

Free publicity for SWATS to attract more gullible players. Yes, our holographic RF patches will cure cancer...just buy $3000 worth and wait for the results.

Right...if they wanted to get Ray in REAL trouble, it would've come out after the Colts game.

[Jayc00]

Nobody on the Network brought it up yet.

[RavenScallywag]

Is Florio there? I'm betting the real media know nothing about it yet.

First mention would come from Denver, New England, Pitt media, or Florio.

[Bigfish]

The more I think about it, the more it appears to be a stunt to get free publicity for a company peddling snake oil.

[NCRAVEN]

The more I think about it, the more it appears to be a stunt to get free publicity for a company peddling snake oil.

Case closed.