Retirement/release thread

**wickedsolo** · 02-04-2013, 10:13 AM

Originally Posted by Dirt1

Ngata retiring would destroy the Ravens cap all by itself for next year. All of his remaining prorated signing bonus would accelerate onto next year's cap. I think Ngata plays out his current contract and then retires.

It would be a bad bad thing.

I think he plays his contract out (2 more years? 3?), but the possibility certainly exists.

**arnie_uk** · 02-04-2013, 10:17 AM

Originally Posted by leachisabeast

He wont retire, he still has a lot of years left in him. When he left in the 2nd half it really hurt us, he was dominating double teams in the first half, flat out destroying them.

Considering he's already talked about it and tony Lombardi said the threat is looming in the not to distance future, if he's done ligaments and needs surgery he could very well consider it

**Dirt1** · 02-04-2013, 10:24 AM

Originally Posted by arnie_uk

Considering he's already talked about it and tony Lombardi said the threat is looming in the not to distance future, if he's done ligaments and needs surgery he could very well consider it

I don't know. Here are the details for Ngata's contract. He is signed through the 2015 season, so for 3 more years. So, Ngata has yet to be paid $12.5 million of his $61 million contract. This would be similar to what J.O. did. Sign a big extension and then retire early after getting his guaranteed money. I respect Haloti too much to question him, but it would cripple the Ravens for next year.

9/20/2011: Signed a five-year, $61 million contract. The deal contains $37.1 million guaranteed, including a $25 million signing bonus. 2012: $2.9 million (+ $10 million "signing" bonus), 2013: $4 million, 2014-15: $8.5 million, 2016: Free Agent

**Ravenalytics** · 02-04-2013, 10:27 AM

If Ngata wants to retire but not fuck us can he just be on IR for two years or something?

**wickedsolo** · 02-04-2013, 10:46 AM

Originally Posted by organizedchaos21

Did you not see him go down in the 3rd yesterday? He had an OL go shoulder first into his knee on Gore's TD run. It did not look pretty, and he quickly went from questionable to return to doubtful. I think it's a safe bet that it was a rather serious injury.

That's what I saw and it is certainly worrisome.

**GOTA** · 02-04-2013, 10:47 AM

Originally Posted by NCRAVEN

I think Reed retires too.

No way that happens. Reed was quoted last night saying he can still play for many years in this league.

**wickedsolo** · 02-04-2013, 10:51 AM

Originally Posted by GOTA

No way that happens. Reed was quoted last night saying he can still play for many years in this league.

He also said he was on an emotional high and he would take some time to think it over and see how he feels.

**GOTA** · 02-04-2013, 10:53 AM

Originally Posted by wickedsolo

He also said he was on an emotional high and he would take some time to think it over and see how he feels.

Reed has talked about money for how many years now? There is no way he is going to leave a dime on the table. He's got 1 decent contract left and he's going to get it.

**wickedsolo** · 02-04-2013, 10:54 AM

Originally Posted by GOTA

Reed has talked about money for how many years now? There is no way he is going to leave a dime on the table. He's got 1 decent contract left and he's going to get it.

Maybe.

If no one comes calling, he may just hang'em up.

**Dirt1** · 02-04-2013, 10:58 AM

Originally Posted by wickedsolo

Maybe.

If no one comes calling, he may just hang'em up.

I still think he ends up with the Colts. Pagano will come calling. He and Ed go way back. Pagano recruited Ed to Miami, coached him there, and coached him with the Ravens. I have heard Ed interviewed several times where he referred to Pagano as a father-figure in his life. The Costs have cap room, and could use Ed's services for 1-2 years.

**GOTA** · 02-04-2013, 11:03 AM

Originally Posted by wickedsolo

Maybe.

If no one comes calling, he may just hang'em up.

Bob Sanders after being so hurt that he played 8 games in 3 years was able to get a contract with the Chargers. They're going to be calling Ed Reed. Especially in 2013 where a handful of teams have to spend money to get to the new salary cap floor.

**Shambla** · 02-04-2013, 11:13 AM

Originally Posted by organizedchaos21

Did you not see him go down in the 3rd yesterday? He had an OL go shoulder first into his knee on Gore's TD run. It did not look pretty, and he quickly went from questionable to return to doubtful. I think it's a safe bet that it was a rather serious injury.

I think he walking around in the confetti yesterday so it shouldn't be too gruesome. I believe he's scheduled to get some work done on the knee anyway so I think he's going to do that, rehab hard and I think if he were to announce retirement it wouldn't be until late in the offseason (if his health didn't return). That said, he'd be turning down 10's of millions of dollars and you just don't see guys doing that so I think he'll be back.

**Justlovemybirds** · 02-04-2013, 11:15 AM

Bobbie Williams probably isn't retiring

http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/r...,1061906.story

"Do I want to play again next year? Yeah, absolutely. This year has been a blessing. I played in spurts, which allowed me to heal."

**BcRaven** · 02-04-2013, 11:18 AM

Originally Posted by Dirt1

I don't think that Ed Reed or Ngata are going to retire. Ed can still get one more payday...

Ngata? Haloti is only 29, still a force, and is making big bucks. Why would he retire? IMO Ed Reed wants to continue playing, but may not see a big payday in 2013. Now Matt Birk will be 37, so he may be a potential retirement candidate... Bc

**NCRAVEN** · 02-04-2013, 11:20 AM

Originally Posted by GOTA

Reed has talked about money for how many years now? There is no way he is going to leave a dime on the table. He's got 1 decent contract left and he's going to get it.

We'll see. I give him about a 75% chance to retire.