Dean Pees deserves a lot of credit

**Section 502 Raven** · 02-09-2013, 09:38 AM

there's no way the ravens had the defensive talent to beat the 49ers. the interior line was weak especially without nghata and as much as i love ray he has been done for a while pertaining to pass coverage.

pees defensive calls on the ravens last stand in the Super Bowl to run blitz and make the qb beat our secondary from 7 yards out was top notch management.

**outlander512** · 02-09-2013, 09:44 AM

If he gets credit, I would give even MORE credit to Dean Pees.

**RavenScallywag** · 02-09-2013, 09:44 AM

Yeah, is Dan Pees like Dean Pees' father?

Did he coach with Jack Harbaugh's dad?

LOL

**HoustonRaven** · 02-09-2013, 09:50 AM

I corrected the title ....

And I'm not going to give Pees as much credit as some.

That defense, all through the playoffs, gave up way too many yards (and points in the Super Bowl). Yes, that goal line stand was amazing but I viewed that as more of a player victory than a coaching one.

Hopefully, younger and faster talent is the solution there.

**jonboy79** · 02-09-2013, 09:53 AM

I gave him a LOT of crap early in the year for playing nothing but Soft AZZ zones, and giving up too many plays underneath with is playcalling, and while it still kind of occurred, I will give him props for calling what he needed to to keep teams out of the endzone more often then not.

**alienrace** · 02-09-2013, 10:12 AM

Originally Posted by HoustonRaven

Yes, that goal line stand was amazing but I viewed that as more of a player victory than a coaching one.

It was both. The decision to make a second year QB beat you with his arm rather than let them pound it in was the perfect choice. Kap panicked and locked onto his primary each time, allowing the Ravens to easily defend. Bringing the house on the last play after laying back on the previous two was perfect.

**bmorecareful** · 02-09-2013, 10:38 AM

Originally Posted by HoustonRaven

I corrected the title ....

And I'm not going to give Pees as much credit as some.

That defense, all through the playoffs, gave up way too many yards (and points in the Super Bowl). Yes, that goal line stand was amazing but I viewed that as more of a player victory than a coaching one.

Hopefully, younger and faster talent is the solution there.

It's a mixed bag of credit and blame. I think Pees made a lot of good playcalls (the zero blitzes on the goal line in the SB were perfect) and put together a lot of good gameplans.

The thing is... Pees' preferred base pass defense is quarters coverage. That puts a lot of pressure on your LBs to cover the short zones, and that was a miserable matchup of defensive scheme to personnel. Blame Pees for not getting away from it, I guess. I personally hate quarters coverage, I think we would do better playing more 2-deep press man.

**Boulderraven** · 02-09-2013, 11:11 AM

Pees did a great job once players got healthy and incorporating new peices. Remember he lost Webb, Suggs was maybe 3/4's of himself for half the year, Ngata hurt, down 3 Mlb's, down Jimmy Smith and Pollard was hurt. Then got shit play from the guys in the middle in Cody and Kemo. Plus Mcphee was injured most of the season. They finished strong is what mattered vs good offenses.
They lost also....Redding, Mckinney and JJ to start to FA. I think he really turned it around, with as "buck would say" alot of moving parts.

**saintmatthew** · 02-09-2013, 11:46 AM

Originally Posted by Boulderraven

Pees did a great job once players got healthy and incorporating new peices. Remember he lost Webb, Suggs was maybe 3/4's of himself for half the year, Ngata hurt, down 3 Mlb's, down Jimmy Smith and Pollard was hurt. Then got shit play from the guys in the middle in Cody and Kemo. Plus Mcphee was injured most of the season. They finished strong is what mattered vs good offenses.
They lost also....Redding, Mckinney and JJ to start to FA. I think he really turned it around, with as "buck would say" alot of moving parts.

Suggs was never better than 50%. Tops

**The Excellector** · 02-09-2013, 11:50 AM

I gave him criticism when I felt that his defensive schemes were too soft. I have to give him credit now for his play-calling in the postseason. Both Peyton Manning and Tom Brady admitted, in their post game conferences, that the Ravens defenses threw them an array of looks that caused confusion. That takes coaching skill.

**Iscull** · 02-10-2013, 11:22 AM

Originally Posted by saintmatthew

Suggs was never better than 50%. Tops

Agreed. Next season, hopefully he can get back to 100.

**DonNMass** · 02-09-2013, 07:04 PM

Originally Posted by HoustonRaven

I corrected the title ....

And I'm not going to give Pees as much credit as some.

That defense, all through the playoffs, gave up way too many yards (and points in the Super Bowl). Yes, that goal line stand was amazing but I viewed that as more of a player victory than a coaching one.

Hopefully, younger and faster talent is the solution there.

Agree completely. I still feel the Ravens players won in spite of Pees and not because of him. Way, way too many yards given up, and the Ravens were fairly in tact against Vick and showed nothing of the Ravens aggressive D that, in McCrary's words, should have pinned their ears back and made Vick react, not the other way around. And losing to Batch!?

Didn't A Thomas falter in NE because his aggressive Raven's style of D wasn't used and he had to play bend not break? Pees was the D coord I believe, I'll have to check, but makes me wonder how will we know when we have another Thomas style player in this style D?

**Ravenswintitle** · 02-09-2013, 07:23 PM

This was one of the worse defenses in years; not just due to injury. I'm not yet sold on DP

**RavensDomination** · 02-10-2013, 12:47 PM

Originally Posted by Ravenswintitle

This was one of the worse defenses in years; not just due to injury. I'm not yet sold on DP

Agreed. In my mind he isn't aggressive enough to be a Ravens DC. Even with injuries this defense had a lot of talent left. I do give Pees credit for showing up big with the play calling on the last drive, supposedly Harbs was trying to get him to zero blitz on the play that Klapperdick ran out of the pocket to his right. If we would have done that it probably would have been an easy score for him.

**lobachevsky** · 02-10-2013, 10:35 AM

Originally Posted by HoustonRaven

I'm not going to give Pees as much credit as some.

Just curious, but would you give him more or less credit than Moeller? The OL play really didn't improve until McKinnie reentered the starting lineup & Oher & KO could move to their natural positions.

Meanwhile at one point or another during the year Pees had to deal with injuries to Sizzle, Ray, Pollard, McClain, Webb, Ngata, McPhee, Ellerbe, JSmith, and Kruger. That's more than half the starting lineup plus rotations--& only the last 4 were back at anywhere near 100% for the playoff run.

IMO Pees did more with a chronically depleted defense than Moeller did with the OL until he was able to start three former All-Pros with 9 Pro-Bowl selections amongst them.