Where Does Flacco Rank Amongsts the League's Best QB's?

[SuggsKill]

1. Brady
2. Manning
3. Rodgers
4. Brees
5. Luck (for next year)
6. Flacco?

[Paintballguy]

The only qb I have in front of flacco is arod.


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[runrayrun27]

1. Brady
2. Manning
3. Rodgers
4. Brees
5. Luck (for next year)
6. Flacco?

If Ben's healthy he has an edge on Flacco (big IF though)

[The Excellector]

Circumstantial:

Aaron Rodgers
Ben Roethlisberger (If healthy)
Drew Brees (With Coach Payton back)
Joe Flacco (With Jim Caldwell)
Eli Manning
Tom Brady
Peyton Manning

Without such circumstances.

Rodgers
Flacco
Brees
Manning
Brady
Manning (Peyton)
Roethlisberger

Roethlisberger isn't getting any healthier. Peyton's arm had already failed him in previous playoff appearances, before the injury, in the cold weather. I can't put Brady ahead of Eli and I can't put Peyton ahead of Brady.

[Purpleguy]

If you factor in age and upside, I put him ahead of everyone but Rodgers. Since Cam has been gone he has looked unbeatable. He may never reach Brady or Peyton in their prime status, but I would take him over the current versions of those guys.

[Beau Petard]

SuggsKill-
Almost pointless question unless you define "best".

This type of debate has been done for "elite", not sure how "best" is any "better".

[psuasskicker]

Hard to say right now.

For guys you want to get one or two great years from, he's still behind Brees, Manning and Brady. But you're not taking those three for a five-to-ten year stretch if that's what you want.

He's clearly separated himself from the Cutler, Romo, Stafford, Schaub, Rivers, Dalton crowd.

I put him somewhere among the Luck, RGIII, Wilson, Newton, Ryan group. He's a young guy, may wind up getting better, clearly established as a great QB who you want leading your team for the next several years. I make him out to be a younger Eli Manning.

He's pretty much top ten no matter how you cut the list at this point.

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[lovefootball]

This year he is the best because he has the current MVP for the SB. The other QBs have their rings too. To Ravens fans, Flacco is all that matters seeing what he has accomplished in 5 years. Eli and Rodgers are the last two to win the SB on their arms. Top 10 for Flacco and saying that he is going to win more games then all the others compared to their time in the NFL.

[pslholder96]

Flacco is definitely top 5 and no disrespect to the Op but luck shouldn't even be in the discussion. Given Peyton's physical limitations I would only put Rodgers and Brady ahead of Flacco right now. Brees would round out my top 5.

[Gatorman82]

Things vary so much from season to season, for reasons that are often out of the QBs' control. Right now Flacco is in the top three. But what if he loses Boldin? Part of the reason he dominated in the playoffs was because the two of them were in perfect sync out there. What if McKinney is gone or goes back to being a slug? I think that Joe's got the talent to be one of the best, but so do so many guys. How they rank relative to each other will depend on too many factors. I just hope that the Caldwell/Flacco combination continues to produce a dominant offense. That was a fine thing to watch.

[Spider Webb]

1. Rodgers
2. Flacco
3. Brady
4. Eli
5. Brees

I think the better question is, QBs most likely to go furtherst in next years playoffs.

[scbgirlxo]

Why Luck in the top 5 and ahead of Joe though? Not necessary criticizing just wondering your thought process on it.

[alienrace]

Luck doesn't belong in the top 10, much less the top 5 until he actually proves it. Same goes for RGIII, Wilson, Kap, and especially Newton, who regressed significantly in 2012.

Not sure how Brady could be ahead of Flacco, as Flacco has outplayed the guy how many times now? It's getting borderline embarassing for Brady.

Peyton's body is betraying him, and while he's still efficient, he's no longer the threat he once was.

Ben's body is breaking down, and I think he has also lost his mental edge a bit.

Right now, my list would be:

1. Rodgers
2. Flacco
3. Brees
4. Eli Manning
5. Brady

[darb72]

Rodgers
Flacco
Eli
everybody else

Luck, RGIII, Kapernick, and Wilson are still way to young.
Peyton's arm is shot.
Brees can't win outside of a dome.
Brady can't beat good teams since they got caught cheating.

[Jayc00]

I stopped reading at Luck.

[leachisabeast]

My current top ten assuming everyone's healthy.

1. Aaron Rogers
2. Drew Brees
3. Tom Brady
4. Peyton Manning
5. Eli Manning
6. Joe Flacco
7. Ben Roethlisberger
8. Matt Ryan
9. Collin Kaepernick
10. RGIII

Wilson, and Luck just miss out, Luck landed 12th, Wilson landed 11th. I think Lucks slightly overrated at this point, but I think he'll be better than both RG3 and Wilson in time.

I base my list heavily on play off experience/games won, and how long they've been in the league winning games. The top 7 have all won SBs, pretty crazy when you think of it. I wont get carried away yet with the likes of RGIII having a very good rookie year, because they can come back and have an average year, as seen with Cam Newton. For now, I think Kaepernick and RGIII will be very good, but I'm not yet sold on their long term health or play. I think Andrew Luck and Russell Wilson will both overtake them eventually, because they both look to pass the ball first EVERY TIME in the pocket. No matter how good RGIII or Kaepernick are at throwing, they are always going to try and run and will eventually pay for that.

[Ravenblue]

It's too hard to rank QB's numerically as there are too many variables at different times, such as dome's, type of offence, easy divisions, weapons etcs. I prefer to look at QB ranking in form of tiers, which are generally in no particular order-

Tier 1- Have shown consistency under different circumstances over a period of a at least a few years.
Peyton
Brady
Brees
Rodgers

Tier 2- For whatever reason have yet to show true consistency over a long period of time, or have one or 2 clear weaknesses. All have clear Tier 1 potential.
Flacco (I would actually put him at the top of this tier for various reasons, and as we all know Cameron has held him back in the past)
Roethlisberger
Eli
Ryan

Tier 3- Have put up good stats but lack too much consistency and don't seem to be at their best in the biggest games.
Romo
Cutler
Schaub
Rivers
Vick
Stafford
Dalton (wanted to put him tier 4 as he's yet to really convince me but he has shown promise in helping the Bengals to playoffs in his first 2 seasons.)

Tier 4- Started in the league long enough to show us that they probably don't have what it takes to be long term starters without major improvement, and their team may need to evaluate where they stand.
Newton (has talent but a serious attitute problem that he needs to resolve, if he does he could have tier 2 potential)
Palmer (would have obviously been higher a few years ago, but he has let age get to him in a way the older QB's above him haven't)
Freeman
Sanchez
Kolb
Bradford (Hard to honestly say as he plays behind a revolving door and might as well have me to throw to)
Ponder
Locker
Cassell
Gabbert
Fitzpatrick

I purposely haven't tiered the rookie QB's (and seriously thought about holding off the Year 2 QB's, but decided to throw them in for a wider picture) as it's too early to say- Look at Newton's decline since last year. I personally think Luck will one day be tier 1, but the others all have to prove they can sustain the running and throwing style. For what it's worth, I wouldn't bet against them.

This is all very subjective but to me makes more sense than a straight 1-32 ranking. If we were doing a redraft (as seems to be the latest fashion) however, the only guy I would take over Flacco would be Rodgers, as he is the only one in the top tier not looking down the barrel agewise.

[wickedsolo]

So...(not counting the Bengas game in week 16...because the starters were pulled)...Flacco dominated the Giants, Colts, Broncos, Patriots, and the 49ers...

5 games, playoffs, tough environments, toughest D's in the NFL...that's not consistent enough? Come on.

Also, I find it kind of funny that some are ranking Eli over Flacco. Flacco is better than Eli. You want to talking about inconsistency...sheesh...look at Eli's season.

[RavenScallywag]

Also, I find it kind of funny that some are ranking Eli over Flacco. Flacco is better than Eli. You want to talking about inconsistency...sheesh...look at Eli's season.

I think that is why we need to hold our breath a bit on Flacco...Last year, Eli went out and said he thought he was in the Tom Brady class of QBs. He got roasted for it, but he took his team to the Super Bowl and won the Super Bowl MVP, for the 2nd time. And look where he was this year. Now, granted, he's almost always had worse INT numbers than Joe did, but he had a step back season, when everyone in New York was probably thinking "Eli just went out and proved he was good enough to be a Super Bowl MVP AGAIN, he's clearly in the elite class now".

So while clearly Flacco is ahead of Eli RIGHT NOW, it could flip flop in a season.

[srobert96]

1. Brady
2. Manning
3. Rodgers
4. Brees
5. Luck (for next year)
6. Flacco?

Don't agree with Luck. Let's see how he does next year without Arians. I would probably put Rodgers, Brees and Brady. I think Manning's body is starting to fail him. I think Brady is starting to deteriorate a bit as well. I think the years of abuse on Ben's body are taking it's toll on his body. If you look at stats Joe has been better through their first 5 years. Ben had one great year where he threw for 32 TDs. The big reason why Ben was always considered elite is he would win games and had two Super Bowls.

Through 5 year comparison
Ben 101 TDs 69 Ints
Joe 102 TDs 56 Ints

I am using a bit of a double standard in evaluation QBs. I think Flacco has had a ton of potential that has been held back by Cam. I am projecting that Caldwell will do away with the full back and open the offense up more. He will give Joe more easy passes that will allow him to be more consistent. I am guessing that Joe goes for 4k and 30+ TDs this year.