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    Ed Reed ~~ Stay or Go? (Merged)



    I know this will be blasphemy to many of you. I hate having to say it myself. Ed Reed has long been one of my favorite Ravens. I have his jersey. He's going to Canton five years after he retires. He's one of the three best free safeties in NFL history by anyone's reckoning.

    But if the Ravens bring him back, they will be making a mistake.

    I could make a fine case for Ed Reed. I could start off talking about how Brady and Manning avoided the middle of the field because of the risk that Reed would make them look foolish. I could continue by talking about how his quiet leadership is a great example to the younger defensive backs, that he's been able to help keep a defense loaded with talent and personality from coming off the rails at times. I could even tell you how we've got nothing worthwhile behind him and we'll suffer if we let him walk... especially to a rival like the Pats.

    But none of that would be enough.

    Ed Reed is going to cost us significant money to re-sign. Probably not the $7m he got last season, but he's at the end stage of his career. He doesn't need or want long-term security or contract numbers he won't actually see. He wants to get paid now, while he still can. And he wants to linger long enough to set or approach the all-time interceptions record. I hope he gets there, in some other uniform.

    Ed Reed isn't going to cost us money, Ed Reed is going to cost us players. Maybe it's Boldin, maybe Jacoby, maybe Leach, maybe Ellerbe, maybe McKinnie or some free agent left tackle. I don't know how it's all going to play out. But rest assured that if we pony up even $3-5m for the next few years to keep him in purple, some important younger piece of the puzzle is going to be sent elsewhere.

    And we've all seen what no one really wants to admit. Ed Reed at 34 is a step slower. He's not quite able to close and make plays like he used to. He can't be isolated as the single high safety and still get there on sideline deep balls like he could 6-8 years ago. And he doesn't tackle, not any more, not after the neck and shoulder injuries. He's getting old. None of this is going to improve. The young QBs don't fear him, they know him only by reputation. And eventually the Bradys and Mannings of the NFL are going to realize it too, and start to take their shots over the middle again. Maybe he'll get a few picks. But he'll also be beat for some scores too, scores that a younger Reed wouldn't have permitted.

    What if he finds there's no market out there, and is willing to come back for close to minimum money? It won't happen, but even if it did, why would he? Maybe he decides the interception record isn't worth dragging himself through a few more years for almost nothing, walks out on top alongside Ray. Worse, maybe he checks out a bit, decides he's done enough, that if someone's not going to pay him what he thinks he's worth, he's only going to give them as much as they paid for. Hey, he's human. And proud. He has nothing left to prove to anyone.

    There's going to come a time, soon, where Ed Reed has to be put on the bench in favor of a younger player. Do we need to see that happen here, in Baltimore? I say we don't.

    Maybe the 2013 Ed Reed will have a few highlight reel plays, prove me wrong. But history has shown across the NFL that it's better to cut ties with a player a year too soon than a year too late. Ed's got his ring. He's done all he needs to do to be a Baltimore legend forever. Let's remember him as the guy who made the pick in the Super Bowl to help us win our second trophy... and not the guy he'll become, the guy some team's fan base looks at and thinks, "we paid how much money for this?"

    Some day Ed's going to be in our Ring of Honor, and in Canton, and maybe even get his jersey retired. But Super Bowl XLVII should be his last game as a Raven. I hope Ozzie and company see that too, and don't let emotion and history get in the way of this decision. As always, I trust them to do the right thing here. Shake Ed's hand, thank him for his many wonderful years here, and wish him the best of luck as his career winds down in another uniform.




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    Re: I'll come right out and say it: I don't want Ed Reed back

    So who plays FS next year?




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    Re: I'll come right out and say it: I don't want Ed Reed back

    Quote Originally Posted by ballhawk View Post
    So who plays FS next year?
    Christian Thompson. A new draft pick. The next Bernard Pollard (e.g. a low-cost young free agent from another team). Take your pick. It will be someone cheaper or younger than Reed, preferably both. And in 2013 that player might not play as well as Reed will, but long-term we'll be better off by far, and it will let us keep some other player that we might have had to cut otherwise.




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    Re: I'll come right out and say it: I don't want Ed Reed back

    Isn't Thompson more of a strong safety?




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    Re: I'll come right out and say it: I don't want Ed Reed back

    I would have an open competition. James Ihedigbo vs. Draftee vs. Potential FA signing.
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    Re: I'll come right out and say it: I don't want Ed Reed back

    Ok. Thanks for you're input.




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    Re: I'll come right out and say it: I don't want Ed Reed back

    FWIW, I think Gab's post makes sense, although I'd be happy to see Reed back as a Raven for "the right price".

    What I find sobering (for lack of a better word) is that Reed could potentially really hurt himself physically if his shoulder (and I guess other parts) are saying, "It's time."

    I also recall when Johnny Unitas was unceremoniously shipped off to San Diego. That was a sad time for any BALTIMORE Colts fan, although it was apparent that Unitas was not only past his prime, but perhaps would have been wise to hang up his boots and retire in a more positive light. Not that he couldn't play football anymore, but as a fan then as now, I would have preferred to see him "go out on top", notwithstanding the nonsense that Irsay Sr. (and Joe Thomas to a degree) were unfolding. Similarly, if I had my druthers, I'd like to see Reed say, "Thanks for the memories, Baltimore, but my time is done and I'm goin' fishin'!"




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    Re: I'll come right out and say it: I don't want Ed Reed back

    Quote Originally Posted by ballhawk View Post
    So who plays FS next year?
    With the 32nd pick in the 2013 Draft, the Baltimore Ravens select... Matt Elam, Safety, University of Florida.




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    Re: I'll come right out and say it: I don't want Ed Reed back

    Quote Originally Posted by ballhawk View Post
    So who plays FS next year?
    Convert Jimmy Smith to FS. Pollard is the other safety. Webb and Williams the CB's.




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    Re: I'll come right out and say it: I don't want Ed Reed back

    I want him back but only if his contract doesn't hamstring us.

    The test will be if Harbs and Ozzie wants him back. If they do, that's good enough for me.


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    Re: I'll come right out and say it: I don't want Ed Reed back

    Quote Originally Posted by camdenyard View Post
    I want him back but only if his contract doesn't hamstring us.

    The test will be if Harbs and Ozzie wants him back. If they do, that's good enough for me.




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    Re: I'll come right out and say it: I don't want Ed Reed back

    Love Ed like most of you. Favorite player to ever play for the Ravens (Ogden close and Ray was a little much for me at times) but I agree as well. I think anyone who watched Reed this season could see his limitations when it comes to tackling or any physical contact. Every instance of contact resulted in him crumpled to the ground; it was uncomfortable to watch at times. Love the guy but I hope he hangs them up.




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