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  1. #49

    Re: Strategy for first round pick.



    Quote Originally Posted by alien bird View Post
    This is a sticky wicket. If the Ravens trade from 32 to say 23 to get that guy, it would cost them (according to the draft value chart) their 3rd and 4th round picks. Sure, they have eleven, but 4 of them can't be traded, so trading too many for one move is going to negate the ability to move around in the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th rounds - especially if you've just traded your 3rd and 4th rounder. Exactly where are they going to move then? They would be left with waiting for a guy to fall into their laps, instead of having the ability to move up a couple of spots to get the guy they want.

    Those 3rd and 4th rounders are crucial. Just look at the last four drafts: Webb, Pitta, Dickson, Reid, Doss, Pierce, Gradkowski, Thompson. There are some impact players on that list.
    I wasn't specifically talkingabotu trading up in the first, as much as the general thought of trading up for the guy you like rather then getting stuck with what's left. IF we are sitting at 32 and there are a handful of guys at need positions of relatively similar value then trading back a few spots isn't a terrible idea, and could possibly allow us NE like freedom to trade up to select the next 3 or 4 players we are targeting as they come into value positions.




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    Re: Strategy for first round pick.

    Quote Originally Posted by jonboy79 View Post
    Sure, but the exclusive tag is currently slated to be $20.6m and will decrease if Tom, Big Ben, Stafford, and Bradford restructure prior to 1 week before the draft, when it is officially calculated. With the moves that have been made currently, AND assuming Bobbie Williams is cut and ALL RFA's get tendered, and nothing else, the $14.6 puts us over the cap. No chance of making moves unless they extend/restructure/cut Boldin,JOnes, Leach, Ngata or Suggs.
    Of course we are going to make roster moves though. Even when Flacco is re-signed, I expect the Ravens to cut some players and extend some contracts and MAYBE restructure Suggs' contract.




  3. #51

    Re: Strategy for first round pick.

    Quote Originally Posted by leachisabeast View Post
    Of course we are going to make roster moves though. Even when Flacco is re-signed, I expect the Ravens to cut some players and extend some contracts and MAYBE restructure Suggs' contract.


    It's much easier to do so after Joe is doen and the waters are less muddy.




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    Re: Strategy for first round pick.

    Quote Originally Posted by jonboy79 View Post
    It's much easier to do so after Joe is doen and the waters are less muddy.
    This is true




  5. #53

    Re: Strategy for first round pick.

    I don't see them trading up more than a few spots at most in the 1st. And the only way that happens is if Lane Johnson falls, which is unlikely. If they can't re-sign McKinnie, I think they'd be just as comfortable trading back and drafting a guy like Fluker, Watson, or Brennan Williams to play RT and starting Oher at LT.
    DT, ILB & S have enough positional depth in the draft that they can pick up a starter in rounds 2-4, where they can use later picks to move around.




  6. #54

    Re: Strategy for first round pick.

    Quote Originally Posted by OhThePossibilities View Post
    I don't see them trading up more than a few spots at most in the 1st. And the only way that happens is if Lane Johnson falls, which is unlikely. If they can't re-sign McKinnie, I think they'd be just as comfortable trading back and drafting a guy like Fluker, Watson, or Brennan Williams to play RT and starting Oher at LT.
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    I think I just vomitted in my mouth. Anybody but Oher... that's my campaign for the offseason.




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    Re: Strategy for first round pick.

    Quote Originally Posted by jonboy79 View Post
    I wasn't specifically talkingabotu trading up in the first, as much as the general thought of trading up for the guy you like rather then getting stuck with what's left. IF we are sitting at 32 and there are a handful of guys at need positions of relatively similar value then trading back a few spots isn't a terrible idea, and could possibly allow us NE like freedom to trade up to select the next 3 or 4 players we are targeting as they come into value positions.
    I agree, and that is why it's such an unknown. I'm just glad I'm the guy who can sit on the boards and yap about it, rather than the guy who has his job on the line making those calls.




  8. #56

    Re: Strategy for first round pick.

    Quote Originally Posted by jonboy79 View Post
    I think I just vomitted in my mouth. Anybody but Oher... that's my campaign for the offseason.
    Well they aren't getting any of the top 3 LTs in the draft. And they may not have the money to get a guy in FA or McKinnie.

    The FO doesn't have a problem with Oher at LT if need be. And with KO at LG, Flacco should have room to step up.




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    Re: Strategy for first round pick.

    Quote Originally Posted by jonboy79 View Post
    I think I just vomitted in my mouth. Anybody but Oher... that's my campaign for the offseason.
    King Dunlap would be nice in the event that McKinnie isn't re-signed.




  10. #58

    Re: Strategy for first round pick.

    Quote Originally Posted by OhThePossibilities View Post
    Well they aren't getting any of the top 3 LTs in the draft. And they may not have the money to get a guy in FA or McKinnie.

    The FO doesn't have a problem with Oher at LT if need be. And with KO at LG, Flacco should have room to step up.
    still vomitting. Oher was amongst the worst handful of LT's that started a majority of their teams games this past year. I think I'd rather throw an unready Mid round pick into the fire, at least he hasn't proven he CAN'T play at an acceptable level.




  11. #59

    Re: Strategy for first round pick.

    Quote Originally Posted by leachisabeast View Post
    King Dunlap would be nice in the event that McKinnie isn't re-signed.
    exactly... almost ANYONE but Oher for LT... Not much exaggerration in that post. I don't even reallythink Oher is that great at Rt since his rookei year. I hope someone offers him LT money after this year...




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