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**LukeDaniel** · 02-25-2013, 08:16 AM

What about Ricky Wagner from Wisconsin? I've seen such varying opinions on him. Some of the draft sights I saw have him as a mid-to-late 2nd rounder and think he can play an adequate/above average LT in the NFL. Others have him as a 3rd-4th rounder and as a RT only.

**bmorecareful** · 02-25-2013, 08:45 AM

Originally Posted by LukeDaniel

What about Ricky Wagner from Wisconsin? I've seen such varying opinions on him. Some of the draft sights I saw have him as a mid-to-late 2nd rounder and think he can play an adequate/above average LT in the NFL. Others have him as a 3rd-4th rounder and as a RT only.

I don't think his college tape is very impressive and he had a very bad Senior Bowl week. That led me to believe he was a RT prospect only and unworthy of higher than a 3rd or 4th. His measurables don't wow you but they're acceptable apart from the bench press, 6'6 308 34" arms, 5.17 40 w/1.77 split, 20 BP reps. He looked okay in the field work. He's just "meh" to me.

He's one of those guys IMO that has solid technique and major athletic limitations. If I were an NFL talent evaluator and could get a feel for his work ethic and intelligence those would be the characteristics that would really sway me to be interested or to pass. There are plenty of guys like him that got passed over for better athletes, yet proved to be better pro's, so I'm always wary to write a guy off. At this point I have him pegged basically as a swing tackle who's better at RT but could play LT in a pinch. Lean more toward 3rd-4th.

**Raveninwoodlawn** · 02-25-2013, 08:47 AM

Originally Posted by LukeDaniel

What about Ricky Wagner from Wisconsin? I've seen such varying opinions on him. Some of the draft sights I saw have him as a mid-to-late 2nd rounder and think he can play an adequate/above average LT in the NFL. Others have him as a 3rd-4th rounder and as a RT only.

Yeah, I don't think he is a LT at all.

**leachisabeast** · 02-25-2013, 10:28 AM

DJ Fluker has like 37 inch arms, the guy is a monster. I have him now going to the bears though.

**bmorecareful** · 02-25-2013, 10:52 AM

Originally Posted by leachisabeast

DJ Fluker has like 37 inch arms, the guy is a monster. I have him now going to the bears though.

He looked terrible in the drills. He's got plenty of strength and toughness but his foot speed and overall quickness is extremely bad. He's more of a throwback type of mauling RT, if you plug him in as the day 1 starter your QB had better get good protection everywhere else. Until he drops some weight and gets coached up to be quicker rushers are going to be coming past Fluker all day and all night.

I personally would never spend a 1st round pick on a RT only who can't handle speed on the edge. Wait, that sounds vaguely familiar...

**leachisabeast** · 02-25-2013, 10:54 AM

Originally Posted by bmorecareful

He looked terrible in the drills. He's got plenty of strength and toughness but his foot speed and overall quickness is extremely bad. He's more of a throwback type of mauling RT, if you plug him in as the day 1 starter your QB had better get good protection everywhere else. Until he drops some weight and gets coached up to be quicker rushers are going to be coming past Fluker all day and all night.

I personally would never spend a 1st round pick on a RT only who can't handle speed on the edge. Wait, that sounds vaguely familiar...

Didn't watch the drills personally. Doesn't really surprise me, but DJ Fluker is a guard at the next level, he can become an all pro there IMO. And you should take a guard or a RT in the first round if you know he's going to improve your Oline. Not everyone can be superstars at LT.