All Things Draft:

**runrayrun27** · 03-04-2013, 06:38 PM

Originally Posted by arnie_uk

Read up on joe staley. Small school, shined east west shrine game, ran a 4.7 40 went pick 28 I think, now seen as one of the top left tackles in the game

Great comparison

**arnie_uk** · 03-04-2013, 06:50 PM

And I'd happily take staley even if it takes a couple years

**wickedsolo** · 03-04-2013, 08:06 PM

Originally Posted by arnie_uk

Read up on joe staley. Small school, shined east west shrine game, ran a 4.7 40 went pick 28 I think, now seen as one of the top left tackles in the game

Central Michigan is a bit different than Arkansas-Pinebluff...

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**bmore finest** · 03-05-2013, 12:41 AM

I am full blown on the Armstead pick. IMO I think this kid is a Raven. Not sure where he ranks and all, but a LT that can move like him and Smart, I would pick him at 32.
I'm on the bandwagon!!

**leachisabeast** · 03-05-2013, 01:06 AM

I'm a little concerned about Armsteads size and arm length, that's the main thing that's holding me back from fully joining this new bandwagon.

**leachisabeast** · 03-05-2013, 02:10 AM

Joe Kruger looks better than his brother lol

**runrayrun27** · 03-05-2013, 09:05 AM

Originally Posted by leachisabeast

I'm a little concerned about Armsteads size and arm length, that's the main thing that's holding me back from fully joining this new bandwagon.

34 inches isn't favourable, but I think he makes up for it with his quick feet. His feet move like a hiccup and he shuffles quite well. They balance out IMO

**bmore finest** · 03-05-2013, 12:34 PM

Question, last training camp we had a fellow named Connell. I think on PS now. Is he a tackle or just depth for guard? I know the coaches really liked him.

**BigPlayReceiver** · 03-05-2013, 01:29 PM

Originally Posted by bmore finest

Question, last training camp we had a fellow named Connell. I think on PS now. Is he a tackle or just depth for guard? I know the coaches really liked him.

Jack Cornell. Depth for both G and T. Played mostly G in college, but played some T during 2012 camp.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Cornell

http://articles.baltimoresun.com/201...elechi-osemele

**RavenScallywag** · 03-05-2013, 03:37 PM

He had a pretty epic beard in the SB run.

**Stealthbirds80** · 03-05-2013, 07:52 PM

I like Hankins or Jenkins for the 1st pick at DT/NT. If the heavens aligned meaning every team took the "duh" pill before the draft, I would love Shariff Floyd, but no chance there.

Outside of that position, I could see Jarvis Jones scaring a lot of teams off, but I see the Steelers taking him for some reason.

Tavon Austin would be a good hometown pick and would be a steal at 32, but someone jumps up before he would get to our slot.

Tackles I think will not be picked at #32. We go into FA before we pick up a rookie tackle to start IMO unless it's one of the top three Joekel, Fischer, or Lane Johnson. I think Fluker is a RT in the league.

This is the toughest draft ever in my eyes and I think that a lot of teams screw their drafts, but not my Ravens. This draft is so muddied with talent, but also very flawed prospects. Thank heavens we don't need a QB.

**BigPlayReceiver** · 03-06-2013, 06:04 AM

With my eyes Clemson's Hopkins physically looks like Houshmandzadeh.
Hopkins hands >> Housh's (who was mostly a body catcher)

**wickedsolo** · 03-06-2013, 06:38 AM

Originally Posted by BigPlayReceiver

With my eyes Clemson's Hopkins physically looks like Houshmandzadeh.
Hopkins hands >> Housh's (who was mostly a body catcher)

Well, at one point TJ Whosyourmama was one of the best possession receivers in the NFL. I actually think he made Chad Johnson better.

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**bmorecareful** · 03-06-2013, 07:31 AM

Originally Posted by BigPlayReceiver

With my eyes Clemson's Hopkins physically looks like Houshmandzadeh.
Hopkins hands >> Housh's (who was mostly a body catcher)

When Doss was coming out of college I evaluated him as a similar prospect to Houshmandzadeh. Taller, long-limbed, thin receivers with sub-par straight-line speed and underwhelming "quicks" but good body control and catching radius to serve as a possession receiver. At their best, both of them can find the hole in the zone, make the catch, and get a little YAC.

I think Hopkins is a much better prospect than either of them and more Roddy White than TJ. I was surprised by his 214lbs weight-in at the Combine--that's an extremely solid build for a 6'1 WR, but he doesn't have an ounce of fat on him. He plays faster than his 4.57 on tape.

The Ravens need to walk away from this draft with a legit outside-the-numbers receiver, unless they feel a miracle can happen and Streeter is going to become that guy (I wouldn't bet on it.)

**wickedsolo** · 03-06-2013, 07:50 AM

Originally Posted by bmorecareful

When Doss was coming out of college I evaluated him as a similar prospect to Houshmandzadeh. Taller, long-limbed, thin receivers with sub-par straight-line speed and underwhelming "quicks" but good body control and catching radius to serve as a possession receiver. At their best, both of them can find the hole in the zone, make the catch, and get a little YAC.

I think Hopkins is a much better prospect than either of them and more Roddy White than TJ. I was surprised by his 214lbs weight-in at the Combine--that's an extremely solid build for a 6'1 WR, but he doesn't have an ounce of fat on him. He plays faster than his 4.57 on tape.

The Ravens need to walk away from this draft with a legit outside-the-numbers receiver, unless they feel a miracle can happen and Streeter is going to become that guy (I wouldn't bet on it.)

Agreed that he is more of a deep threat than Housh ever was.

I really think Hakeem Nicks is a good comparison. Similar build, great hands, good route runner, tough to bring down, and deceptive quickness.

Justin Hunter might be that guy. I also like Da'Rick Rogers a lot. He isn't a speedster, but his size and separation ability make him intriguing.

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**BigPlayReceiver** · 03-06-2013, 09:36 AM

Originally Posted by wickedsolo

Well, at one point TJ Whosyourmama was one of the best possession receivers in the NFL. I actually think he made Chad Johnson better.

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I agree with both. I wasn't disparaging Hopkins, btw. That's just who he reminds me of with the eyeball test.

**leachisabeast** · 03-06-2013, 09:38 AM

Walter football has us taking Damontre Moore at 32 now. That would be some pick. Before the combine, you'd see him going in the top 5 in almost every mock draft.

**wickedsolo** · 03-06-2013, 09:48 AM

Originally Posted by leachisabeast

Walter football has us taking Damontre Moore at 32 now. That would be some pick. Before the combine, you'd see him going in the top 5 in almost every mock draft.

There is no way in hell 31 other GM's discount multiple successful years of him being a pass rusher (in a 4-3 and a 3-4) because of a poor combine outing.

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**wickedsolo** · 03-06-2013, 09:48 AM

Originally Posted by BigPlayReceiver

I agree with both. I wasn't disparaging Hopkins, btw. That's just who he reminds me of with the eyeball test.

I didnt think you were.

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**leachisabeast** · 03-06-2013, 09:57 AM

Originally Posted by wickedsolo

There is no way in hell 31 other GM's discount multiple successful years of him being a pass rusher (in a 4-3 and a 3-4) because of a poor combine outing.

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It was his interviews man. Sources say he was terrible in them. I agree, I doubt he'll be there, but at least we have a realistic shot at getting a top 5 pure talent, could be a Terrell Suggs type pick.