Bad Timing, Good Guy

**HoustonRaven** · 03-05-2013, 02:31 PM

Originally Posted by Losac

I doubt OP is saying Heap should be given a ring for 2012 season. I think he's just saying it's a shame he couldn't have gotten a ring during his time here based on how important he was to the team for a decade.

I agree, and also think it's a shame Mason didn't get one.

Originally Posted by BcRaven

You're right, but my verbiage stinks. I did not mean the Ravens should give him a Super Bowl ring...I meant that he was unlucky to not have been on a championship team during his years in Baltimore.
ROH, yes. Sorry for the mis-phrasing... Bc

Originally Posted by BcRaven

Losac, thank you for interpreting my original post correctly.., Bc

My mistake. I see now where I read that wrong.

**esmd** · 03-05-2013, 02:34 PM

Definitely a shame Heap was gone, same with some others who were mentioned.

**admartian** · 03-05-2013, 02:48 PM

Mason and Heap were the big ones for me.

**RavenScallywag** · 03-05-2013, 03:15 PM

Originally Posted by Losac

Disagree on JJ and Redding. They left voluntarily while chasing the big free agent bucks. Same goes for Bart Scott, Ben Grubbs, Adalius, Zibby.

There's no evidence of this, but I think JJ wasn't given a very high offer or anything. Think Cary Williams this year. We knew we wanted to get younger at OLB, and it came at a time when JJ's contract was up. I don't think he was loving going out to SD, that's just where the money was.

Corey Redding was only here a couple years, JJ was a long time Raven.

**Mike B** · 03-05-2013, 03:23 PM

Originally Posted by BcRaven

Todd Heap had a solid career in Baltimore, but while he was a warrior (taking many hits over the middle), his timing couldn't have been worse. He was drafted in the 1st round the year AFTER the Ravens won Super Bowl XXXV. He was released by the Ravens two years BEFORE we won Super Bowl XLVII. IMO he was a player worthy of a ring. What say you ? ... Bc

Todd was one of my favorite Ravens. He got killed going over the middle time after time, but as you said, was 2 years removed from the SB team.
No SB ring but would love to see Todd retire as a Raven and enter the ROH.

**Coastergenius** · 03-05-2013, 03:45 PM

Originally Posted by Losac

Disagree on JJ and Redding. They left voluntarily while chasing the big free agent bucks. Same goes for Bart Scott, Ben Grubbs, Adalius, Zibby.

I can maybe understand the defensive players, we didn't have a place for them in the defense, and we felt like we could fill the holes with cheaper alternatives, but Ben Grubbs was rediculous. I won't miss a second of sleep worrying about him not getting a ring. We gave him every chance to be a Raven. We offered him a fair contract and really wanted, but he chose a deal that wasn't even that much bigger than ours to be the bounty ravaged Saints.

**mmi16** · 03-05-2013, 04:00 PM

Being on a Super Bowl winning team always has a element of luck be associated with it. Yes, players and coaches all have to be at the top of their game - but it also takes luck to raise the Lombardi.

Some players are great, are on great teams - teams that just ran out of luck before the Lombardi could be competed for or raised.

**Brtnder81** · 03-06-2013, 03:52 AM

Originally Posted by akashicrecorder

If Heap was still here, I wonder how Pitta (and to a lesser extent, Dickson) would have progressed, or if we would even have drafted them. Everything happens for a reason. Heap's not being here enabled the emergence of Pitta, Joe's best friend and favorite target.

They were drafted when Heap was still here and Heap was on the roster for their rookie season and Pitta has said that Heap taught him a lot about how to play TE in the NFL